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Well I remember 5 overtakes off the top of my head.Harris on Douglas twice,Kvech on Cook,Kerr on Lawson,Lambert on Masters,Fricke and Kvech on each other.There you go that's more than 5.You obviously choose to see what you want to see to be able have another dig at Lynn wherever possible.

I hope not. The premiership section of the forum will be far worse with their inclusion

Despite all the troubles, the on track action at Lynn has been pretty decent this season, and for me, another enjoyable evening at the AFA. Thought the crowd was pretty decent considering the meeting was on TV and it was the third home meeting in a week. Some good close racing and as @tellboy said, a decent amount of passing on a well prepared track. Thought Fricke was a bit naughty on Jan coming off the second bend in Heat 11. Definitely looked and rode straight across him. But that only fired Jan up more and he got his revenge by winning 13 & 15 in style. Jan's signing has been a breath of fresh air. Everyone loves him and he loves being at Lynn. Nailed on for a 2025 team spot. Niels has just been phenomenal these past couple of months. Been so consistent home and away and must surely be in the mix for a team spot next season. Thoght Anders acquitted himself very well for his first appearance in the top 5 and his career is only going one way. Sure to be in demand in 2025. Thought Lewi rode really well also. Great pass on Lawson in Heat 8 and chasing hard all night and Lambert chipped in with some valuable points as well. Great third place when he passed Sam Masters in Heat 7 to get the 4-2 to draw us level. Bomber just did typical Bomber things. Some awful gating but very quick once he got going. Brilliant pass on Douglas in Heat 6. Thanks to Norick for stepping in as well. Sure he'd be the first to admit the AFA isn't his favourite track but credit to him for taking the booking and looking to improve all the time. For Leicester, I guess they didn't need to put themselves out there, but they were nowhere as dominant as when they came last time. When they won the first four races, I thought we might be in for a long night but proud of how the Stars dug in and got the job done.

Would make zero sense not to. I’m personally not too sure this scheme will work for much longer. There isn’t a huge pool of riders good enough left with those who are graduating out of it. There’s going to be a huge disparity between the likes of Flint, and those left on the list who clubs will be forced to choose. I like the idea in theory, but we’ve got to the point now that if it proceeds, we’re likely to see a few of the rising stars half a lap behind everyone else. Nobody wants to see that surely.

Would love to see my club Leicester win the whole thing but like others have pointed out, the breaking of the rules of who rides who has taken excitment off for me. It just doesn't feel right to me . A little bit like the league cup in the football. It just doesn't make sense to me at all. Sheffield should be declared league winners and call it a day.

That will be because we anticipated it would be around 9:30, but was around 9:55 in the end which obviously we can’t count down to a time we don’t know. So apologies for the delay but it was always approximate depending on Eurosport and did go live at the very earliest opportunity 👍🏻

And you don't have to have overtaking to be a good race. (Rowe riding a perfect line in heat 10 to beat masters) Close racing and not too strung out in most heats and a close scoreline throughout. Dunno what it looked like on TV, but trackside, was a great match to finish on.... although slower due to TV cameras and number of restarts

There is a serious danger of a self perpetuating doom-loop scenario killing even more Clubs here. The avowed intent of the likes of Adrian Smith initially and then Phil Morris and very much supported by the likes of Rob Godfrey, was to have clear blue water between a televised Premier product and the Championship product. The logic being, its easier to sell both products when they are not blurred by the fact that 80% plus of the PL riders double down. The race by several CL Clubs to compete and pay money they cannot / could not afford is clear and it looked like we were beginning to see some clear blue water with a lowering of the CL limit, bringing in some sanity and a refusal to continue to pay PL heat leaders big guarantees to ride in the CL. It seems from this thread that the lunatics have regained control of the asylum; and if the CL limit rises again and the return/continuance of almost all CL teams looking like PL lite and running 40 point averages with one or two CL Clubs having 3 PL level heat leaders and others left with one or none, then the self flagellating doom loop starts all over again. This scenario killed a buoyant NDL circa 2017 - 2018. The root cause is the prehistoric belief that the UK can compete with Poland and the big fish mentality of some in the CL who can't or won't play in the big league because of the prhistoric belief UK PL has to race on a Monday and a Thursday, despite the fact that it now has no relevance as the POles do what they like and stick 2 fingers up to everyone. The are 2 simple options (1) Run the PL matches on a Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday; Thursday; Friday or Saturday and allow those CL teams who have the infrastructure to move up, to move up (2) Make the PL genuinely Elite by allowing far less doubling down of anyone with a PL average over 6 and turn the CL in to a League that is CL Lite and NDL rich bringing through the next generation. We are seeing elitism destroy football, it has half destroyed Rugby Union and is slowly eroding County Cricket. Clubs like Poole / Glasgow / Oxford should not have to be in the CL if they wish to be in the PL but only the race day obsession is preventing them. The Poles now race on a Tuesday / Thursday / Friday / Saturday / Sunday if it suits them, the Danes should no longer dictate what occurs on a Wednesday and very sadly Swedish Speedway is in an even more precarious position that the UK financially.

farcial for the sake of waiting 2 days to get the correct semi-finals !!

