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Wasting your breath if it was black they would swear it was white. But Kings puncture must have been a worse puncture than Bombers.

I'm referring to the recent teams and tracks at both clubs. For some reason both tracks have become abysmal when they were the best race tracks in the country at one stage.

like lambert for saying how it is.

That's one small way in which BSN is so much of a better watch than the always-on-message Eurosport.

A reduced facility - so more of a molehill really (I'll get my coat )

Gutted! Don't know when I'm going to get to see Connor Mountain again

Bloody hell does it matter that was last season. It's all square for this one .

Well it is relevant to me. I was looking forward to seeing Tai at BP tomorrow (actually today). I didn't question Emil's commitment to British speedway when he came to BP, I just sat back and looked on in awe. Each meeting is an event. Enjoy it for what it is. You seem to suggest that a rider has to be fully committed to our national sport for his appearances to mean something. That is, with respect, a rather outdated concept. Are the foreign riders participating in the Polish leagues "committed" to Polish speedway? I think the pay cheques out there might have more to do with it. There are riders. There are meetings / races. Enjoy one taking part in the other and be thankful that sometimes you see something quite memorable. The fact that Tai is British, the fact that some believe his loyalties are more Australian, are all meaningless. We can claim him as ours when he rides for GB but otherwise he is no more or less "valid" as a participant in "our" leagues than Max, NKI, or any other rider, foreign or carrying a British passport.

Cheaper than proper shale, and anything buster is involved in will always involve saving money wherever he can at whatever cost.

He's not wrong.

My heart rate is up at 150 now just talking to you

Wolves like every track has had prep issues. Odd comment about tracks because he has been very vocal about UK tracks being poorly prepared and of course we have had the tyre gate issue at Peterborough and Pedersen didn’t even last a lap before being injured. Clearly the offer and timing suits him so he seems happy to skirt over that issue.

Trying your upmost to get meetings on is commendable and I appreciate the being restricted to Wedneadays situation, but there is a reason clubs call meetings off early nowadays, its to give supporters clarity and prevent that nightmare situation where folk are standing on a terrace watching a tractor go round with little or no hope of racing. I would also say that having done it myself many times in the past, if you travel to a speedway meeting and the forecast isn't great then you know that risk when you decide to go.

Slightly off topic but of all the so called big hitters (GP riders or not) coming back to the UK this year, Emil is the one that stands out. His attitude and commitment makes me proud to be associated with this sport and is a joy to watch. Just wish he’d stop winning so many bloody races at Leicester though!

Looked like two chains he shed which is unusual , this was the expert opinion of Adam Roynon though, so it was probably two blown engines.

There just rubbish

I’m surprised it took yo so long to bite. You were always going too though, you can’t help yourself.

Ha Ha! .... 11 of your last 14 posts have either been in the PL or CL sections!

Adam Roynon just said on BSN in the build up to tonight's meeting that the material used on the track at Kings Lynn & Peterborough is rubbish. So there you have it.

Was in the Sheffield team in 1968 when i first started going, passed his best but could still put in a good performance

Now thats sorted you can continue with your knitting what you knitting a Pooleover

Undoubtedly without Len Rye House would have ceased to exist years ago. What his critics don’t realise is that his “budget “ was the profit from his Silver Ski business that paid for his purchase of the track and balancing the books on the running of his loss making speedway team. There would be no Rye House without Len undoubtedly. Before that he worked extremely hard, “ above and beyond “ to keep the crowds coming to Hackney. Far more than most promoters would do. Speedway owes him a lot. With his organisational talent he could certainly have been a wealthier man if he never got involved with Speedway promotion. I think he became a big old school in his presentations in the later years but that’s hardly a big deal. As for Boxall and Doyle I don’t think back in the days when Doyle was a reserve at Poole that many people would put money on him becoming world champion. On the other hand I think Boxall really was was one of speedways lost talents. He had great natural ability on very poor and unreliable machinery and could have been a pretty decent rider had it not been for an unfortunate combination of injuries mechanical problems, lack of sponsorship/funding, and mental attitude. He just needed someone to get him to focus more, but in terms of natural ability he was very good.

Great ! No rain offs either

I would say tracks are generally better prepared now that they was a few years ago which is what Woffy was saying. that riders he’s spoke to said the track are much better prepared now. but like pottering said. That’s because majority are big tracks now

I think he means Sheffield have a very good sponsor that will pay good money to get success,,, as his other team don't seem to be able to bring him any

I was catching up on reading the Speedway Star yesterday and there was an interview with Adam Ellis in the issue a couple of weeks ago. He mentions that Woffinden and the GB team had organised a practice day at Wroclaw, understandably didn't expect Tai, Bewley or Lambert to need to be there but was surprised to find he was the only one who turned up. Again, if he's prepared to put the effort in when others aren't, those riders can't complain when they don't get selected.

The main problem for me is that the rain had passed by 6pm (ish) and Oxford said the meeting was still on at this stage. With no further rain falling, most fans obviously presumed the track was in a fit state to race and travelled, paid for tickets (at £2 extra), bought programmes etc., etc. Now I've no complaints with Oxford delaying a call off while waiting for the rain to stop and checking out the state of the track, but it was obvious (at 6pm) it wasn't going to happen. That's when the call off should have happened and saved everybody's time and money. No riders even went out on a bike to test it, suggesting the track was a long way from being in a fit state to race. Oxford returning has been a dream for me and I love the club, but there have been some very questionable decisions (especially this season). Will it stop me from going again? No it won't, but there's probably less passionate fans that simply don't feel the same way.

