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Then you’re expecting too much. Doesn’t matter how many years he’s been here, he’ll still get 5-oned occasionally because that’s the calibre of rider he is. He’s inconsistent and always has been, just like the majority of riders. He’ll have some very good meetings, and some stinkers. Cast your mind back 12 months, there were more than one on here that wanted King replaced by Ellis as they were on very similar averages, check the old 2023 thread. King this year actually upped his average by a point, whilst Ellis dropped nearly a point off his! Good job the promotion didn’t listen. Delighted we’ve got Ellis this time around, because of that poor year he’s now a very shrewd signing. I do think riders can stay at one club too long and I wouldn’t have been against King having a fresh start elsewhere. I’ve definitely noticed a few growing groans on the terraces whenever King gets passed, that other riders don’t seem to get when it happens to them which is a shame considering the great service he’s given us. Think we’ve got to the point where he’d probably be appreciated more elsewhere than he is here.

It only worked when they were able to sign another heat leader in place of a second string, wouldn’t have won the league with Nowak

From Cllr Julie Stevenson of Orton Waterville (27/11/23) - on Facebook: IMPORTANT NEWS: SAVE PETERBOROUGH SPEEDWAY As part of the ongoing effort to protect Peterborough’s speedway track and team (Peterborough Panthers), Orton Waterville Parish Council is to debate whether it is in the public interest to register the track as an Asset of Community Value (ACV). If the parish council votes in favour of initiating the ACV registration process, it may put a halt to any intentions to destroy the speedway track. What is an ACV? The Localism Act of 2011 created a provision that allows ‘defined community groups’, such as parish councils, to ask their local authority to list assets that meet the relevant criteria as being of ‘community value’. The Localism Act defines an asset of community value if: Its actual or current use (or there is a time in the recent past when its use) furthers the social wellbeing or social interests of the local community, and It is realistic to think that there can continue to be (or it is realistic to think that there is a time in the next five years) non-ancillary use of the asset that would further the social wellbeing or social interests of the local community. The debate will take place between members of the parish council during a meeting of Orton Waterville parish council on Wednesday 29th November 2023. If the decision is taken to register the track as an ACV, the next step will be for the parish council to ask Peterborough City Council to initiate the registration process.

Probably no more or no less than every other third heatleader. He’s a 7/7.5 point rider, same as Douglas, Steve Worrall, Becker, Iversen, Klindt, etc etc. King will again be on the wrong end of a few 1-5’s, and so will all those others in the same average bracket. If they didn’t, they’d be 9 point riders instead of 7 point riders, which they ain’t! Not sure what some people are expecting. King gets unfair criticism in my opinion.

Very often, when a speedway promotion say 'we are taking a year out', it's the end. I can't see how speedway in the next 12 months, as a whole, is going to turn things around, for a promoter to say 'now is the time to run a team'. All very sad. Unfortunately, I said many years ago that speedway had to change and the costs were too high for those involved, but time after time (on here), I was told I was being negative. No, I was being realistic. The riders and the tuners have killed a sport, which at best, should have been, for many years, a semi-professional sport or even better, an amateur sport. Speedway will survive, but team/league racing will disappear in Britain, in my opinion.

