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  1. pathetic to be honest, had all year to run the 1 (one!) contractual meeting and cant even be bothered to do that.
    8 points
  2. That's why a highlights package would be the best course of action.. Using BSN and the clubs own streams.. ITV could pay them to use their footage which keeps their own production costs minimal... And those having their footage used get credited on screen so hopefully pick up more business... All the best races of the week cherry picked with studio discussion around that weeks racing with a preview of the following week.. Short, sharp coverage, with the odd "live" meeting at play off time..
    7 points
  3. What benefit is that to anybody….more people are likely to attend to see the world champion appear…speedway is for the fans as well
    7 points
  4. Again why do they treat the fans with such contempt? The lack of communication is shocking. The AGM is actually important and newsworthy to supporters. Pretty sure we all look forward to hearing the fallout from the meeting, seeing what the points limits are and the make up of the leagues and rules. We rely on second or even third hand sources for an actual AGM date or “in the knows” on here to leak things, and none of us would have known it had even been postponed if not for Plymouth stating that fact. Why is it all such a closely guarded secret? Would it really hurt them to publish a date for the AGM through the official channels, and update supporters on events like postponements? Not good enough and it hasn’t been for donkeys years.
    7 points
  5. Typically classless from you, you may want to consider that these" forum fannies " probably, unlike you, post money across a turnstile and support Berwick Speedway in a very real way. That, IMO, entitles them to their opinion, even if I disagree with it. As for Jye`s comments, he can say want he wants, though he may want to consider he is slagging off those who go to paying his wages. Sometimes if you have nothing decent to say its best to say nothing and do you talking on the track.
    7 points
  6. At last! The end of a short, drawn out season. Best bit has to be Nikolai Klindt collecting a winners medal and the wooden spoon.
    7 points
  7. Belle Vue fully deserved this championship for 2026. Strongest team by a margin. Nice to see them win at home in front of a full stadium! Fully expect that stadium full every week next year now that City fans will be looking for a new sport to follow 😂
    7 points
  8. For what its worth.............try and get the basics right first, good track preparation, good promotion of the sport through social media , treat the fans as customers not a burden (yes there always the ones who want everything for free), run a tight ship, run on nights which attract the best attendance for your club, start times to be start times. Try and make it economically viable for fans if possible with offers on season tickets etc.
    6 points
  9. And will always be the case whilst team limits are set below what it takes to win a meeting It means season after season averages inflate and eventually if you keep inflating something it reaches the point it goes POP! Team total needs to be at 42 as a basic Below that you weaken the product gradually Raise the limit and over time the quality can rise - so long that quality is available willingly and able
    6 points
  10. And if so, just say that.... Would even give their fund a bit more publicity and urgency to sort, so could bring in some money quickly... No idea why there isn't ever any transparency and engagement with the fans... ie. The very thing that helps keep their hobby surviving in the UK...
    6 points
  11. This should stop testimonials for the riders though (not benefit meetings). When you are declaring yourself as self employed and the clubs get nothing from you moving to another club, then you should give up your right to a testimonial (surely cannot have it both ways).
    6 points
  12. Will Poole retain their top 2 for 2027 of Paul Carrington and Michael Breckon?
    6 points
  13. I'll say a few things just to make my position crystal clear..... 1. I'm not a Poole fan. I've been a Bees fan for a lot of years and our conflicts have been "intense" to say the least. And don't get me onto Poole's track preparation. Its a joke. 2. I watched both legs of the final, supporting Scunthorpe, although they mean very little to me apart from their speedway abilities. 3. I was excited to see the second leg go to a Super Heat. I was particularly impressed by Josh Pickering's understanding of what it takes to win a race where coming first doesn't necessarily win you anything. 4. I saw Zach Cook take a "very tight line" when Josh Pickering let him take over the lead. Did he put both wheels where they shouldn't have been? The evidence (so far) is inconclusive. Yes, that's right, False dawn agrees with the referee and the speedway supporting population of Poole. 5. The SCB clearly said that Zach breached the rules. My conclusion. The SCB ruled on something they didn't need to. They knew before their investigation that the result could not be changed so why do anything? And worse still, why muddy the waters by saying they are 100% certain the rules were breached. And worse still than that, why say the rules were breached without saying how they reached that decision. What evidence do they have that we haven't seen? So, despite my history with Poole, my argument is not with Zach Cook, the club or anyone associated with them. The SCB have many questions to answer and their response to the controversy is silence. I am, first and foremost, a speedway fan. I deserve my sport to be managed better.
