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Title favourites? How do you work that out? The maximum amount of points Belle Vue can get is 16.... Leicester already have 13 with four matches left. If the Lion Cubs can't pick up three points from those matches, it'll be a miracle.

I love the way British speedway more or less shuts down in the Summer as they are worried that crowds will be low… then reschedule for October when it’s so cold only 4 men and a dog show up and it gets called off at heat 10. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Think it’s fair to say all is not well at KL there has been dodgy call offs in fact very dodgy but bit harsh wanting KL expelled from the league I’d have thought losing any club is the last thing the sport needs .

They should bin the TV if they can't actually be brave enough to carry on as normal. No issues with the weather last night, meeting should've run.

I'm struggling to see why Poole should have any facility if it's a pre arranged fixture and a rider is choosing to be elsewhere.

If you go back to page 1 and come forward 67 pages you will then be able to answer your own question lol It has been discussed ad nauseam

iainb is right. Everything he stated in the post that you quoted is a fact.

You can't always rely on the weather,but you can always rely on Haza posting a negative comment

Obviously not according to Lynnboy who lives very much nearer to the Lynn track than you.It may have been able to be run in Lincolnshire.It did rain here in Wisbech at about 4pm for a couple hrs and stopped a while then started again about 8pm.Rain moves in mysterious ways.

https://ipswichwitches.co/raceday-preview-leicester-rowe-motor-oil-premiership-r2-a/ Nicholls in for Doyle no surprises there, but what IS a surprise and a good one from an Ipswich point of view, Dan Thompson isn’t yet ruled out which means the injury isn’t as bad as first feared. That is absolutely massive for our chances at the business end of the season.

Drew Kemp in for Dan Thompson

So you feel sorry for the King's Lynn fans, but want Buster chucked out.So where does that leave King's Lynn Speedway with no Buster.No Speedway imo,so not really feeling sorry for the Lynn fans.

Well done GB, fantastic Bewley.

Makes sense for Cairns, best track in the country, guaranteed spot for next season so no need to worry about averages AND not signing for Leicester means his Dad can be in the pits at his meetings and focus on being promotor when Leicester are running. William looks as promising as Luke Harrison did during his 'breakthrough' period and if he follows on he will be doing alright. Probably the most positive footnote is Belle Vues intention to run in the NDL next season, i just hope there is enough quality in the league to challenge Cairns. and other emerging riders.

And that's just the team

An away defeat won't hurt Poole in the slightest so why not use r/r and give your own riders extra races!

Ah, too many fixtures - or too many teams in the league :-) :-)

No it isn’t, there is nothing in a speedway engine today that wasn’t in a 1930s one the materials are better, unlike other sports which are much vastly more expensive using injection systems and ECUs but as I’ve been banging on for years speedway doesn’t need half the BS that riders use today like the karger ignition which put the price up for no gain for the sport and then the expect the fan to pay for it, on the SON something is only worth as much as folk are prepared to pay for it and clearly the crowd showed it wasn’t worth what discovery think it’s worth, a good indication worth’s at the moment was the speedway auction at Ledbury last week, a lot of the bikes didn’t fetch half what they are worth and this is the case for classic cars too. Speedway needs a reality check to where it stands in society. The SON was despite the weather an exiting well run event and imo was the best sporting event in this country this year but such a shame that nobody saw it

As happens many times in speedway, rule A will be thought up to avoid a certain situation occuring, then a new flaw will occur because of rule A, so rule B is added. This continues till everyone is confused & no one is totally sure of the rules anymore.

100% agree, having Dan back back for the play-offs has to be priority. No point coming back 50% fit and aggravating his injury.

In Denmark league they not allowed to drop tear offs now due to environmental laws. So the tear offs and threaded on that yellow wire so when they pull it off it is retained. Not sure if this means for the GP there all riders will have to have it?

Maybe rest of team could be like Richard lawson and look after their average for next season

That is true, buster wants nothing to do with speedway anymore, however he is totally unrealistic with his valuations of things, I’m sure he will charge extortionate rent and then there is buying the license off him etc …the panthers consortium know how hard that is, apparently he wanted to charge them way more than what the bspa said it was worth?

