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Mitch Cluff came into KJP's pits straight afterwards and apologised and then waited after the meeting to apologise in person to Kevin in the ambulance. As KJP has personally stated he has no issue with it, he himself said its easy to understand how Mitch got caught in the moment of finishing a great night of scoring. Mistake made,apology given, riders no issue, subject closed.12 points
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Up until a few years ago I never missed a meeting home or away,, now I hardly ever go,, once this year so far. I'm sure I will be the same next year. Same old teams every few weeks, racing more or less non existent, no real characters you look forward to seeing, presentation still the same as 50 years ago, just bored of it now. 25 quid to stand around getting bored doesn't do it for me8 points
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There isn’t one. What? So you’re saying he’s actually lying and there WERE better option out there? Name names as you seem to be another playing the “in the know” game. Let’s look at the facts here shall we? It was your “messiah” Louis and his mate that decided to bugger off at the eleventh hour leaving not only Ipswich hunting around for the scraps left on the table, but also inconvenienced every other club in the league with his selfish attitude. He left his own die hard supporters fearing the absolute worst over the long winter months, not knowing whether their beloved club would still even exist, which also threw the whole league set up in chaos with no clubs able to release their own fixtures and sell their own season tickets which clubs rely on for winter cash flow. I find your post along with those from TTT incredibly ungrateful to both Richard Coleman, AND Paul Hurry for rescuing Ipswich and the top league this season. Hurry by all accounts, doesn’t get paid a single penny for his role as team manager, just expenses paid. He’s doing the club a favour here. I find it genuinely staggering that an Ipswich supporter of all people, are looking at Coleman’s arrival negatively. In my opinion, he’s been a breath of fresh air and spoken incredibly well on lots of varying issues. The communication has been first class despite him only being in place a matter of months. Coleman knew his media man Paul Burbidge had written up the main story in the Speedway Star about the partnership with Wroclaw a couple of weeks ago, so he gathered supporters at Foxhall to tell them the news first, 24 hours before the article went to press. That again, is first class. That partnership should be exciting the Ipswich supporters, not creating negativity. It’s certainly ruffled a few feathers of fans from other clubs judging by their catty comments on here! I see one from Leicester a few posts up has joined the party, “liked” by the usual suspects from Manchester. The bloke has literally just walked in the door at your club, he’s given the supporters another year of Speedway despite only getting the keys in March, all whilst promising the supporters a better 2027 when they’ll be given a fair chance of building a team. Show some gratitude.8 points
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Sorry, but thats complete rubbish. Loram, Havelock, Tatum, Screen, Louis, Smith, Morton, Collins and Craven were all much better than Woffinden8 points
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Following the Bates announcement on Monday, it's clear that the Premiership can't continue to exist in its current form in 2027. In the past 18 months we've lost Oxford and Birmingham and it seems certain that Sheffield won't be back for another year. Decades of the sport's mismanagement has finally come to a head. Bending over backwards to comply with an agenda dictated by Poland has had its day. British speedway needs to set its own agenda and not kowtow to foreign stipulations. If it means saying a permanent goodbye to riders preferring to seek their fortunes elsewhere, so be it. For survival we need a single nationwide league of 12/14 teams of riders committed 100% to British racing between March and October. A 24/26 match league programme plus a further 8/10 matches in a split north-south KO cup competition will guarantee teams a weekly match programme (just as it used to be!) The loss of a few "fancy-Dan" racers to Poland will mean much more money available to the rest who wish to compete in the UK, and a sensible rider payment policy will provide ample earnings potential for riders over a guaranteed 36-match season. It now really is a battle for survival of the sport; was it Einstein who said that to go on doing the same things expecting different results is the definition of madness?7 points
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Its hard to knock him really. Shows hes a grafter. Plastering alone is a physically demanding job and riding in two leagues plus abroad , hes making a very decent living for himself.7 points
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Yawn fest because one team so much better on their track If you want to see close racing try Ipswich v Northampton or Leicester v Northampton where the racing would be closer and require all round skills7 points
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I feel that I must comment. My wife and I come up from Somerset for all the Poole matches and always have a great time . Glasgow fans are the best.7 points
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Not a huge shock but I am glad he is walking away from the sport on his own terms best wishes for long and happy retirement .7 points