    5 points
  14. When reading through some of the comments on the Premiership play-off final I noticed a number of fans' only meeting of the year (or one of very few) was the final. You could see by the crowd number at both meetings it was true. The draw to that meeting though is not the caliber of rider it is the fact that it matters. The teams were actually weaker than the start of the season, no Dan Bewley or Jack Holder. I am not sure if the draw of a top rider name is strong enough anymore. I think fans would rather see their team do well or watch competitive, close exciting racing. Also, the vast majority of the public have no idea who Robert Lambert is. I genuinely think moving to racing on any day of the week and losing those top riders to the Ekstraliga could work. It would cut rider fees costs and allow racing on Friday or Saturday (or Wednesday if you're Poole). I think racing and the overall league would be much more competitive if all teams can truly afford to run, therefore making each meeting matter more. If the only teams that can make profits are high championship ones why don't we make that the level of the premiership? The new championship would be a combination of lower championship riders and national league riders. Nearly all teams could afford and would want to be in the premiership then so we could bring back relegation/promotion.
    5 points
  15. Doubling up/down should be for young Brits to develop, not for journeymen to top up their pensions. Just like guests its got completely out of hand. Many supporters want their team to have its own identity which means riders who aren't popping up elsewhere in the UK on any given night.
    5 points
  16. is this the most ridiculous post ive ever seen?
    5 points
  17. Well bringing on 2 of the best GB teenagers isn't too bad......
    5 points
  18. Don't think some of these past posts do the comets any good, if you have dirty laundry do it in private not over the forum 🤔
    5 points
  19. I’m not sure why people are so impatient? The league starts next April so does it really matter if the AGM is in November, December, January, February? If the wait means the return/reopening of a couple of tracks and a television deal then it’s worth the wait? If that also allows Plymouth some more time to get their air fence fund complete so they can run then that’s another good thing. Surely we all want as many tracks as possible running next season?
    5 points
  20. The quote from Howe :- "I was in the pits watching it on the screen and was pretty confident that Zach Cook may have left the track" ... Well that obviously left the the SCB no choice then. A 'definitely maybe' is clearly a FACT! Let's just shut up & move on now. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. Apparently according to the Star, 2 referees with over 20 years experience supported Carrington's conclusion and how could they not? To exclude Cook we need to see evidence that the outer edge of his back wheel was over the inner edge of the white line. In the view from the outside, the back wheel is obscured by Pickering. The view from the back only shows the inside of the wheel, with the white line obscured. We've seen no image to show that the outside of the wheel was over the inside of the line. The SCB statement is therefore a farce, unless they have evidence that wasn't available to the referee.
    5 points
  21. For once, after all these years, maybe just make the team average match the team that finishes top of the table, pre play offs.. No dumbing down, let the team at the top keep the same riders if they want, and let the rest have room to improve... It is just another daft self inflicted "Speedway Anomaly" that means a team that is successful, who have built an affinity with fans, then gets broken up... Kids in particular love having heroes so if you want them to get engaged (which means an adult paying to get in), then stop peeing about with teams having to lose often one of their best, therefore most popular, riders.. Create an aspirational level to attain by having to "beat the best" the following season... I remember 93 when the Aces won the league and the following season they were nowhere near the same team given the changes.. In every sport the best should be the benchmark for others to try and better, but not by weakening the best..
    5 points
  22. Well done Belle Vue but I’m sure most people are glad to see the back of that season totally boring Title winners obvious from early on 2 under strength sides in Ipswich and Northampton Leicester weaker than last season Sheffield losing arguably the leagues top rider … and unfortunately in their case too late to get Doyle The 2025 season was so close and 4 teams that could have won it This season take out Doyle Emil Fricke and Holder from 3 of those teams and the other side kept all theirs was obvious where the league would go Let’s hope 2027 is more competitive
    5 points
  23. Being based in Marylebone I have to plan travel with care but Friday night at Belle Vue followed by Saturday at Redcar and a slow train journey home on Sunday seams the ideal way to end the season
    5 points
  24. But it isn't a statement of fact. And that is the issue .. No "factual" evidence has been seen or published, therefore the SCB shouldn't have come out saying that the rules were breached as, clearly so far, there is zero evidence to prove that "fact"... The ref made his decision based on the (inconclusive) evidence that showed that Cook "could" have ridden the white line and not crossed it.. Using the evidence available to him, he made the only decision he could, and should have... The SCB statement is, apart from how poorly written it is, quite baffling, and subjective, so not factual, and leaves both Pooles' victory, and the ref hanging out to dry somewhat...
