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PC had no involvement whatsoever with the development of promotion of the NSS. The 100+ names “demanded” were ex-riders, occasional sponsors (of him) and friends and acquaintances with no involvement with PC. There was never any suggestion of bringing along potential future sponsors. It was pointed out to him that any former Belle Vue rider would be welcomed - all they had to do was call in advance. As a former promoter, my stance would be the same. Any former rider of a team in which I was involved would welcome past riders wishing to attend. Sometimes, we’d ask that they agree to be interviewed or make themselves available to meet supporters. If any former rider wanted to attend every meeting, a financial arrangement would probably be reached, As a former promoter, I have had personal invitations to attend several tracks, (something I can rately take up) but I wouldn’t expect to attend free of charge every meeting at one track.

As a club we like to stick to the rules and so have gone like for like replacement

As a bystander, I can't help feeling you've got a personal spite against a very hard-working, steeped-in-speedway, club official.

Craig should really man up....

Got to be the track as they’re decent abroad!

Jorgensen, Jakobsen and Klindt out, not good enough

Buster's budget prob the issue.

If the mangement walk... that wait may be permanent.

While that might be true , watch the next two Fridays . We will have a couple of hundred on the 3rd and 4th bend on Friday night , the following Friday there might be 50 or so Monarchs fans at our place , depending on Friday's result . Days of fans travelling any distance for an away meeting are just about priced out of the equation . If we have any ambition to go with the money spent , its time we were riding against the likes of Belle Vue , Ipswich ,Kings Lynn etc

Ignoring the play off semi final at the end of 2022 this is usually a close run affair. Master, Worrall and Douglas all know the fastest way around Owlerton and if it’s on the slick side then Schlein will be up there too, Becker always been a bit hit and miss but an easily get 5-7 points. Think it’s Cook’s first time in track so will take a ride or two to get dialled in but he’s seen the place plenty of time when spannering for Holder in early 2022. Flint can pop out and liking the bigger track isn’t scared of using the high dirt line. As for the home side, Musielak and Holder are usually good for 10+ points each, a lot will depend on Ellis and Bellego as both have been pretty poor so far (exception being the Lynn whipping 2 weeks ago) Ellis has looked slow even if he pops out of the start he’s always looking behind so must feel the lack of speed and Bellego has ridden very hesitant so far like a mix of Batchelor and Craig Cook when not committing to tough first bends etc, Kerr has rode very consistently all season and similar to when he was at reserve there’s the added bonus of having Howarth down there who again can get 4-7 rides depending on others performance, Gilkes has picked up good points and learning every race I’ll go for a home win, not an annihilation like the home match last time out v King’s Lynn but something around 50-40 mark

I would say yes

Just what do you expect of Danny King? His GSA has increased from 6.41 to 6.79. The problem with the Witches team lies elsewhere, namely……. 1) not adequately replacing Riss. 2) the form of your RS

No idea but there must be three riders out there who can do better than 3's and 4's

The problem for me is the People running the sport are in denial and seem to the sport is in good health.The sport needs a major revamp IMO.

Don't know why Alex Brady bothered breaking the bank for Artem considering the state the rest of the team is in. Jakobsen and Klindt are taking the mickey now, TJ is just bad.

We have no engine room. Don't listen to Allit and start again.Friends will win you fook all

Jorgensen next to go hopefully

I'd certainly echo what Crescent Girl has said. In all my years watching speedway, I have never known anyone more passionate about the sport than Laurence Rogers. That doesn't necessarily make him a good team manager, but I can remember a few years ago Wolverhampton fans turning their ire on Peter Adams after a string of rubbish performances and a poor final league position. Adams was - and remains - the most successful in top flight speedway's history. I don't think that this is a matter of spite, but it is a matter of looking for someone to blame for Birmingham's disastrous on track performances over the last couple of seasons - in other words, a scapegoat. What you seem to believe is that if he left and the 'inept buffoon' was replaced by someone apparently more competent on track performances would dramatically improve. Looking through the 2023 predictions thread, most have Birmingham bottom and none have them in a play off spot. That means the team is poor - which it clearly is - and therefore whoever comes in is extremely unlikely to turn things around without significant changes. Booting Rogers out, then, will almost certainly make very little difference. I am not aware how much say Laurence Rogers had in building the team, but given a reported £250k loss last year even if he was wholly responsible it is more than likely that his hands - not unreasonably - were significantly tied in terms of the budget for the team. Blaming him - and only him - for Birmingham's present form seems to me, then, to be totally unsupported by the actual circumstances in existence.

As has already been said on this thread, Alex Brady is in charge of all the finances at Lynn and he has obviously paid to do deal for Laguta. However , at Peterborough the finances and control remain firmly in the hands of Chapman, who is clearly working on a much lower budget. You can see this by the fact that we are having trouble affording Tungate, never mind somebody like Laguta

The final sentence is pretty much spot on The Venue, Traffic, but in my case it's more to do with the Team, this Team is built all wrong and most people could see this from the word go, except for a certain few who really should have known better.

I think you will find that a fair few Cradley fans attend both Birmingham and Wolves. There numbers are dwindling but I'm pretty sure the low Brummies attendances include a fair few floating fans from Cradley and a few from Wolves. The fact is Perry Barr isn't a great venue for watching speedway, traffic is also an issue and I guess the poor team adds the finishing touch.

Leon's career went downhill after that.

From what I read, it was about the top promoters not wanting to split their pot of gold from the tv receipts.