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It simply doesn't matter what they come up with if hardly anyone from the 80 million people in the UK know that you exist... What does a Premiership team cost? £350k a year maybe??. Shave off £50k and pay someone that money to work full time to run your marketing and commercial operations, plus running the "fan experience" on the night itself... With their remit to bring in a tangible extra £100k a season in sponsorship, and attendance increases... Give them full remit to do "whatever they need to", to get, at least, 2500 in the stadium... Free tickets, reduced tickets, database collation, even direct cold call marketing, their role will be to get the team noticed and get "new" money into the club... The more who attend, the better the atmosphere as we know, currently any "newbie" attending would have been in louder, more atmospheric libraries.. You can pay out six figures for a top two world class riders who, due to their small public profiles, will bring in hardly anyone extra to watch, or pay someone a decent figure, (with performance bonus), to get them noticed , and then bring people in to watch them.... I visited a pub on Monday to meet up with an old workmate, a pub I had never used before... I signed up to use their WIFI... Within 24 hours I had a 15% off voucher emailed to me for this Sunday in their restaurant, and thanking me for my custom... The circa 3000 or so who still follow most Premiership teams, should all be known to "someone" at the club,(via the clubs database), and that "someone" then keeps constantly communicating and doing anything, and everything, they can to encourage repeat visits... 500 empty seats just get colour faded in the sunshine... 500 full ones, even at a tenner each, will bring in £50k over a season, and create far more of an "event feel" and atmosphere, plus increase bar, food and merchandise takings... UK Speedway brings in big money in relation to its size, and pays out even more!! It needs to redistribute the money going out to people who could help bring more people in.. And currently, that isn't the riders..6 points
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I really struggle with all the negativity currently around the club. we had an amazing 3 years with Emil & Jason & bar injuries should have won more & let’s not forget how we threw away the title in 2023. Coleman & co coming in late was always going to provide problems with the team in terms of who was available. I was always prepared to write this year off however we have a cup final & are still in with a shout of the play offs. To win the play offs you need a team that goes well at Belle Vue & not many sides do that. Your going to meet them either in the semi of the final. If Mayfield puts together similar team in 2027 & this time next year we are having similar conversations then they will deserve the criticism. The negative part for me is that in 5 years time of Coleman hasn’t managed to change this both in the uk & at gp level he will walk away form both. However at that point if he hasn’t managed to get change though & we are not seeing uk speedway improving to be honest there won’t be much to walk away from at uk level.6 points
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Also, well done both teams for making the final again. It was looking sketchy earlier in the season.6 points
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Criminally underused as top publicity for our beleaguered sport when he was at the height of his powers. Brilliant career. Even better fuc*in dj…😁6 points
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Links for tonight: https://vksport.vkvideo.ru/video-53550004_456242744 https://vkvideo.ru/video-81427162_456239806 https://vkvideo.ru/video-234681448_4562392886 points
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I do agree 100%, but.... Promotion and Relegation will be a pipe dream unfortunately due to so few riders willing to ride over here, and the many second tier crowds not bringing in the income to pay riders to ride exclusively for them, meaning DU'ing will remain forever... For me, some major prize for winning the top league is the thing that would generate interest... Sadly, pretty much since the Sky money disappeared, and a nationally recognised company, (Skybet), sponsored the league, winning any of the leagues has had little rewards... The last decade, in particular, unfortunately has rendered any league largely irrelevant given the lack of publicity, the crowd numbers reducing, and the farcical operating model which is now set in stone as fundamentally the only way they can keep running their tracks... The inescapable feeling is that the tracks are now just open so riders can earn a living, and promoters can rub shoulders with them, enjoying their hobby... Nothing more, nothing less..6 points
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2026 as been a hard watch and that started from november 25, a winter of discontent not knowing what structure will be, lost lots of fans before a wheel was even turned, and they not done anything to entice them back. i remember dicko saying they will be sorting 2027 out very early during the seasoon, well we are nearer the end of the season and nothing about 27 as been mentioned, set out a plan that fans believe in and you might just entice these people back, fans are out there, thats the frustrating thing. before they start trying to bring new fans in they need to bring back the fans that have walked away, start of by securing a TV deal, thats a masisve loss of money for the clubs, plus people easily forget the sport is still going when all the domestic league racing is behind a paywall that only existing fans know about. no one knows the figures of BSN or the clubs private streams but they are deffo having an impact on attendances, yes clubs are still getting money with them watching at home but they lose out on parking money, food and drink and merchandise sales, so they must be taking a massive financial kick in the bollocks with it. scrap streaming need a new vision, Rob Godfrey has to stand down, which i think will be this year, if they can, while hes not everybodys cup of team, and tbh, i see him as a guy that will leave the sport and never be seen again, but try tempt Tai to run the sport in uk, hes got no ties with any club, and we know his marketing value is very good. leads me perfectly to marketing, or lack of it, constantly asking fans to spread the word about speedway, i think most fans do that anyway but your job as a promotor is to promote, and it seems no one does, Plymouth are doing a fanstastic job of it. that old saying, speculate to accumulate, advertising is not cheap but if it gets you an extra 100 people through the door at £25 thats £2,500 extra every week, add on top of that drinks and other sales. Ask Mark Phillips what hes doing and plymouth and follow his ideas, he seems to be upping