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It’s the basic principle of the more they rev the louder they are and the original silencers were straight through ones till about 10 years ago, then they put a metal block half way along the silencer which caused extra back pressure and heat so engines had to be altered to suit the back pressure and heat shields were introduced because the silencers were getting so hot, this was the cause of the cheating when riders were drilling holes in the block and then the current silencers have the same hole in them that the cheaters were doing, it’s writing stuff like this and reading it back you realise how stupid speedway really is

Dan has his say, and I agree with him 100%...

The 2valve/4 valve argument is largely redundant, it’s has no real bearing on the current state of the sport, bikes are no faster now in real time speed than they were 40 years ago, what has changed dramatically is the speed of the back wheel, engine revs now are ridiculously and unnecessarily high, japs revved up to around 6000, 2valve Jawa revved up 7500 revs, 4 valve weslake were up to around 9500 and upright GMs to around 11500, the modern GM can max out at around 13500 revs although during a race you would be lucky to hit 12,000 revs but as I said earlier overall times over 4 laps haven’t really changed, the increase in revs is causing the tyres to disintegrate and it’s causing the tracks to disintegrate and it’s also made the bikes flat out power rather than throttle control, the modern silencer has reduced the usual power down to about 2000 revs, anything out side that usable rev range and you will not go anywhere, imo the introduction of a 10,500 rev limit via the rev limiter, a better tyre and a better silencer would make the bikes easier to control, you could also do things like smaller cam lift or heavier flywheels or softer compression to reduce the overall revs of the engine, it’s not too hard to implement these measures but unfortunately the sport is run by the riders for the riders via the tuners so don’t expect anything to change anytime soon

Can we just take it as read that any rider who was killed in action 'left us too soon' The most complete list is here: https://speedwayinmemoriam.yolasite.com/

I know nothing is likely to change but hope we get the Tigers vs Comets more than 1H, 1A next season. Both sides take a good away following and certainly generates interest this end. It's a travesty when you think Poole/Oxford raced each other 8 times this year. Something has to change, and if the reason for lack of meetings is mainly down to Oxford running 3 sides, then it's an absolute shambles. I fear that it's just going to be the same old BSN groups and then the same league format.

There’s a case for handicap racing there then. If some riders struggle then get them out first and the “good” rides can pass them. Personally it matters not how good or bad a rider is at these so called technical tracks, if you don’t gate you don’t win - simple. Jake’s as wobbly as you’re going to get at this stage in his career but if he gates at these technical tracks he gets points. Makes me laugh how NSS can be deemed a throttle jockey track when it’s the most technical out there from a speedway racing point of view due to the amount of lines to either guard or mount an attack. If technical is popping out of the gate and sitting on THE line a la scalextic shows more skill than moving around the track effectively then I’m happy to leave them in their happy ignorance.

With very little profit though.Better winning everything in Championship than going bust.

I see your point but the throttle jockey track hasnt had any negative effect on Dan for example when it comes to tracks like Cardiff and Leicester. Not the "technical" tracks around these days like there used to be.

If you can't tell the difference between Jason Garrad riding around and falling off on his own, and Vinnie Foord riding around and dangerously taking off an opposing rider(s) because he doesn't have the skill to control his speed - then I'm not sure your opinion is worth listening to. Sorry.

Don't see why so many people have a problem with this post. If Lambert rides as well as he did last year, then it will be interesting - could mean decent races against Lawson, Brennan & the Cooks. Lisa never said it would help Oxford win the Cup, merely that it could be interesting. She's entitled to her opinion, why are so many people bothered by it?

Plymouth are good at that.

Papers are renowned for telling the truth, probably a planted story to try and get people through the door for tomorrow night’s meeting. If true which I doubt I would be disgusted an Oxford fan.

Ellis at BV would be an interesting one... Always think that there is more to come from him.. Might sound daft, but I think he is a fair bit better than his average in the UK suggests.. With his mate alongside him maybe he will flourish and reach the level many thought he could get to four or five years ago...?

Zmarzlik and Robert Lambert !! 😆

Where I'm currently at, I don't think I'm that far off tbh. BV - 1. Kurtz, 2. Blodorn, 3. Lidsey, 4. (5.75 Ellis?), 5. Bewley, 6. Zischke & 7. Mulford BIR - 1. ?, 2. Z. Cook, 3. Douglas, 4. S. Worrall, 5. ?, 6. Lampart & 7. Edwards IPS - 1. Doyle, 2. Rew, 3. Brennan, 4. King, 5. Sayfutdinov, 6. D. Thompson & 7. Jenkins KL - 1. B. Cook, 2. Kvech, 3. Iversen, 4. Klindt, 5. (6.95), 6. Harris & 7. Boughen LEI - 1. Fricke, 2. Howarth, 3. Lawson, 4. Becker, 5. Masters, 6. (5.01 Sedgmen/Kerr) & 7. Hagon OX - 1. Musielak, 2. Riss, 3. Janowski, 4. Wright, 5. Tungate, 6. (5.19 Sedgmen/C. Cook) & 7. Killeen SHE - 1. J. Holder, 2. Rowe, 3. Woffinden, 4. Pickering, 5. C. Holder, 6. Gilkes & 7. Flint

Howarth at Leicester apparently

Unless it’s the NL where they added half a point on to the limit just so a rider could get a team after every other team had built theirs

Season ticket holders of the Brummies will have free access to Warwickshire County Championship cricket matches whilst Warwickshire members will be able to attend speedway fixtures at Perry Barr in a reciprocal agreement. So regardless of which sport you like to watch, you could just buy the cheaper season ticket then? But realistically fans would probably want to support their "own" team.