A few facts. Sorry it is long, but I feel we are at or near an important crossroads and need to concentrate on the real enemy. The showground is probably worth about £1.3m as agricultural land. If planning permission was granted for the whole site it would be worth about £20m. The speedway site was in the area called “Land A” and that is about one third and could hold the 650 houses in the plan 23/00412/OUT. That land area represents a current value of around £400K as farm land and would have a value with full planning of about £8-10m before a brick is even laid. The Land 2 area is not likely to be worth much more than that because it would have schools and more of the support activities like the mini golf course, an unnecessary hotel and the overload 800 houses that are not required to meet the current city plans. AEPG is a one-man band that came into being in early 2021. Three subordinate companies were also formed around the same time from scratch.. AEP Residential AEP Land AEP Arena All four have one Director (no surprise who), one share of £1 and one employee Butterfield also took over the showground operating company off the Agricultural Society called East of England Showground Services Ltd. That company appears to be currently funded by the unplanned DPD contract now there are no events to provide any money for AEPG. The Access Earning Planning Group (clue of their business aims is in the name) has one project with one aim to get planning permission for 650 homes, sell the up-priced land with it’s planning permissions to a building developer, move onto Land B with some of the profit and get planning permission for as much else as possible. Be assured that none of those AEP companies is not going to build a single thing. The phase one master plan was to get planning permission for at least the 650 homes signed up by March 2024 in time for the next round of annual company reports and have it sold off to a Bodgit and Scarper to build the houses. Hence the need to remove the speedway to enable completion of the land sale ownership change before the start of the 2024 season, as AEPG has spelled out! The latest publicity stunt on affordable homes shows how detached with reality Butterfield is. The mix of unaffordable so-called affordable homes ( social housing to the rest of us) is likely to be changed as the builder submits variations to reduce their numbers because he couldn’t sell them. - it happened round here when a developer requested a change half-way through the estate build to reduce the number of affordable homes and was allowed to reduce the percentage to half overall by not building any more in the second half of the build! The critically weak points in the plan are to do with timing and content. Borrowing costs are mounting and the March deadline is looking unlikely to be met– they need a Plan B. The Land B development will not provide the necessary infrastructure or much more free money. Add the fact that the PCC planners realise, possibly as a result of all the objections to the plan by local and regional fans of the showground who coalesced around the emotion from speedway fans, that the showground is too much of a Peterborough institution to allow it to effectively be destroyed. As the PCC document points out, the current plans were going to effectively totally destroy the essence of the showground and replace it with a lump of houses plus schools, nurseries, medics, a load of infrastructure, poncy pretend pseudo-sporty stuff and that unnecessary hotel. The plan is fatally flawed. Whether a chancer from the outer reaches of West London is ever going to understand the power of local knowledge and emotion is unlikely. It is now either back to the drawing board or try this particular "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" scheme somewhere else with the wreckage of this one. The further away the better.

Just thought I'd pop over to take a look at the current state of affairs on here after a long hiatus. This place never fails to mystify myself and a number of my colleagues who no longer post. Here we have a saint of a man in Nigel Tolley who is prepared to go to extraordinary lengths in his attempts to keep our beloved sport alive in the second city and all that the majority on here can do is belittle his attempts, rubbish his decisions and generally decry him. I know its not everyone but there seems to be scant genuine support for him. He is assisting the rest of the UK speedway world in trying to bolster the flailing Premiership. Its all very well Sheffield trying to buy the title by grabbing the big guns before anyone else can get them but what are they actually achieving in finishing top of a 6 team pile, particularly if a couple of those teams are relatively weak and fail to see out the season. Once again it seems that the powers that be can see no further than their collective noses. I dont know why anyone bothers to pump their hard earned cash into these ventures, one can only hope that Nigel and others like him do not bother to read the bile that exudes from this site.

We quit because we knew the other two couldn't get it organised and didn't want to be part of a farce!

Sedgmen rode for Redcar back in 2012. His attitude back then was lousy. Has guested for us. Would never don a Bears race jacket ever again. If I had a say in the matter.

Would 100% take Jenkins

4.16 left. Jenkins fits with British reduction..

Top one. 4.16 left I think after reductions for King and Ellis. Think we’d miss King’s Foxhall scoring if he wasn’t in personally. King and Ellis in the engine room at 3 and 4 has heat advantages written all over it around Foxhall. With Emil and Doyle taking care of things at 1 and 5, it’s a very good side. In the mix for sure.

What we're you expecting, him to wear 2024 Lynn kevlars that still haven't been made?

NKI in his Panthers racesuit in the photos. No shame at all

Delighted with that one. We needed an average improver in the team, and we’ve potentially got a very good one.

The whole team are good signings. Definitely not a wooden spoon contender this year

Quite happy with that.Niels being in the middle order,and Rowe showed us what he can do as a rising star.

The last few posts sum up what's crazy about British speedway

Let’s not forget Boughen’s last few rides at Peterborough and Redcar. Peterborough beating Scotty, Leon flint and just missing out on the win after battling hard with Lewi Kerr. redcar beating , winning and passed against Danny king and Blodern in one race. And another race he was beating other premiership riders. scoring 2 points at Sheffield and lead one of his races getting passed by worrel to finish 2nd. That was a few days after his 16th birthday. That’s all within 1 year of racing speedway and 1 month of turning 16 going champ & prem. Going by this video he’s more than capable!