his crowd. dont do one league, every sport needs a top league to sell, put the points limit up and go back to the old style , 45 point limit for 7 riders, scrap the RS and put it in the champ. prepare your tracks better and you will see an influx of riders return, riders want to race uk but they dont trust track prep when you speak to them or hear what they have to say on various podcasts. season tickets should be discounted like ipswich have done. sell the season ticket valued at £20 per match, and give them the option to pay monthly, starting from november, atmosphere is missing totally, each track have a certain area in the stadium where fans can congregate and make some noise, start meetings on time, and make sure they last no more than 90 minutes (crashes dependent) regular fixtures, far to many teams going 4-5 weeks without a home match, should be 2 weeks at most re-brand the play offs, i like the Denmark way of doing it, whoever finishes top of regular season ride the final at there track in a 4TT, or make it top team straight to the final and 2nd and 3rd team if a play off tie for the final we all want weekend racing, but we just cant do that unfortunately, the top league need to ride all matches on Mondays, this is uk race night, there will be no clashes with any team in europe and gives clubs' full availability to all riders fort every match, dont scrap the guests but limit the amount of times you can use a guest,5 points
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I think you're right. Speedway has bred a generation of riders who want to have their cake and eat it: they want to earn their bread and butter in the UK leagues and chase the Polish Zloty to put the jam on top. This forces the British promoters to dance to the Polish tune when trying to plan the home fixture list. This can't go on. We've blamed the promoters for years for the mess we're in, but nobody points the finger at the greedy riders whose jet-setting international ambitions leave the promoters tearing their hair out week after week to put on a do-able programme of racing. If British speedway is to survive, 2027 has to be the year when we revert to a single nationwide league (see my previous posting) and riders are forced to decide: either sign a contract to race exclusively for one of the 15 teams in a revived British speedway league, or clear off and ply their trade elsewhere. I reckon the promise of 36+ guaranteed matches per season without the need for expensive international travel - albeit in a slightly less competitive league - will be more than attractive to the vast majority of riders. For the rest we're probably better off without them. And for those people who always argue that there aren't sufficient riders around to run a 15-team league without doubling up, it may come as a surprise to learn that the list of registered riders on the BSL website runs to 249 names. It's time for speedway to bite the bullet or face the inevitable.5 points
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This is such an uplifting forum. When I’m feeling a bit down I love coming on here to read everyone’s cheery positive thoughts on the ol Speedway 😁5 points
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I'll still attend, probably until the bitter end, but I'll no longer be attending matches where a rider has decided that he'd rather be elsewhere. Dan Thompson did that when Lions visited Sheffield earlier in the year and I made my protest then by not attending. Injuries are part and parcel of the sport, but riders not showing for their clubs due to riding or being sat in the pits elsewhere is the final straw for me. The reasons why attendances are down are numerous and have all been discussed ad infinitum across this forum, so I'm not going to rehash them5 points
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Luckily we got to see Kurtz pass everyone in heat 13 when he missed the gate though to make up for others only gating.5 points
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Knock knock knock! Hello 👋 Is there anybody there? It's awfully lonely in here 😂5 points
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Will always be a controversial guy but can't fault his three world titles. I remember watching him get a maximum at Newport for Rye in his debut season and you just knew he was going to be good, he stagnated for a year or so at Wolves and looked a million miles away from being a world champion but fair play to him. He has the same amount of titles as Crump and Pedersen. Would you rate him as highly as them? Not for me. But for people to compare the likes of Andy Smith and Gary Havelock to him is a joke and shows how thick the poster must be.5 points
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Glasgow deserve to lose this picking Kemp to ride at number 1. A pathetic rider with a piss poor attitude.5 points
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I thought it was an decent meeting, I would certainly sooner watch a meeting from this track than Ipswich, Northampton, Sheffield, Oxford, Plymouth or Poole. It was not a dust a bowl, neither was it over watered, you saw clean passes after the 1st/2nd bend on both the inside and the outside throughout the meeting.5 points
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It's because Paulco, who normally did it, got fed up with peope with multiple user names posting rubbish he got fedup with the forum and doesn't even look at it now5 points
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Tremendous level of sour grapes there, kudos To say there was no passing is nonsense Heat 4, Thomson gets third on the line almost second Heat 6 Grahn and Foord passed and repassed Heat 9 Paco on Allen Heat 10 Dan on Allen heat 14 Edwards on Cluff, Paco on Scott Heat 15 all 4 riders changed position at one point or another With a few other exciting enough races thrown in with Klindt buzzing about Thompson in 13 amongst them I’m not saying Armadale is gonna be confused with Belle Vue or Bydgoszcz anytime soon but to say there was no passing is laughably wrong.5 points
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Totally agree this so called league is terrible, throw in the big gaps between home meetings, the amount of guests etc and its no wonder even die hard fans are walking away.5 points
