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This is also part of the problem with enforcing artificially low team averages. It's the guys in the middle order who get squeezed out every time. High average guys are kept and teams are filled out with low averages.

What about that bloke at Leicester? He always does really well.

I've always advocated allowing referees to use their discretion and allow all four back where a 'racing' incident occurs. Too often we see two riders clash as they take different lines off a bend, and come together. How many times do we hear Kelvin etc call it a 50-50, and how difficult a call it is for the ref to exclude one of them. As it stands, a rider trying to 'race' is often penalised, yet we as fans want to see RACING! I would go further, and where an incident occurs on the third or fourth lap, I would allow the ref the discretion to have a re-run with just the two who fell, and they would fight it out for the positions they were in when the race was stopped. How many times do we see a re-run where the rider who was leading by a mile ends up missing out. Should the rider who was well back in fourth spot be allowed the chance to win the race just because two at the front clashed? Allow refs to exclude where a rider has deliberately brought off another, or just made a mistake and come off, but allow riders who want to race to do so. Speedway would be the winner.

Whilst watching the premiership grand final it seemed to me that the referee made all the correct decisions according to the rules but the rules maybe need amending. any incidents up to the exit of the second bend can only be dealt with either a rerun due to a unsatisfactory start or a exclusion for the cause of the stoppage. There isn’t actually a rule about first bend bunching despite being spoken about repeatedly. why not have a 50/50 no blame rerun for any incidents on the first lap which genuinely is a 50/50 incident. this would allow more 4 rider races and points to be won on the track rather than the referee exclusion light. thoughts ???

Belle Vue want him. ‘Yes he may struggle initially in 1-5 but then he will go to reserve. And also he’s only 18 so really his average should only go 1 way

Poole would never go with 2 two point reserves. They would be there all season, no chance of reserve swaps if one of the top 5 had an off night. Need one decent scoring reserve.

That is the worst team you've ever put together and there've been some stinkers.

Think you are wildly underestimating him. But hope he signs over here so we can see!

I’m confident we may see a new Aussie in the team next year.

Maybe, but watching Holder ride in Poland over the past two seasons, he has definitely worked his way back into the top 20 or so in the world I would say.. And, in my opinion, is quite a way above the level of the likes of Musielak, Kurtz, and Zagar, and even above Fricke... I would say he would be easily vying for third in the averages behind Doyle and Bewley if he rode over here... Seems to have got his "mojo" back so would be a very good signing for anyone I would suggest..

Holder won’t get anywhere near Doyle’s average here. We had all this this time last year when more than one person tipped younger Holder, Kurtz and Max Fricke to all eclipse Doyle this year, and none of them got remotely close.

Wouldn’t disagree regarding the pijpers

Fingers crossed.

British riders get a 2.5% average reduction.

Shame for stormy, don't see him getting a place anywhere on that average. Might be last we see of him

Trevor Redmond rider/team manager/promoter for the Tigers in the Provincial League season but probably no one since.

Beat me by 10 seconds lol

Can tell you last Saturdays if that would help.

Surely not *that* Mike West? The one that Andy Williams sung about in The Impossible Dream?

Would assume Edwards will be at Redcar?

Can someone in the know please tell me Saturdays lottery numbers.

Ace to Berwick orGlasgow,Theo retires to help him anyone.

Has been muted elsewhere, though, that as the boy doesn’t yet drive, being in the same team would help with transport logistics.

Best team rider I ever saw

Think more chance of Harris at Oxford than Glasgow.

I've always thought the panto season shouldn't start until Dec 1st ......we seem to run a 12 month season on the bsf.

I think you’ll be very close if not bang on with that.

As far as I’m concerned, I would put Harris’s previous season with us down as a blip……and would have him back in a heartbeat.

Given that in 2022 Chris Holder had a higher average than Woffinden, Doyle, Bewley and Jack Holder in Poland, and Janowski, Dudek and Lindgren in Sweden I'd suggest he's hardly a spent force.

Chris Harris won't be at Glasgow. Glasgow management aren't going to splash out 8.75 points on a rider who let them down drastically just a couple of years ago. 14.77 left for 3 riders imo. Benjamin Basso 8.52 Tom Brennan 6.71 Claus Vissing 5.00 Marcin Nowak 5.00

I feel that a few of the younger Latvian, Czech and Danish riders could definitely be brought over to the UK. Polish riders of similar ages are getting chances to race against the best riders in the world with the U21 reserves in the Polish Leagues, with the promise of racing against Doyle, Fricke, Holder and Bewley those non-polish riders might race in the UK. I'm thinking Francis Gusts, Juhl Pedersen, Daniel Klima etc.

Simon Lambert was in a declared 1-7, so there was no problem with him guesting.

Can't have 2 heat leaders -loose cannon barker and essentially 3 reserves / second strings then Cole's at the bottom. Get completely murdered away. Number 1 priority is paying what it takes to get gilkes and go from there

I'd certainly like to see Craig Cook at Peterborough on that average, he can't go lower. I'd expect him to add a point or more.

Paul EF Starke

Hume is popular, but injury prone, and possibly not going much further at 26 …

Dont see Theo riding in the same as his son would want to spend all his time with him during the meeting

There were eight-man teams in 1964 in the National League. Olle Nygren, Reg Luckhurst, Bob Andrews and Ted Ede guested for Oxford once each. Danny Dunton also rode in one meeting. In the Britannia Shield matches Colin McKee appeared 7 times and Danny Dunton once, with Barry Briggs and Olle Nygren guesting one each.

2.00 is the minimum for Brits. 3.00 is the minimum once a Brit has averaged above 3.00, so that should be Bickley's ave not 2.93

Maybe that is our intention

Workington comets No 8 is THJ

Which is what I do, though I don't have any expensive habits except going to the speedway!

In case the Lawson to Glasgow rumours turn out to be true. As for Harris as stated by Jaizer I doubt it and it’s not for me.

Nick morris has signed

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I think the idea of Lynn's rumoured side is to emulate P'boro's class of 2021 with six riders who could all be number one or ride at reserve, think that was the idea last season but for various reasons it didn't work out. If KK had been signed as say third heat leader in a top heavy side with weak reserves that's a different ball game but in a rock solid side I think he'll be fine. We shall see!

Got to be Jenkins surely? Showed promise last year while Kemp has failed to progress for some time now.

only if they stick to 7 man teams

I prefer it when clubs announce one rider at a time. Means I can predict teams throughout the winter, which I've always enjoyed doing. When a team announces all 7 in one go, I feel what's there left to talk about lol!