I rest my case

He's the captain. The reserves race wasn't going to restart with Dan still out on the track. He had time to check on an important member of his team. Stop making excuses for him. He has come up short at everything. Captain, team rider and points scorer. He was lucky to score 4 yesterday after holder made a mistake in his first ride.

I’m one of those, and I've decided against it. It’s effectively a dead rubber, and going yet again with rider replacement made the decision an easy one for me personally. I’ll put that 23 quid to better use this week.

Only since you've appeared!! School finished early??🤪

I previously tried to defend Phil Morris, but his performance to camera yesterday made it 100% clear Eurosport has dictated the playoff schedule. If this is put within the context of what he said in the recent podcast, the priority is now, by far, to please Eurosport, other broadcasters, and other sponsors. Doesn't seem like there's any option for anyone else, promoters, riders, supporters, except to accept that situation.

They might have more experience in Prague but have they in Pardubice ?? lol

I enjoyed this. Some good stuff at times. There are certain riders you look at and then look at their GSA and think “yeah that’s a bit of a cheat code”. Kvech on 6 and a half is one of those. Has a touch of class and looks an 8+ pointer all day long. Build a team over the winter with a couple of heatleaders above him, and that average will be upwardly mobile very quickly riding at 3/4. In comparison, King on 6.48, Kvech on 6.52. One would be an excellent signing for next year, the other not so much. Nothing against Danny btw, just pointing out that you have riders on near identical averages where one is clearly on the decline, whilst the other is heading in the opposite direction.

We have also missed Tai, he was our best rider away from home all season. Pickering has now hit his top form and I would have fancied us against Ipswich with Doyle and Emil over 2 legs with him in the team. All hindsight though we had the same last year losing Tai and Toby just before the play offs

Understatement of the year! Let’s have it right, Ipswich were a better side than Sheffield this year, the results between the clubs when both were at full strength proves that. The table before Emil joined Doyle on the sidelines also proves that. You’ll get some fans come on with “it’s not our fault we can only beat what’s put in front of us” or, “well that’s speedway injuries can happen”, you’ll always get supporters who are desperate for silverware and couldn’t care less how they get it. But the fact is, the injuries to Ipswich haven’t just spoiled it for Ipswich, they’ve spoiled it for everyone else because the clubs that lift the pots will know it’s a hollow victory. Surely as a fan you want to take on your opponents at their strongest so you know any victory would be fully deserved? No excuses can be made by the losing team, won fair and square. Yes injuries do happen of course they do, but losing not one but two 9.5 pointers is bonkers.

Lynn will be running 100% and team plans already well underway.

Have watched the re-run no problem.It transfers down to meetings already shown on BSN as usual don’t think BSN got anything wrong just you.

Well done to the Stars. 5 wins on the spin with a severely patched up side.

Enjoyed that match some decent races - not for the first time you can’t help but wonder if KL could stop sodding about for half the season they could actually be contenders one time!

Not bad for a team that was written off at the start of the season 😆

Speedway out of the top drawer. Smashing meeting, although Leicester will be worried about momentarily losing momentum going into the business end of the season ….

Kingy did appear to shut off a fraction early allowing Edwards to pip him on the line... which is unforgivable really.

Think everyone is just demoralised and had enough tbf. We could see it and hear it from King during his recent interviews, and it must have got to the promotion as well. The injuries can’t be helped it’s just one of those things. They’d probably like to shut up shop right now if they could! Just get these last few meetings done and then go and again next year.

To be fair to King, he was in the following heat so was probably already preparing when the crash happened. It was also at the furthest point on the track from the pits so he would have taken a long time to get there and back. Ellis hadn't raced at that point, and wasn't due out till heat 4, so he was the logical 'buddy' to send out to Thompson.

Rider replacement for Doyle on Thursday ensures that any slim chance we had has now gone. A season that promised so much even after losing Doyle now seems to be imploding & it seems like the white flag has been raised.