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King back on it tonight,,, he's been a superstar this season,, and looks like scotty rolling back the years on a track that suits him4 points
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I've given up, posted not long ago about how I haven't attended any meetings this year. Shame and sad. Reason one is money, I'm saving and losing speedway hasn't bothered me too much in the slightest, I only miss the chit chat. Speedway is now expensive to attend. Reason two is the lack of importance, Its sad that I don't care if my team wins the cup this year. I honestly couldn't give a monkeys about it. I could probably put another dozen reasons why I've given up but all of it has been mentioned previously. Until they implement real change I'm not going back. What does the change look like? I'm not sure but I want them to TRY something new at least. Its still the same boring usual suspects in the play offs with the same teams on crap tracks followed by tractor racing. God I could rant on but you don't need to read it. Oh and for those supporters still claiming the premiership is necessary, just look at your attendances, how many clubs are closing or losing money and if the sport is better off with it. I personally have completely given up with it. The premiership DOESNT WORK.4 points
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👋 Surely the likes of Dan Thompson can't make a living from watching Speedway sat in the pits in Poland? And he needs to remember that when signing his contracts.4 points
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Every speedway club last year lost money apart from Poole and Ipswich which is probably only down to extra play off meetings with large crowds. this season there is no tv money so every club is £70k down before a wheel has turned. Sheffield have lost their main sponsor so that’s possibly another £20k down. Also the cost of starting up of Northampton is possibly being shared by the promotion too so further funding diminishing. But the BSPL have a cunning plan. Simply cut the points limit and loose a few top riders while at the same time put up admission. now this has been done about 28 times previously failing miserably and losing more disillusion fans each time so it’s very likely to work in 2026.4 points
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At the risk of banging the drum again - maybe someone will hear it this time? - there needs to be regular fixtures on a fixed night for each track, whichever they see as best for their business. And regular means more, so that means amalgamating the leagues. And cut the cloth according to the cost, teamwise.4 points
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It's not too difficult to understand where it all started to go wrong is it?4 points
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It’s criticising for the sake of it. The heat 15 choice was simply two from three candidates, and the manager went with the two better trappers and not the rider who tailed off badly against the same Belle Vue pairing two heats earlier! It’s all a bit bizarre on here at the moment and all a bit OTT.4 points
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He’s talking about the previous fixture against Belle Vue. To be fair to Hurry, it’s easy to question his selecting with the benefit of hindsight knowing Belle Vue had a last heat 1-5. But from their programmed rides, Lawson was 3, 1’, 3, 3 and King was 2, 2, 3, 3. Musielak was 3, 3, 3, 0. Although Musielak’s duck egg was a tough heat 13. It wasn’t an obvious choice for heat 15, and IMO King and Lawson are slightly better gaters than Tobi so I didn’t disagree with the choice at the time personally. I certainly wouldn’t describe it as a major clanger. On your second point about changes,, There are so few options once the season gets underway that any are likely to be like for like. People mention Doyle, but Belle Vue asked the question when they had a vacancy but we’re talking about a rider just shy of an 8 point average. You’d have to remove Brennan probably and at least one other, and with Brennan struggling everywhere and losing rides abroad, Coleman doesn’t strike me as the sort of owner to add to his problems and dump him here also. As I’ve said before, that may be irritating to supporters in the long term who want success and instant changes when things aren’t going well, but the flip side of that, is I can see Coleman being a popular owner for riders to ride for. He seems genuinely supportive and sympathetic to riders as we saw from the way he dealt with the rider insurance issue so I don’t think he’ll be short of offers from riders over the winter wanting to ride for him. That can only be of benefit to Ipswich.4 points
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Fair play Thomsen, brilliant ride. BZ too concerned about Lambert, luckily for him m it wasn't Kurtz round the outside. Lambert will be disappointed but he looked properly world class this evening and is starting to develop some consistency. And he picked Zmarzlik off twice.4 points
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Come off it mate. Kvech had the corner, Doyle has just sent it and hoped for the best, made contact with Kvech and he’s came down. Pretty sure if you were in Kvech’s position there you’d have done the exact same thing.4 points
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The very same. We were regulars at Eastbourne and the children (16+20 now) were introduced to speedway in a carrycot. Week in , week out even in the NL days. We would go and watch speedway when they raced away at Lakeside and took them to Rye House when the opportunity allowed. Now with demise of Eastbourne (rinsed by Ian Jordan) and no Lakeside there is no speedway close to us in Greater London / Surrey. So we have had a trip to Oxford and a trip to Norfolk last year and watched a meeting at Kings Lynn + Ipswich but with no league racing on tv - HBO/TNT/BT it is now just a case of checking results on the BSN app + watching races on twitter. Our speedway fix now is the SGP series on TV, my daughter returns from University for each SGP and we watch it as a family. That's it !! The sport is in Cardiac arrest !!4 points