You cannot now replace an injured team member as you could in 2022. BSPL prefer guests from the lower teams/division.

so do the fans have to pay 100 quid or so extra at next home meeting to cover signing on fees and such like

Wasn’t that always the case as per the Statement by the BSPL? Lynn had until the 14th and then it was either a replacement or up to 75% of his average? Or maybe that was someone on here that came up with that I honestly can’t remember.

Why should Poole suffer, the Redcar fixture was announced when the fixtures were released

It is a re-arranged fixture, was originally down as Round 7 on 1st June. Was then cancelled on 22nd June and this is the 3rd restaging. The reason why is probably because it's still a Poland re-staging priority day

That Poland feel they can do what they want & no one has been able to challenge them!

They know deep down, Proof's in the pudding. KL fans want a return to the Championship because even they're fed up of seeing patched up 1-7's being put on track at Premiership level every week which has gotten a lot worse over the last two years, Injuries can on be blamed for a part of it but that's got nothing to do with the Pickering and Musielak dramas over the last two seasons. Points deduction speaks for itself when it comes to running Home meetings so that's not even debateable. I've seen various clubs try and force meetings through on BSN this year with forecasts that weren't great (Brum vs. Oxford as well as Oxford vs. Ipswich) therefore no excuse is acceptable for someone who simply won't even give the weather forecast a chance to change before calling meetings off (Buster)

100%, I'm going to hand all of my posting duties over to you! No doubt, Lynn fans will argue that other teams do points 1, 2 or 3 but the difference is King's Lynn do 1,2 & 3. They not only mess other teams around but both fans of King's Lynn and visiting teams, who will also have made arrangements to attend etc. If they can't run a team in a home and away league programme, which they clearly can't, they should be expelled and concentrate on getting their own house in order with open meetings etc. And try and build up a fan base again before being allowed to return. If King's Lynn do not return to PL racing next year, it pains me to say it as I've spent many happy evenings at Saddlebow Road, nobody outside of King's Lynn would miss them.

Yes, Breaking IainB's post down here....I don't see how anyone can say he's wrong in what he has said. 1. They can't assemble a team (This is true because riders walk out of KL every season for various reasons, Recent examples Pickering, Jakobsen, Musielak, Tarasenko) 2. Effecting every other team in the league with their shenanigans (This is also true, Hence the reason why they've been deducted points whilst other clubs like Ipswich and Sheffield have gone vocal on social media with digs at the way KL operate. Literally no other club buys into the excuses and they want to get these meetings on as they've all got different targets that they want to reach) 3. They're bringing the whole sports down in this country (This is also true as well, The riders know this as well hence why barely anyone wanted to ride for Buster's Panthers last year as well as Tobi walking out this year, Various dodgy call offs whether it's due to KL not being able to put together a competitive team or a broken pit gate excuse as well as a straight up refusal to run meetings with a forecast that isn't perfect is all bringing the sport down, The weather forecast is very rarely going to play ball because it's British weather after all therefore Buster has to get these meetings on now)

Said in the star will probably use guests to cover for Tate

Probably because all of the Leicester team are doing well. I've gotta give credit to Leicester here for not dropping anyone.

Assuming there's no rain offs, after the Poole home meeting on 27th July 75% of fixtures will be complete so there can be no team changes. Assuming this means we don't have to replace Tate as the 28 day facility will run out and an extension can be applied for which you would think would be granted, who knows with the BSPL! Having a guest every meeting makes us stronger than actually signing someone IMO, currently the likes of Howarth, Danny King and Sedgman can all guest at No.2 at Home

Maybe that is what you should have posted.When I post something about the weather I would normally put where I am currently.I remember going once,and all the way to pullover roundabout it was hammering down,then all of a sudden it stopped raining and the roads were bone dry for the last few hundred yards. Last week out on my travels,the side of the road I was on was wet ,the other side dry.The rain has to stop somewhere,even in the UK

Monday 4th October 2010. Poole v Coventry. Play Off Final. 2nd Leg. Chris Harris Man-of-Steel. Nuff said!