Christer Lofqvist died 1978 from a brain tumour aged 33, always remembered by West Ham fans

Paul Muchene. He may not have been a future world champion, but was an honest rider who was starting to make his way in the sport. Taken too early after a horrific crash at Hackney in 1989.

You think that's strange? 😆

The whole Poole team plus Middlo heard it though, so obviously did happen imo.

Toby-ankle; Vinnie-wrist/shoulder;Sam-ribs.

sorry but no rider who gave his life for our sport and entertainment should ever be forgotten

Crewe?

Given last year there were a few thank you and goodbye messages after the season finished, does the lack of any such updates so far reveal indecision about make up of the team? Or was that just last year because we won the league?

I think r/r has been signed at No 1

Just waiting for @BackInTheDHSS to start on Dan Bewley for thinking Vinnie isn't dangerous like he does with other people

Beggars can’t be choosers. Not many clubs want the joy of Troy anymore.

i have no idea on the finances for either league, it is clear getting top riders to ride in our top league has been good for the sport in this country but it is fairly obvious the Championship is far more cost effective, we get the same crowds so get very similar income but pay out less. I would love us to compete in the top league but at this time I don't think it is worth the risk.

Lewy you must be extremely frustrated not having anything speedway news-related down in Devon for what must be at least 2 months or probably more - even when your season was still going!🤣🤣 Such a shame you cant find anything to keep you away from every Poole thread!!

You do learn to NOT lock a bike up, but instead let it "flow" through the bends to keep speed and momentum up.. And learn to use different entry and exit lines each lap to mess up the rider behind who may be thinking about a pass.. A good learning ground for those who will develop onto the international stage, where these type of wide tracks are more the norm than the old "technical tracks" of yesteryear in the UK.. The ones that "you had to learn to ride to be the best in the world".. Those few meetings Zmarzlik did at Brum must have worked wonders!!!!😁

See @LisaColette, non-Poole fans can admit when they're wrong. If it was the other way around, you'd be trying to argue the passing of time is different on the south coast.

So - by your logic - we need to compare Lambert like-for-like on a wet track from two years ago (I'm sure nothing has changed in two years, right?), but we have to compare Lambert to Nicholls when he scored six on a dry track? You're making less sense each post! Let's not forget you started this by saying Lambert's inclusion as a guest will make it interesting! Anyway, I guess time will tell. I'll remind you of your original post when Poole win by 20+ points. Maybe Lambert will perform a miracle.

poole are interested in anyone on the right average ie one which can be added to

I would agree to a large extent but that can be said for most m/cycle sport ,the riders that have always stood out to me are the likes of Nikki Ped and Doyle IMO they have a slightly awkward (to me ugly style ) always seem to be on the edge fighting the bike looking I think almost as if they are going to take a highsider any moment .Other riders look like they are in an armchair Hancock , PK and Jack Holder spring to mind , I think Fricke , Bewley have a lovely styles but there no mistaking BZ his is IMO unique .

Rumour has it from a couple of sources that Lawson has signed for Lynn… don’t know how true that is

Vissing wasn't mentioned, he's gone missing all ready from my team 😄

Be a struggle for them to sign a number 1, they only seem to get one meeting per year. Can't be an attractive contract for any rider.

Cook and Starke in the same team? Lots of meetings missed there when they don't show. Vissing never puts a full season in either so don't sign all three.

I remember Lewis Bridger coming to Newport with a 2 valve upright for the Winter Classic and not having a good day, good thing about that winter meeting was Tim always had riders who would give it a go in the worst conditions, have a look at this final, passing and re-passing ( and a couple of falls)

Would prefer Poole to stick with Hagon over Thompson (if not having both) Hagon did have a very poor end to the season but had kept his average over 5 until the final GSA. Hagon undoubtedly has talent and good backing. Just a huge loss of confidence as soon as he started riding in the premiership. No doubt going to Australia should help him get back to where he was and I would be disappointed if he wasn’t retained. Certainly has it in him to up his average.

Great post! Looking at the averages in the championship the other day asking where are the next line of heat leaders coming from. Doubling up seems to have taken away the mid level riders in the lower division that step up once the top boys move on. The RS should have been at that level to push the riders we've lost over the last 5/10 years into the second string/3rd heat leader roles. Think you nailed it with the Simon Lambert example. Poland haven't seen many of their top level juniors kick on at the world stage as expected but they are still performing at a very good standard in their domestic leagues. From the u21 final 10 years ago, only Ellis, Howarth and Coles are still riding. Phillips and Mountain were meeting reserves and the only ones still with a league place from the qualifier. The Polish junior final that year had, Musielak, Pieszczeck, Przedpelski, Gomolski, Zmarzlik, Smektala, Woryna, Pawlicki, Wozniak, Gala and Cyfer.

Like the sound of your second team.

You'd think so, signing him on 8, dropping to 7, then letting another team gain the advantage of his improvement throughout the season sounds like something Peter Schroeck would do lol!

Got to feel sorry for Boughan getting stuck at KL.

Wherever he ends up he should be encouraged rather than vilified a young kid who clearly has talent but a raw talent. Starting a thread questioning if a young kid is dangerous is over the top.

Give me 40 with an 8 team league and 2H2A, rather than 38 with a 9 team league and 1H1A.

Good then they can have 2H@2A lol

Now they've given Hodder a full season, think it's worth giving him another go.