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Anyone remember Rob Grant?

That is correct he can and he doesn’t do anything wrong but the fact remains he was the one who turned into foord

Junior or senior... In fact doesn't matter 🤣

You need balls ride a bike you need confidence to race it, crashes do make you weary and the longer your career the more that weariness grows but pretty much you are over it when you get your next race win, nobody wants to crash but if this is in your mind especially in your early years of your career then you need to ask yourself should I be doing this ?

I guess you made a big donation?

I don't meant to be harsh, but it feels like most of you commenting on Ashton Boughen have literally only seen him race at Poole. I've watched him for two seasons now, and shutting the throttle off when people are near him has never been an issue in the past. It's clearly because he has been riding while injured and doesn't want to aggravate said injury, surely? You've only got to look at his recent form to know something is amiss - you don't go from scoring a maximum at Redcar to riding like that at Poole in the space of a month for no reason. I will agree that Ashton is a bit of an enigma. When he's in front he looks like a million dollars, but when he's behind and doesn't fancy it, he cruises around at the back. On occasions he's come from last to first at Oxford, riding the high line and looking sensational - but there is the other side of him where you can clearly hear him shutting off the throttle coming into the bends when in last place. There is absolutely nobody around him when he does this, it's just something he does, and I don't know why. But at the end of the day, he's 17 years of age, this is only his second full season in the sport and he's still learning his way. Give him time, because he's certainly not afraid of other riders around him or mixing it up when needs be. He just needs to learn the best way to do it.

someone has said it was the same part of the straight where masters was turning one could argue that scott was in front and can turn when he likes within reason

Phew! I thought I'd been Trackratted!

It's not just Poole, it's not just speedway. This is a result of giving the sadder individuals amongst us the freedom to spout via social media. In previous eras they would have been moaning alone or in small groups of sad moaners and been ignored by most of society. Today, social media gives them an equal voice.

He has said he wants to ride for King’s Lynn for a full season before he retires though… so you never know

The wooly bully at his best. Must've had the widest wingspan in speedway elbow to elbow 🤣

Did you see Foord in the first leg at Oxford, or the U19 championship? He's definitely a bit reckless, but has speed. Just needs to learn to tone it down a bit - and more importantly listen to advice from some more senior riders.

Not the owner, just the owners son, who was just enjoying the atmosphere we was creating. he also rides for our club. So really nothing to see here

I've seen 95% of Cheetahs matches this season, all home and nearly all away and he's been doing it all season. The only time he doesn't is when he's in front. It appears worse now as as it's happening more often and more people have noticed and are commenting on it. I'd also be wary of off track issues, this is also not something new. Whether rider mechanics family members or a combination, there does appear to be an attitude somewhere, and seemingly not a positive one.

Bumpity bump... Just gone past 2,000 today

This Ekstraliga 2 Thursday issue that’s getting a lot of airtime on here isn’t as big as it looks. For example Sheffield started their season middle of March and finished end of September, in that period there was 9 Thursdays unused, pretty sure Polish fixtures will be out well ahead of British ones so surely with big of jiggery pokery the fixtures could easily be accommodated to fit in the 12 TV fixtures from Poland

I’m not making this assumption after 1 meeting I’ve seen it in a few meeting now and im not the only one who is seeing it

I really don't think crowd funding should be used like this. Naive fans are being taken advantage of. If Birmingham want a donation, they should open their books and show what the money is needed for.

A rider lacking confidence does not pin it round the air fence for 4 laps infront of the opposite no1, there is more to it than confidence or age, you can tell by the way he rides the bike he has the ability and the speed and is pretty natural on any bike

Are they going to give the air fence's side of the story as well, so not to be biased?

And people say Foord is dangerous.

He did they have a place they could move into tomorrow except they need to wait until a motorway junction nearby is altered before they can get on with planning permission from council.Its a 21 acre site which will be used for multiple sports with Adams and CVS running the speedway and Tai in charge of the rest.

No wonder the sport is on its arse with posts like that

The bottom line is Poole were the best team in the league. They assembled a strong top 4, including three riders with significant potential to improve (and all three did, although Zach seemed to save his best performances for the Brummies). Then they signed 'a second-rate' Dane already regarded as a failure over here that nobody else had the remotest interest in and got points out of him. Then they managed to get far more from Hagon (at least in the first half of the season) and Foord (who has a lower NDL average than Scott or Perry) than could reasonably be expected. Whether it's in spotting who to sign or how they bring out the best in riders once signed Poole have that extra edge. My one reservation would be their lack of interest in grassroots speedway.

Having watched Vinnie Foord crash six times in his last three meetings (and take out two air fences), is he too dangerous? Should there be some sort of speedway exam (like a driving test) riders should take before being allowed to race against other riders? He’s going to cause someone serious harm.

You could write a book on the riders Granty upset.In the bar after the meeting Tom Owen said Crabby should have know better😂😂

I was talking about 2 separate incidents, Foord with Killen and Foord with Scott

Foord was ahead of Killeen, Scott was ahead of Foord.... but according to Shovlar Foord wasn't responsible for either.