I followed wolves everywhere until I started riding in 93 then obviously things changed but I still went pretty much wolves every week,I live 2 miles from track, then after I retired I spannered for skornicki so was going everywhere with wolves again,,I can’t really believe monmore is no more and sad to say there isn’t a light at the end of the tunnel regarding wolves at the moment, I’ve only been to 4 meetings this year 2 at BV 1at Workington and 1at Isle of Wight

1993,'Wolverhampton v Belle Vue... Wolves needed a draw, and the Aces needed the win to be Champions.. No play offs then, just a league that ended with the top team winning.... The Aces were 8 points down, with only a few races left, and only that win on the night would do... The four of us there that night all agreed to watch one more race and then get out quickly, so we didn't have to watch the mullet headed Wolves fans (in all their 70's denim clothes), celebrate... Then the Aces got a 0-5.. Then suddenly a couple of races later, were one point up, with just one race left .. And then Bobby Ott flew from the tapes, with Jason Lyons riding shotgun, whilst Peter Karlsson did his best to spear him at the end of every straight, eventually doing so, lap 3, which let Henka Gustafsson through too... But neither could catch "Bob".... There must easily have been 800 and more Aces fans there that night (how times change), and the lady in the " Wolves Megastore" was particularly unimpressed when, as we finally left, I asked her if she had any "Wolves 1993 Champions" car stickers.. I think her face, and the pile of unopened boxes behind the wallpaper paste table used as a "display", told me the answer...... Big crowd, great atmosphere, and the right result... Just like the other night at the SON....

They wouldn’t sack him as he is an up and coming rider who would be picked up by a rival club straight away. Threats from different countries should not allow federation rules to be broken, regardless of money. His Polish team would have known about the clash at the start of the season. As a Brit, a 30 day ban should be the order of the day for withholding his services. Harsh but stops young riders chasing the money rather than the team he should be riding for.

Looking at a few weather sites most are showing virtually no rain until around 21.00. Shame really but it is what it is. I am not sure what the answer is but given what was witnessed at the NSS, who is really calling the shots, the riders or the promoters? As a general point it cannot do any favours to the stadium owners either. What would you rather have as an owner, weekly stocks/bangers when you not only get rent but food/drink and parking or speedway with sixteen dates unless you make it all the way in cup and league with just income from food and drink over possibly seven months. If I were an owner I know what I would opt for and make the facility work for itself. From a supporters point of view, the stop start fixture list (not talking about postponements) cannot help with punters finding other things to do and simply no longer bothering. The tribal followers of a team have probably long gone together with the previous weekly fix that use to be the norm. All very sad.

He will end up at belle vue in the NL just because of the track and will be a Leicester asset also can see him being in Poland u24 league next year when he turns 16

Connor Bailey has posted that he is out for the rest of the season, as 1 of his sponsors I wish him a full recovery, it takes guts to admit to struggling

Rosco is the man Brummies need. You'd have to let him build the team though otherwise he wouldn't be interested

Speedway is cheap in the uk IMO We just been away to “the seaside”. We enjoyed an ice cream cone each, just a single blob. It was very nice (cherry flavour with slices of cherry too). £9 for the two (and kept an eye on the seagulls). Stayed a few night in a 7 bedroomed B&B, nothing cheaper than £75 per night, we paid £100 per night and was very happy, lovely place. Snack lunch in a corner cafe near the seafront, just a panini and fresh salad, very nice, cup of coffee each after. £28 for two. It’s today’s cost of enjoying yourself on a break. (I also got a £25 fixed price car park ticket that I appealed against and won). Today, speedway tracks are closing down, have been for a long time, some due to environmental issues, or land development, but some because not enough money is being made to make a track a viable proposition. Up go the prices a quid or two and “foul” is shouted by the fans. Speedway is a technical motorised sport, and costly to compete, riders travelling hundreds of miles each week, often this means it’s there only means of making a living. Lots of costs associated with running a stadium. All needs to be paid for, if the fans don’t/wont the track closes down. There are those on here today who remember Wembley in the 60’s/70’s with a 80,000+ crowd. That was then, 50 or 60 years ago! 50 or 60 years ago. At times I can’t get used to today’s prices when compared to how things were in the good ole days, but life has moved on. I’m careful what I spend money on, but sometimes get caught “by the moment” and buy something I later wish I hadn’t. That’s how it goes sometimes. As for today, I can’t afford, nor do I want to travel 65 miles return to watch Belle Vue. I cannot afford all the subscription channels that may show all I want to watch. So I am happy to pay for a sub channel that gives me all the GP’s, events such as SON, British championship, some British league matches and a few others such as world championship Challenge. That cost me about the same as 4 admission prices to British Premiere league matches (for one person). Would be nice to be there in person, but apart from costs as a pensioner there’s the other reason of me or the wife not always feeling too good.