    5 points
  25. What a farce speedway will never lose its Micky mouse image. Wonder if the roles we reversed the ref would have made the same decision .The whole thing as left speedway looking very second rate and not looking like a professional sport . Just my opinion
    5 points
  26. Don’t try and run before you can walk! Sort out the product first then worry about trying to get TV deals. Put the current product out on mainstream TV and all you will do is confirm the publics perception that first out of the start always wins and if you go you get covered in dust.
    4 points
  27. I’ve just read it. Apparently everyone is now happy that the rule is that, if a rider’s wheels CROSS the white line, then that would normally lead to disqualification. And, despite multiple views from photographers and videographers, there is no evidence that Cook CROSSED the white line. Well, that’s everyone expect the BSPL chairman who is making up his own rule that even touching the line should lead to disqualification. Where has this man been? I’m sure many people, like me, have watched many slow motion replays where there’s been dust coming from a back wheel but zooming in has shown the tyre on the line not over it. Indeed, wasn’t that Darcy Ward’s favoured method of passing? The Poole bashers have been out in force on this one but the Poole management, unlike too many others, have done the right thing by not adding fuel to this unnecessary fire. I am convinced that, had it been Josh Pickering not Zach Cook whose wheel had gone on to the line, nothing would have been said. The statement from Neil Vatcher declines to say who wrote the SCB comment which is disappointing - the SCB should have manned up on this, especially as they so quickly threw Paul Carrington under the proverbial bus. At the end of the day, Poole are worthy champions having out-ridden everyone all season and provided some exciting meetings on their travels. And Scunthorpe are unexpectedly for many, me included, runners up. It’s over, folks, so on to 2027.
    4 points
  28. Surely Jody Scott would be top of the list for bringing back. I've not seen anything yet about whether a team can or can't have 2 riders over 8 (or whatever average) for 2027. So I'm going to guess Klindt and Wright would both be wanted back. If not, then maybe Ace Pijper as I expect him to be back. Redcar seem to be about the only team that someone hasn't claimed to have already signed Tate Zischke, so maybe I should start that rumour 🤣
    4 points
  29. It is quite baffling why some would want what appears to be one of the few financially successful clubs to rip up their business plan and operating model to "do something different"... When that "something different" clearly wasn't working back when there were more teams in the top tier, and the sport appeared more stable and had more going for it, than it currently does... If I were running Poole I would expect a lot of incentives to move into the top tier to ensure my balance sheet wasn't negatively impacted, and was protected, and, if I didn't get them, then I would be quite happy to stay where I was...
    4 points
  30. The greater good is surely about clubs being financially sound no matter what level they operate at. Poole have done and won the Elite/Premiership for several seasons eventually losing money and fans. Putting themselves at financial risk simply to make up the numbers in a smaller league does not make good business sense. And Poole is a business for the Fords not a hobby!!
    4 points
  31. I don't think any speedway fan has an issue with waiting, especially if it means giving tracks the best possible chance. The issue has never been about that, it's always about communication. If they announced the AGM was being delayed because of things in the pipeline, and kept people abreast (as much as they realistically can), I bet most fans would be pretty satisfied. They don't though, and never have.
    4 points
  32. Tom is one of those riders that benefits from a busy schedule and riding regularly. Some said he took on too much a couple of seasons ago, but that works for him. When rides dried up abroad this year, his calendar suddenly looked very sparse and that didn’t help him regain his form. His double leg break last winter must also have been a factor, so was him being thrust in to a number 1 berth at Ipswich because of the lateness of the takeover. Everything cobbled together created a doom loop for the lad and he never really got going. I’m 100% convinced though that next year will see a return to form due to these factors no longer being an issue. His average now in the top flight is an attractive one that will see him out of the pressure heat leader positions for somebody who will now benefit from his poor season. Regular Championship fixtures keeping him busy will also benefit him hugely. IF Oxford have secured his services, then they’ve pulled off the Championship signing of the winter and IMO will have the League’s top man in their side.
