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If the super heat had been in Poland it would had been the best thing ever..

I think it’s a complete waste of time and money but I can appreciate that some like it. Early doors it was a bit processional, but half way through it livened up considerably and the racing second half was very good. Ipswich did well to come back but I thought a draw was a fair result.

The crowd will not be affected regardless of the Plymouth lineup. That was proved when Brum came down with a patched up lineup. Big crowd. They will line up, if it is on, as: 1 Rider Replacement 8.402 Ben Morley 4.293 Ben Trigger 8.004 Anders Rowe 6.765 Dillon Ruml 7.156 Lee Complin 3.267 Connor Coles 2.00 If that is the official lineup, Pirates really need to be up for it. No sitting back. Plymouth could certainly hold us close. Rider Replacement certainly knows his way around Poole. Been here enough times. Morley is no slouch. Wasn’t Trigger from Only Fools and Horses in the GPs a few seasons ago? Rowe and Ruml solid and Complin always entertains with his around the boards efforts. Coles and Ablitt battling for the odd point. Too close to call.

Just waiting for the weather to take a turn before they resume. They can’t be running whilst it’s relatively warm and dry that would be far to sensible for a summer sport.

I think the point is, hindsight is all very well but when you make a call 24 hours in advance your doing so on a prediction, not on a fact.

Ah fair does. It was a small minority of people just disappointing none the less. As for positive though, it was genuinely the best meeting I've seen all season. Got taken by a neutral so they appreciated a lot more than I did as my views were tampered by the result! Must say it was excellent at Belle Vue. The overall presentation was great, there was no hanging about and waiting, the racing was top notch and was just impressive to see the level of standard of a self sufficient track can be. It's the height of what every club should aim for even if its most likely unobtainable for most.

The one trait if a bully is that they don't like to be stood up to and outed. You are a Bully Im quite happy for you to block me as you certainly can't enter in to any form of rational debate. I'm quite happy to stand by my record as an overall constructive and fair minded poster prior to standing up to the bullying of me and others by you and your sycophants. I'll not bother replying to any response as by blocking me you won't see it actually will you!

Ipswich drew at Peterborough and got 3 points, Sheffield achieved the same result and got 1 point because of some stupid rule, speedway matches are over a maximum of 15 heats not 16

And that is the problem regarding some fans who will be out of the habit of attending. The new fans will be wondering what is going on, thinking if it is a part-time sport, and then maybe tune in to Eurosport and see Glasgow and Edinburgh Riders riding for different teams. And then I wonder why nobody I know takes it seriously.

IMO, When 2 teams deserve a draw, like last night, then a draw it should be Only top heavy teams, their fans and casuals will enjoy superheats. I would’ve felt cheated if I was a Panthers fan last night

It’s sad,every year you think the fixture list must be better next season,but alas same sh#t -different season.

It’s simple in my mind, attendances are poor now because the racing generally is too often gate and go. You can have whatever format you like, lovely eye catching race suits, extra match points for a team arriving early. Having the most bonus points or winning despite having the most guests or the Eurosport speciality having the most boring and inept commentator (Ermobollox) but supporters want proper racing and close matches and let’s be fair it’s not too often they see it these days. The GP,s were very popular not too long ago when around 40,000 did the annual trek to Cardiff despite rip off ticket and hotel prices, but this years debacle in front of just over 20,000 has showed that even GP,s have a duty to entertain or they will die and the powers at be just don’t appear to want or desire to take on board that the racing is key as Wroclaw showed the other Weekend. A proper Grand Prix on a proper race track.

But why is a draw any different to any other result? A drawn match is normally exciting, or at least tense, in its own right. If you need an extra race because the scores are level, why not an extra race when the teams are only a couple of points apart, to see if one of them can earn a draw or a victory - or an extra race when a team wins by 6 or 8, to give one team a chance to win by more or lose by less to gain an extra League point? It's a 15 heat format for a League match, which produces a result for a League table.

Before you continue moaning everyone as I’ve said previously would you be happy to spend your money,maybe family money coming down here from Dorset tomorrow for a washout if the answer is no you wouldn’t be happy then stop moaning if the answer is yes than fair play you must have more money than most people like it or not it really was the right decision.

Tell us all you have no clue on track preparation without telling us you have no clue on track preparation

Stop talking rubbish 100% correct to call off,end of!

Yeah, Kennett isn't riding.

I like change if i think it is for the better.They changed the points awarded to teams when gaining a draw or losing by 6 or less,or winning away gaining more points if you win by more than 6.I think the points system is probably one of the best things they have introduced for years,then they spoil it this year with the draw superheat imo.

I remember attending Brandon every Saturday night (stock cars excepted), to see the speedway racing I’d go most Tuesdays to Blackbird Road, to see the speedway I enjoyed Bees winning, I enjoyed visiting teams winning at Leicester, but really it didn’t matter, as I’d enjoy the action from the 13 heat match and the second half, which I always stayed for League, challenge, Midland Cup matches, plus World and Midland Championship qualifiers, Tests and other individual meetings This attitude doesn’t seem to prevail any longer, judging by the comments on BSF - all this b0llocks about play-offs, rider changes, with journeymen “team members” - fans identified with “their riders” season after season, now it’s hardly match after match Can’t remember many changes for the better since “the good old days”

You’ve never seen scenes like it because your trophy cabinet has sat empty for ages

Belle Vue produces consistently the best racing week in week out on possibly the best Speedway race track in the world yet can't get anywhere near filling the place. Not surprising really when they stage their event on a night when most people can't get to it.