I've recently acquired Alan Wilkinson's book and I have to say that it's truly inspirational. Alan and Jean (now both sadly no longer with us) were two very remarkable people.

Leicester running 4 teams or something and to a 45 point average?

4.16 ... as stated on here, Jenkins would be a decent signing. He would have to start in the team - even so, a major improvement on Hume.

Just announced Sam Hagon as next signing.

Posted above Bens interview on the Glasgow website.

Interview with Ben below on why he won’t be riding Championship next season. Although he may ride championship at some stage but going by his interview it’s a big if. He admits it was down to the burden of travelling and bidding to progress in Poland as the reason for not riding in the Championship next season. He added: “The only reason I’m not riding in the Championship next year is because it’s time to move on. “It’s been too tough travelling so much. It was OK in the beginning but at the end of the season, it didn’t do me any good. Not enough sleeping, I could feel it in my performances as well midway through the year. “I’m only going to ride in one league in the UK next year to help with the travelling. “If I have time and it’s possible, I can still do Championship at some stage. “For me it’s just about leaving the club in a good way. I really have enjoyed my time at Glasgow.”

He has stated he will not be riding championship in the UK on the Glasgow website. He said that it was too much with all his other commitments.

Not quite true from what I’ve heard.

Absolutely not

Incorrect.

Early the year after, I believe.

Excellent summary so thank you. Just add to it, the Agricultural Society appears to have transferred all the shares of EESS Ltd to AEPG who will then repay the Agricultural Society from the money raised when Phase 1 goes through and money starts coming in. It seems to me that EAAS have been taken in by this "crook".

Form?………His attitude is far more concerning than his form……does my box in.

One of the bizarre parts of being a Speedway fan, calling a rider a good signing because he had a poor season lol! Also dropping a rider because they did well (sadly).

Not to mention racing for experience, to develop as riders. Probably a fault if lower level speedway is riders assuming because they can ride a bike, they should be paid for it? I know it's an expensive sport, but they can treat it like free practice / an apprenticeship, rather than a paying job.

The last month Danny yes but how many 5-1s was he on the wrong end of last season at home? Can't blame his partners hes done enough laps round there not to be beaten by some mediocre riders

Because both are probably on the way down and aint getting any better. Sedgmen rode for Plymouth a few season ago and his attitude was diabolical. Clearly doesn't like the track or the club. I hope we don't go near either to be honest, want big money for mediocre on track performances. I'd rather take a 6 pointer on the way up every day of the week.

Absolutely the merits of the development have been shown to be flawed with affordable tick box houses in the wrong place. Everything BE tried to do was deflection. As others have mused on here I’m confident the houses will be refused again but what that leads to is another story. I reckon SCS should get Phil Morris to sum up tomorrow I reckon he is still up for a bundle with BE. up the Bees

Don't worry, you've probably seen the last of that competition!

Depends what team you are what his average is.

Not much between them but probably be a good idea for Tom to have a fresh start somewhere else, his progression has stalled slightly in the last 18 months.

I think had this discussion earlier somewhere, that's what cleggs average has been since signed with Edinburgh (dunno if in the program or something keeps coming up). As you say he's 4.21 as per final averages on bspl website

He was pictured in the press last week attending a homeless charity! Why I don’t know, maybe something to do with affordable homes. Luckily the reporter knew of him and refused to interview him, as hard as he may have tried to get interviewed. Tinpot.

And clearly states Peterborough speedway is fit for purpose

Maybe he's on a big brown envelope promise, but has seriously underestimated those that have real passion for the club...

Yet he's not being held to account, surely he's as culpable as Butterfield

Because he doesn’t care & doesn’t want to promote Peterborough speedway. The ridiculous part of all this is had he put some effort in last winter or earlier this year to find out all that now come out about AEPG he may have found it easier to sell the club as undoubtedly Speedway could have continued at the showground

Has KK been mentioned yet....?? Maybe

I think both Drymls have retired.

For me yes, already waiting to get a season ticket. After many years of only one or two meetings a season