    4 points
  33. 3rd visit to Redcar this year from worky, yet again delays for track work, not good enough as been like this every visit, enjoyed the meeting, hope doyle and Theo are ok after big offs, both walked away thankfully. The race with bomber and klindt was epic, Charlie southwick a good 2 points prospect, apparently travels from Dorset to ride Speedway wherever he can, just hope that the south coast club who doesn't promote junior speedway, jumps in with ££s to sign him, deserves to go to a club that's helps juniors out
    4 points
  34. This Jenkins chap you Pirates are all including in your teams? Is he the same Jenkins that is staying at Berwick in 2027?
    4 points
  35. Let's not forget he had a nasty double leg break when racing in USA last winter. Probably partly explains his poor initial form at Ipswich?!
    4 points
  36. Me and my lad met up last night with eight others who also had only attended the PCMT and the GP's . All had the very same reasons for our non attendance... In no specific order .. We mentioned the lack of atmosphere at the run of the mill meetings due to the half full stadium... The lack of any threat to the Aces qualifying which renders the qualifiers easy to miss . Monday nights not great for many to attend... So few teams means zero variety... Jason Doyle riding for Sheffield to help them qualify and Max Fricke sabotaging Kings Lynn's chances by riding in the qualifiers for Sheffield were also mentioned, as was the glaring fact that Nicolai Klindt has zero connection to BV, as one said to me, "try and sell that to a major TV company"... (Well done Nicolai by the way, you Aces Legend!!😁).. What was interesting as two of us discussed the UK Speedway issues four people, two couples, stood behind us said they had been listening and said they thought the same!!! They too were at their first meeting of the season.. You would think some surveys would be carried out via club Facebook pages wouldn't you to get some feedback as to the main reasons why, and why not, close followers of the sport attend, or don't, as the case may be ... It was clear well over a thousand others were not regulars looking at the crowd size, with Sheffield having hardly anyone, (as is usual), there.. As for the night itself, all agreed the presentation was hugely better than we have previously seen, (is that a one off or is that the usual?), the PA system worked well where we were, the food and drink areas were quick and efficient, plenty of toilet facilities and the presentation kept momentum going in between races... It certainly looked like a lot of planning had gone into the night to ensure a good impression for those who were non regulars, hopefully it can pay off early next season.. For a Friday I thought there would have been more kids watching, so maybe a "family area" would help? Ensuring they all can watch together? One "pen" would do it. Maybe at a Special Offer rate for the Adult, (kids are free on the South Side) with someone doing giveaways, face painting etc. . In short, if they could deliver nights like this as "the norm" then UK Speedway would be wondering why they "only get 3,000", rather than it being a "bumper crowd" nowadays... Well done to the Aces, the engine room, once again, delivered, and Luke Killeen certainly showed some real potential to go forward in his career... Let's hope that far too long overdue reset is delivered this winter... The product can attract decent crowds, the infrastructure around it, not so...
    4 points
  37. He can come up with several, problem is he’s one voice in a sea of many and he’ll probably end up drowning in said sea.
    4 points
  38. Happy for belle vue winning on home shale in front of the fans. To be honest this has been a completely awful season for top flight speedway. It has really not got going. 6 teams is just not enough to run a league, especially when 4 of the teams are basically championship teams. With the team belle vue have had this year winning it doesnt feel like id hoped. Personally as a lifelong belle vue fan, ive completely lost interest in league racing. Big changes needed for next year to get the hunger back
    4 points
  39. On that basis theres nothing to stop the line being a metre wide and by your definition being on it would still be on track... I'd say its quite clear - the chalk marks the inner edge of the track surface Therefore the track ends as soon as the line starts
    4 points
  40. Isn't it refreshing to have had these two matches, each with packed stadiums, and no back-biting or moaning from any direction? Two big -- huge, by today's standards -- travelling supports, no complaints about refereeing or accusations about team tactics, just great backing for their riders and appreciation for the opposition. Well done everybody!