Also working for the Sun he may have sold his morals away. For me I don't have an issue with the photos, it was the timing that they were published. They could have waited until Tate was at least off the track and he had given the go ahead for them to be used.

Rather not hand pick guests for the duration to be honest. We need to get a rider in, get him a team suit and crack on with a proper Witches 1-7 again.

From Tates Facebook sounds a horrific injury but seems to be in good spirits get well soon Tate Update After a tough first week I am doing a lot better now. I have been up on my feet doing a little bit of walking. The doctors are very happy with my progress and I hope to be out of hospital by the end of this week. Also another injury added to the list I have torn my Gracilis mussel off my pelvis but they have said it won't need surgery and should heal on its own and be back to normal in a few months. Obviously still in quite a bit of pain but feel like I’m getting stronger every day. When I am released from hospital I will need to come in every 2 days until the doctors are confident we can clean and change the dressings ourselves. Then we come back for the 6 week check up. Hopefully by then I will get the all clear and I will be able to sit on my ass for the 20+ hour flight back home to Australia. Thank you to everyone for your messages and thanks again for those who have come up to visit me. Getting the news there is going to be NO long term damage is a relief … bring on next season. Doctors report 6,7,8,9 left lateral rib fracture - will heal by themselves Fractures of the spine T5 T6 T7 T8 T9 bottom of the rib cage -they are compressed however the ribs will brace them and hold them in place so they would expect they will heal perfectly fine L2 L3 L4 lumber part of the spine wings on the side are broken off - will heal by themselves with time No damage to the spinal cord thankfully Where the Chain adjuster went into his left cheek ( buttocks) -Doctors said you actually got quite lucky it only went through the subcontainious tissues without involving the muscles. The exit wound has been stitched shut The main concern is making sure the large entry wound doesn't get infected as it heals. This will take the longest to heal as we would like it to heal on its own. The latest MR scan of the pelvis showed up a couple of aductor muscles have been torn at the pelvis they are the muscles that bring your legs together these are subtotal (like a very nasty sprain) and they will heal up in time The worrying one or most damage was done to the Gricillus muscle It is torn through and through and totally torn off of the pelvis the TNO surgeon said they won’t operate at this point. They may want to go in and rejoin it but he thinks it’s highly unlikely

10.10.77 Ellesmere Port: Stadium Scurry 1st Louis Carr (72.4) 2nd Neil Coddington 3rd Robin Dixon (Three riders only) Rider of the night Heat 1: 1st Tom Owen (70.2) 2nd Robin Dixon (73.3) 3rd Duncan Meredith 4th Nigel Crabtree Heat 2: 1st Phil Collins (71.6) 2nd Chris Prime (74.0) 3rd Robin Dixon 4th Terry Logan Heat 3: 1st Robbie Blackadder (72.0) 2nd Steve Finch (73.6) 3rd Nigel Crabtree 4th Robin Dixon. Reserves Race: 1st Dave Mortiboys 2nd Robert Maxfield 3rd Chris Prime 4th Terry Logan Rider of the Night Final: 1st Robbie Blackadder (71.8) 2nd Tom Owen 3rd Phil Collins 4th Steve Finch.