You wonder if he bought the club just to make it easier for his kid to practice whenever he wanted. What he will have paid for the club won’t have put a dent in his net worth. You wonder if when William turns 16 if he doesn’t become the Aces RS after riding for the Colts this season and agreeing to do 2025 also

Surely with so few meetings, a Championship side could run on a Monday. ? Double uppers could be worked around with Guests if needed... Plenty of meetings will run with them so a few more wouldn't make any difference..

As I said in an earlier post, he's definitely shutting off at times, but I don't think it's related to being close to other riders. He does it at the first bend, or in the early stages of races. If he gets out in front, there's no stopping him. However, when he's behind you can often hear him shutting off coming into a bend (it's noticeable enough to have half the Oxford crowd groaning when he does it). Usually, as soon as that first lap is complete, he gets his head down and doesn't do it again - sometimes he goes to on pass people riding out wide, and other times he's simply far behind already to make any impact. It's all very strange. But yes, he's young, and still learning. The fact he's (and I emphasise this) not afraid to mix it with other riders makes him more of an enigma.

But but Errr, several of th other teams race on Thursdays 🤔

Trackrat is in padded cell no2, arthur54 has been in no1 since 2014, he only gets out when face and baracus come and collect him

When did Vinnie think Jody was going to turn, he expected him to keep going straight until he got past?

If you know anything about speedway then you will know kasprazak wasn’t/isn’t known as a journeyman, he is known for being a very non dependable rider who when in the mood can beat the best but when he isn’t he goes missing and doesn’t race often frustrating fans, this is what boughen does, last night he was brilliant in one race beating Lawson using the fence then in other 3 rides shuts off and is nowhere and it’s the shutting off that is the concern, that is the trait of someone who doesn’t want to be in that situation, he is making good gates then shutting off,his shutting off caused the crash with cook, can’t see why this needs explaining to you but there you go

Jaimon Lidsey stays with Grudziadz in 2025

What I really don't get is you have Poole Pirates speedway club, well ran,successful and a good model for other teams to aspire to. Yet they have some of the most odious, arrogant,ignorant, snidey, bias supporters on the bsf in the likes of Shovlar, Skidder1, SteveLyric2, Arthur54 to name a few surely with the success the Pirates have had it really would be quite easy to be alot nicer and sporting. This doesn't include the majority like lisa,Catalan and a fair few others. 🪖

The Officer reports are now available on line. Hugely disappointing to note that they have recommended approval of the applications, despite acknowledging that the applications do not comply with parts of the Local Plan. I hope Councilors see through this, and I hope those speaking against the applications can strongly make the points for refusal.

It wasn't a terrible advert for the sport at all. It actually made it look interesting on TV for a change. I watched as a neutral, and found myself rooting for Oxford as the two meetings went on (Lord knows why!), but the way people are moaning about Poole actually having a bit of character and spirit is ridiculous. Do speedway fans really just want deckchairs, flasks and programme boards?

Regarding the Scott/Foord incident, just watch Heat 5 (as an example) and see where Sam Masters starts to turn as he crosses the start/finish line. Jody Scott did the same, as do many others.

Track was no worse than Oxford on Sat.IMO.

Missed (or ignored) my point completely!

Tried to explain this last night, watch it frame by frame, Scott is the one who turns into foord, once they got tangled up the crash was inevitable but too many people are either caught up in the emotion or just bias to see what actually happened

I don't think he has an awful attitude. It looked to me like the Oxford fans were giving him stick, and he was giving it back with a smile on his face. I like him, and I think he has a lot of potential. I do agree that he is a bit of a bull in a china shop at the moment, however, and needs to calm down a bit.

Need to air this under dangerous rider thread

From what I seen lastnight and listening to his interview, hes going to seriously hurt someone soon if he doesnt tone it down.

I wasnt saying he is like a journeyman like kasprazak, it’s the point about him wining a race beating the best and then shutting off in his next ride and goes missing, it isn’t a slight lack of confidence it’s a massive lack of confidence,as I said there is a difference between losing and shutting off, shutting off is a sign you don’t want to be there and for a rider so young that’s a problem, what I see is a rider who doesn’t like to be in traffic, is a world beater when he gets fresh air but gets frightened when anyone around him

There is no doubt Pedersen was dirty but he knew exactly where he was putting his bike and was levels and levels above Foord ability wise. Think Foord is more Jason Garrity than Nicki Pedersen.

Vinnie Foord should have his license taken away. He's a bull in a china shop that's either going to put himself in a wheelchair or someone else. A big difference in a tough racer and someone who is out of control and a danger to everyone involved.

In 1964 there only seven teams in the National league ( top league )….. only 2 teams are still going now. The following year the NL and the provincial league combined with 17 teams forming the British League… home and away once with a Ko cuo A vital step made whereby the sport revived itself