    4 points
  41. It’s the way it works I’m afraid and I do agree. As a fan, do you want your club to win things or not? It’s that simple. Musielak and King make poor signings because of their GSA. Brennan has had an absolute stinker of a season but should be the first name on the team sheet. The perverse way Speedway works.
    3 points
  42. I really wouldn't worry yourself, nobody has a clue and its all speculation.
    3 points
  43. Not picking on you at all Diamonds but generally this logic that "let's go NORA" in the event our Ait Fence is not good enough for SCB / BSPL / ACU frankly sickens me and terrifies me. If the powers that be, rightly or wrongly, say an Air Fence is not fit for purpose for the likes of Scott Nicholls, Chris Harris, Richard Lawson and Sam Masters and other to race, how in gods name can anyone then justify sneaking in a season of NORA for Ben Morley, Jack Kingston , and others who are no longer under the SCB banner and indeed dozens of young riders denied the opportunity to ride there as it's deemed unsafe for ACU / SCB and BSPL but safe enough for an Amateur Body. Just think about the consequnces of somebody suffering a life changing injury under those circumstances and then returning in 2028 with a new Air Fence paid for by Sponsors and Supporters. For that reason alone, I think it sould be 2027 with a new Air fence, or 2028 without a new Air fence. TRAINING with one or two riders not RACING fair enough but full on competitive Racing NOPE! As an aside, a very interesting posting from Norris Norris (Floppy) on Plymouth Facebook... I assume he means his beloved Eastbourne and very telling i think that he believes saving Teams is better than bringing back his old Team as some sort of stunt to prop up an 8 Team League that is looking increasingly like a Coleman vanity and ego project...well said Floppy! He posted "Rather than looking at spending 100s of thousands getting former speedway venues back,, it should be priority for the BSPL to finance the rest needed for the air fence immediately and then let Mark and Plymouth concentrate on building from their amazing 2026 season. Regards Flop xx"
    3 points
  44. You never changed jobs before? Known of anyone doing an apprenticeship with a company and then leaving? 3 years is a lot more than some clubs would've gotten.
    3 points
  45. Max Fricke helping prevent his own team from qualifying was a close second .. Joking apart, if you had laid out several hundred quid to watch your team this season, and your best rider helped another team to prevent you from attending the play offs, but then rode in them himself, picking up a fair few grand in the process, you would be a little bit peed off to say the least wouldn't you?.. The sheer concept of it is simply laugh out loud ludicrous isn't it?.. Yet promoters seem to shrug their shoulders and mumble something about "necessary evil"... They must be crackers... At least there isn't any relegation, as Nicolai would have won the league and got relegated at the same time..
    3 points
  46. When the promoters realise that there are too many clubs trying to run full time professional speedway teams and those who can afford to run a loss making club as a hobby or are steeped in self interest step aside and let those with ambition & the vision to work towards profitably promoting the growth of the sport with one top tier league of eight teams.
    3 points
  47. feel exactly the same i wont be turning up for a six team league., to be honest cant see much improvement next season, just cant afford all the top riders, A big reset, is needed. Which is what a few of us were saying last year, i do hope Coleman can come up with a answer , but it is going to be a struggle. was a good crowed last night, and half decent presentation, but that wont be the case for ordinary league, matches.
    3 points
  48. Brennan to be announced officially on Monday
    3 points
  49. Masters confirmed 😀
    3 points
  50. I think you're the one getting confused, not me. When you asked why I continued to argue, you were quoting my post to Gavan where I challenged his and dontforgetthefueltapsbruv's unsubstantiated opinion that the white line belonged to the infield but you go on about the SCB ruling. As others have pointed out though, the SCB statement may be a fact but it certainly lacks substance. Anyway, it would appear that I was correct about the white line. The SCB have amended the wording even though, in my opinion it was adequately defined previously as being on the track surface, which would make the inner side of the line the boundary and that is now confirmed.... No apologies necessary lads 😁 Having just received my Star this morning I see that it says "the white line is part of track, meaning a rider is still legally on the track as long as part of their rear tyre is in contact with the line - however small that contact may be" It doesn't state a source for this ruling but if it's from the SCB we can consider it FACT! 🙂. It seems that one is now put to bed too so there's nothing more to argue about now regarding the actual rules, is there?
    3 points
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