I was commenting more on Len’s account of his time as GB team manager. The job was run on such a shoestring he even had to buy his own jacket . Its a few years since I read his book and can’t remember all the details but that aspect was not a glowing account of the inner workings of British speedway . Undoubtedly Len Silver is a very single minded character, but the same single mindedness that makes him a very difficult man to work with, also bred the commitment that kept Hackney and Rye House going against the odds for many years. He was undoubtedly a good servant of speedway, did his best for the riders and was a showman who engaged with the fans (although he did eventually pass his sell-by date) . He wasn’t the only one like that of course but if a few more showed half his commitment the sport would be in a better place IMO.

I doff my metaphorical hat to you, Sir!! A fella who sits near me at Owlerton called him "Climb Ev'ry" when he rode for us

When I arrived at 7pm it was clear the track was in a poor condition and 40 minutes later it was called off. Having seen the track at close quarters I don’t think there was ever any realistic chance of seeing any Speedway tonight given the earlier rain today. The return of Speedway to Oxford has by and large been a great success and one to celebrate but these questionable decisions to chance it to the last moment do a lot of damage to the club and undoubtedly will drive fans away.

It’s a literal bleeding’ miracle that Belle Vue can put on a full top league league program plus Colts, plus PCMT, plus Women’s championship, plus short track, plus British Final in their allotted time. Tale wagging the dog again in Speedway as we pander to the lowest common denominator. If you’re a car crash, no worries we’ll work around you. Jesus, things will never change. Switch the lights off on your way out.

Pots and kettles comes to mind.

Whatever it was, I'm glad he took the guest booking otherwise the problems could have happened tomorrow night at Redcar.

is buster using an inferior quality product on the track then

There’s only a couple of decent riders over here now and it’s easy money they told him.

The top riders can/could ride them all.... Doyle never seemed to have much trouble at Arlington and Poole, even the sort after Ryan Douglas was sensational at Arlington in his 2 meetings there after one ride to get used to the track, but even in his prime before abandoning British speedway Woffinden always moaned and groaned about most of those.

I had you down as securing your playoff spot away at Peterborough - until the changes last night I would have felt a full strength Sheffield had a very good chance to win tonight’s meeting but now I do feel yes you will win it fairly comfortably. Monday was surprise but from that you have tough away matches to come so felt that whilst your spot was very likely until you get one more win it wasn’t impossible for Ipswich to catch you based on they have two matches v KL and one v Peterborough both from the Buster stable!!! Your performance at Owlerton was really impressive last month or whenever it was but what surprised me was just how bad the blip was on Monday - however you’ll be in the mix for sure for the playoffs now!

Bomber got a puncture whilst leading on the last lap, not King.

If we reach 40 points hence take bonus will be ecstatic. Hopefully those that let us down in cup match get their fingers out and can take advantage of riss's indifferent form

Makes sense actually, his 28 facility ends just before transfer windows shuts so leaves Sheffield with options on last few days of it

Ah, that line up is just my opinion, I'm sure it will be nothing like that Tbh, I haven't followed the leagues that closely this year so I had no idea... I mainly just check the NL from time to time and that's it, I'm not interested in PL and CL as much

I'm sure with a bit of materials research it should be possible to come up with a more rain resistant surface. After all, didn't we hear that the GP shale stored in a scientifically designed pyramid shape? LOL However, there's far more money in cricket and despite advances in drainage and super soppers, rain still stops play. I still think the best solution would be to built some sort of cantilevered canopy over the track. Could be a partial roof like you get over Dutch speed skating circuits, or some lightweight tent sort of structure.

If you include those, that only leaves 48 days to squeeze in all those fixtures. Just not possible and absolutely definitely certain that it’s not their fault. Bates only needs two or three sycophants telling him it’s not his fault and he’ll believe it and carry on year after year after year after year. Looking forward to the fireworks on November 5th at Sheffields late season finale again.

Shame they were "bullied" into not being allowed to host Nora meetings, could that have lost them money, if the stadium is rented out who earns? Who gets gate receipts?

It"s because of all the lack of rain we get in Manchester... Unfair advantage....

The way the climate is changing it's not stadia it's going to be needed but rather old industrial size warehouse where indoor arenas can be constructed

I'm sure he will manage to miss one if it works out better.....

I think it was because Sweden finished last in 2022 and automatically drop out.

Correct. Peterborough made a change outside of the transfer window due to a long term injury. Belle Vue were initially stopped (by a rival promoter on the BSPL top table) but cited the previous application of the rule. The SCB agreed that rules should be applied the same and the rule book won out and the Aces could make the signing. In sport playing by the rules is important and the loose application or down right breaking of rules over the last couple of decades has had a big effect on crowds, especially the old school that made up the largest percentage of fans. No rules, no fair competition, no point.

A mixture of both which is exactly what you’re after. Experienced guys who are there to assist the next generation.