Personally I preferred the old aggregate bonus point system...far easier and simpler to understand!

It was just a coincidence that the Stupid Heat was a very good race. It's still totally unnecessary.

The best race of the night was a superheat. The riders celebrated like they won the league. The fans of whichever team wins the superheat will cheer like they are league champions. The fans of the loosing team will hate it. all in all. You got an extra race and what a race it was. im all for the superheat

Good effort from Summers there by the way. Paid 7 after failing to score in his first ride was good going in the main body of the team. Vital contribution.

Good to see Jenkins scoring some good points too.

I agree too this but still think it should be scrapped! This bulls*it statement that it makes it interesting for tv viewers is absolute crap. Majority of people watching are speedway fans not some average Joe channel hopping and all of sudden that into it they don’t wanna see a drawn meeting. It’s so unnecessary and actually embarrassing.

Lest we forget what it's all about amidst the bitterness of recent events, you may wish to check my "Ode to Brough" on speedwayplus.com Read it and weep. It's a poem. A poem?! Well, I did go to East Walker Primary.

An overheated portacabin due to a hot summer, in Scunthorpe !!!!! Whoever thought that gem up could be the new Barry Cryer

Rain the day before really shouldn't make a difference. It's only rain in the few hours before the meeting that counts. By this morning, the rain could have been forecasted to finish at lunchtime. By all means, call the meeting off at 9am this morning if the forecast hasn't changed. Calling it off the day before is ridiculous, though.

Thunderstorms are the hardest type of weather to predict because they are so changeable. This morning, the forecast could have been totally different. It wasn't, but that's missing the point. Had the forecast changed this morning, Plymouth would have been left with massive egg on their face.. yet again. Why call off a meeting the day before - it doesn't make sense. No wonder Plymouth were the only team in the Championship not to finish their home fixtures by the play-off deadline despite the driest summer for nearly 30 years.

While I don't think the meeting could have gone ahead tonight, why didn't Plymouth wait until this morning to make a decision? The forecast can change very quickly from day-to-day, especially when it's for storms. Early call-offs are sensible, but this one was being ridiculous, and just makes it look like Plymouth wanted the second leg at home. Plymouth have become a figure of fun this season: there's the daft situation with Eddie Kennett, setting fire to their own track, and now calling off meeting a whole day in advance. It's hard to take Plymouth Speedway very seriously.

It's the same every year, it's a semi pro sport really, run by less than semi pro people.

The rules are quite clear. That doesn't make them fair, sensible or popular.

No surprise though!

Absolutely. When the club's decided wanted a home leg each for jubilee final the bspl should just have gone you've a free date this date that's your home leg deal with it. Having it after the play offs in the cold and most likely wet of October/ November is going to entice no-one. Not having a go at anyone in particular but need much stronger leadership and dare I say an independent chairman/ board. Glasgow and Leicester haven't had champ matches for weeks, should have been done and dusted by now imo

Well done Simon Lambert.

Well done to the Peterborough promotion for giving something back to the supporters. Nice of them to engineer the result so to give that extra heat. And what a superheat it was... pity no one told Ipswich riders to not win it Up the Witches

Basso had a puncture in heat 16 I was told

Good meeting some excellent racing in the later heats especially and the Souper Heat was great. And not a tyre problem in sight. We'll miss the EOES when it's gone

Agree Badge he looked short on pace again. Just when he starts to find a bit of form and you think he’s back on it, he then goes back in to reverse. Just been a poor year for him by the standards he set last year. Still time though. If he comes alive in the play offs and helps us to success then none of that will matter from our point of view.

Tarmac the track is the only answer.!! These weather situations are dragging the sport to oblivion.

I know the British like to talk about the weather but this must be the longest thread ever about the topic!

Yeah. Klindt made 2 passes tonight round the outside. He was on it. good match that despite the score line. Some great racing. the booing came from 2 individuals who are pissed up and do t even come to belle Vue. Was there first match of the season. And it’s always the case when they come. congratulations to the Sheffield fan who was on his 700th consecutive away meeting following Sheffield. That’s some going. Fair play to the man

The future of Swindon Stadium has been an on-going unacceptable public relations disaster for many years now. I feel sorry for any "Budgies" fans who have been promised this and that without any substance and continual cover ups.

Ironically the Poole fans have just answered the thread question as to why they are the most hated haha

I've never understood that comment, Harris has a high ave because he's a good rider! Plus one of the most exciting riders in British Speedway

Totally disagree. The superheat at Foxhall earlier in the season generated the best atmosphere I’ve experienced for many many years and is my lasting memory of this entire season. Random people were high fiving complete strangers. You didn’t get that kind of emotion when securing a draw do you? Plenty have liked your post so maybe I’m in the minority but there’s a lot of traditionalists out there that just don’t like change.

There was a crap rider from Brough, who thought the track was looking quite rough. He entered the first bend at speed And thought he was going to lead, But hit breeze blocks and went off in a huff!

It may have had more "dead rubbers" as you correctly say, but it also did have teams visiting for maybe their only visit of the season, which meant some interest from the fans... With an out and out superstar too in some cases, which could bring some of the best crowds of the season.. Now we have play offs with potentially teams making their fourth visit of the season, with riders on show visiting your track who may have guested several times for other teams (as well as your own team)... The pull of the play offs will hopefully always deliver good crowds but it is the matches leading up to them which sadly dont always hold much sway...