If Tungate's move doesn't happen then the entire blame lies with Tomalin, You can't promise the world, Only to deliver nothing and then get a free pass for it 24/7 because we've gone through this song and dance twice already this season (Zagar & Laguta) so the warning signs are there. I'll never be Buster's biggest fan (Far from it) and he's done a lot of things wrong throughout the years but he wasn't the one who was piping up during the winter making us out to be the Manchester City of British Speedway.

And the Thompson's might still be riding (and Scott Nicholls could guest for Poole)

They rode well. My comment was it won't be easy for second strings & reserves to score well. The fact you found two names from 8 matches proves my point lol!

The team was always top heavy to accomodate the no 1 we lacked under the Masons and since Nigel Tolley arrived. Unfortunately we've got a No 1 who is for some reason riding like a Number 4, he's certainly not a Masters / Lawson type rider. Sedgeman has always been marmite, sadly it looks like his form and impact is tailing off in year 2 as it has done in the past. Pearson has improved but needs to be in a better team to continue that improvement and Bowtell is 100% but may be guilty of trying too hard on occasions to make up for deficiencies elsewhere. Very impressed with Jenkins and Atkins last night, 2 lads who've had stop start periods due to injury and being discarded by other Clubs somewhat inexplicably, both rode with real freedom and enjoyment and Oxford look to be getting things right. I can't fault the Masons nor Nigel for their hrd work and obviously both losing / lost shedloads to give us Speedway. I know the Oxford promotion have some money behind them, probably more than Masons and Tolley but they also seem to have a Stadium Landlord happy to help them rather than chastise and obstruct them. Frankly, I, and i know many others, have no expectation beyond the last meeting of this season, and that's nothing to do with the mamangement, the team or anything ON the track, purely down to (a) Stadium Owners (b) the fact that no one can expect successful but limited in terms of available cash businessmment to continue to pump in tens of thousands on the basis that their hearts have over-ruled their heads. If Oxford can attract average crowds of 1500 or more and 800 or more for NDL , why do we struggle to get 500 for CL, and last night only boosted by a sizable Oxford contingent. The answer to that may go back many years and lots of factors. One massive question though remains, that is WHY have we never been able to attract ex Coventry / Cradley fans to PB in the way that Oxford have attracted Swindon / Reading fans who make significantly longer trips inmidweek. It's not as if the much maligned (and unfairly on occasion in my opinion) Promoter / Manager hasn't done his utmost to attract Cradley / Coventry fans, but where are they??... If Wolves survive I may watch Speedway there, otherwise I'll make the not difficult trip down the M40 on occasions down to Oxford if PB does close on a few occasions and go to Leicester but sadly and it is sad, I cannot see any sustainable future for the Sport in the West Midlands unless CVS can pull a rabbit out of the hat!

Next season I think we will see just two divisions, a “top” league and a “junior” level league and Plymouth will be in the latter, maybe just maybe that would allow them to hold Nora meetings too? That would probably be their ideal scenario. No pressure on having to be competitive with teams they can’t hold a candle too financially, just run the sport as a centre of development which is ideally what Iwade and Workington will be. South, South East and North West covered.

Surely we're not gonna go down the "it's all Buster's fault" road again. Buster wouldn't agree a deal & take it away, something else would of had to change. Tungate asking more, or sponsors not putting in what they agreed etc?

Always assumed track conditions suited him better at heat 14 that won't in heat 8?

Some good racing tonight unfortunately another loss, it's going to take more than Laguta to change things at Lynn i feel.

Think that had more to do with the division 2 sides being shafted , with the promised spreading of the top riders throughout the league failing to materialise . And Glasgow having to start the season with r/r for a non existent number 1 . And the less said about 96 the better . I got bored supporting the away team every week

Crikey Harry drops from 7.11 to 3.00. Can't imagine any riders keeping thier place with that form. Thats worse than Dayle Wood and William Richardson. Interestingly Sam is very much heading in the other direction.....must make sunday dinner Interesting.

That’s on a good day. nearer 350 average

Should be doing better away ...Been around abit now...

Working with your mate Buster probably..

Bellego really needs to up his game if he wants to stay at Sheffield. I think we are weaker with Howarth at reserve Lewis can gate consistently but Kyle can’t and wolves are generally quick out of the starts. Don’t think Howarth will have the same impact at reserve but hopefully he will prove me wrong

It's not really strange when you take into account that Brady is in charge of the finances at Kings Lynn, whereas unfortunately at Peterborough it's still Chapman.

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I've got no gripes about the 'promotional' team....I would back them 100% if they replaced Rogers!

Doesn't make him any good, though.

make me and numerous other stay away fans, want to return and spend my money to help keep the club in existence. All I can say if you and other people think like this Birmingham won't survive the season, got to support the club now or it won't exist anymore, and probably won't come back especially as the greyhounds appear to want to do something different

Wow 3.38,,,and didn't he get a paid max in a meeting? Goes to show he doesn't seem to have done so well as some have said he has

I think he would fit for TJ or Klindt..

While Luke might be an exciting prospect,what I have seem of him he is far from the finished article and will need to learn to stay on the bike.Too much out of control at times for me.

Always managed to get wet fingers in Worky..................

Just Heat 8.

2022 all official fixtures ( exc guest and bonus points) 5.58 2023 so far (same basis) 5.29 So I query your statement, although I note that 5.29 does exceed his starting GSA.

Woffy is just hanging around with “big boys” these days.Doesn’t really want to get stuck in.He’s been there ,got the Tee Shirt and the money.Will still be earning plenty in the League Matches in Poland and Sweden without really taxing himself though.