Wrong. Then he’s another who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow! Is it any wonder your team always end up scrapping for the dregs every winter when you spend half of it chasing ineligible riders? “Clubs are automatically permitted to retain their existing Rising Star for the following season should they meet the criteria” Flint meets the criteria therefore he’ll be at Birmingham. Jenkins isn’t an option either. Once you’ve graduated out of the rising star scheme you can’t drop back in it despite his average now dropping below the 4.00 mark.

I think maybe the BSPL need to dismiss him asap, before the NFL's lawyers get to work. It may just save their bacon, but even if they do it, they're now vulnerable.

a lot of people think that because rider B fenced rider A and it is clear as day in their memory, they classify that rider B as a dirty rider....now it may be just a case of where rider A had fenced or been over hard on rider B at some during their career....some riders have very long memories or even a notebook in the tool box....old saying of what goes around comes around. Mike Sampson, Matousek, Nicki and Ronni Pedersen, Phil and Jason Crump, Gollob and all the riders listed on this discussion can/could be hard when the time was right.... However there are many riders you wouldn't go round the outside of

Yes BSN are streaming this meeting.

Its not just about choosing another racenight. Some clubs are restricted by Stadium landlords and other activities eg greyhounds, other motorsports!!! How would Ipswich and Sheffield fare for example?

I thought that was one of the better televised meetings this year. I actually managed to sit through it which is a rarity nowadays, despite the usual commentary howlers (e.g. Chris Harris never fails to disappoint!)

1 R.Lambert 2 Iversen 3 Kvech 4 Basso 5 Lawson 6 Rowe 7 Jenkins/Flint I’d love to see the Stars go for something like that next year!

Neither the NFL nor The NCAA changed anything which PH was less than accurate in stating. The truth is that TV requested the dates to be fixed for the playoffs before the season had finished. Just difficult to understand why this was not stated from the outset. So much for clearer communication to the fans!

Pay not attention. This is a forum; opinions are voiced and views are exchanged, regardless of the number of posts someone has. Personally, I think it’s a thought-provoking topic and for that reason, I’ll throw in a few more. Jan Pedersen (Arena Essex), Charles Wright, Frede Schött, Nicki Pedersen, Ace Pijper and again, due to the fact he’s the worst I’ve seen, Andre Compton. Disclaimer: I don’t believe anyone intentionally tries to hurt other riders.

Danny King is basically Ippo's version of Casemiro at this point.

I thought it was a brave effort overall but it was never gonna be enough There is one teeny weeny chance - make Foxhall deep wet and rough and roll the dice. It won't be pretty but then again it won't be a classic whatever!

What was Morris going on about saying the NFL did the same last year in their playoffs as British Speedway are doing this year? Totally incorrect & misleading.

So. It is going to be Sheffield v Ipswich and Leicester v Belle Vue in the play offs... Well done Sheffield on finishing top... Can't wait... It will be brilliant...

Jesus what do people expect from King? Lidsey and Brennan score 13 between them and Doyle and Emil let’s say got 20 and it’s a 6 point loss and everyone would have been happy King isn’t a heat leader at this level and he wasn’t signed to be one he was signed to get 7 or 8 a meeting along with Ellis so is anyone going to have pop at Ellis as well …. And reserves do beat higher ranked riders especially at home …. Jenkins beat Bewley the other week and Dan T has beat Janowski and also Harris this season to name but two

So different to last year then when Sheffield lost first Holder, then his replacement Woffinden before the KO Cup Final, followed by losing Musielak for the play offs ? Injuries are part of speedway. Yes Ipswich have been unlucky this season, but the fact still remains that Doyle announced his season was over in June. We all know you couldn't find an equal replacement, but surely bringing in a slightly lesser rider amd integrating him into the team would have been better than bumbling along for most of the season with guests and R/R ?

To me the rider that will be the difference will be Luke Becker, had a poor start to the season and was being heavily criticised but not now. He has turned his form around.

No, I dont, they are all NDL level , some are more experienced than others , thats all, they are all in that league and have to race each other so no handicap required.

I think there's every chance if 3 of the 4 clubs agreed to it, they would announce it was a majority decision. But I just can't get over the fact that rules are meaningless, if clubs can just agree to not use them? What of Ipswich agreed to Sheffield using Harris if Sheffield agreed to them using Lambert, if they both agreed would that be allowed?

My thoughts are... Sheffield are currently top and should be playing 4th place Ipswich in the pay off semi-finals 😕

I would say Puk,klindt, kvech and Rowe.

Obviously you don’t watch Poland ??- ie illegally

Jye on a sub 5 average from the start of September, bargain for next season that…