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As someone who is obviously close to Rob you are certainly not helping with the reputation of the club with posts like this. In any line of business where customers pay their money then they are entitled to their opinions and I am sure Rob is big enough to accept that his position will no doubt bring criticism when things go wrong. The former promotion certain had regular criticism over the years. As someone who works for the club maybe a bit of professionalism should be shown by you, especially at a time when the club needs more supporter not less. As a forum for opinions then if you don’t like people having their own then maybe best to avoid reading it!

Have you just found out?

Not being deliberately controversial but the elephant in the room is clear. As long as the older generation; Harris; Nicholls, Cook, Masters, Lawson, King; Morris, Worrals; Wright; Kerr; etc are allowed to double up, many of them that could be affored 5-10 years ago but which cannot be afforded now but which some Clubs have to pay to be competitive then the sink will be continually blocked and the younger riders paths will be lost and wasted. They will go to Poland and u24 leagues or if not good enough drift away from the Sport. May be you have hit on something but with a twist. PL for all CL for British born or Qualified Under 24 with may be one over 24 or foreign rider oNLY allowed

Spot on! Great Britain Speedway Team has arguably the best junior programme in Speedway, even the envy of Poland apparently and then dumps it's developed riders into a 2nd league flooded with top league talent. The likes of Leon Flint, Tom Brennan, Joe & Dan Thompson, Jack Thomas, Anders Rowe, Drew Kemp, Dan Gilkes, Jordan Jenkins, Jason Edwards & Jordan Palin should be heat leader/ top second string standard in the CL instead they're second string / reserves. It's really all a bit of a mess at the moment with the Polish restrictions and PL only having a 6 team league and until that changes things are likely to remain the same

Dan Bewley I believe...

Rubbish he is learning. Takes time.

Robert lambert biggest bottler in the series (the new Chris Harris)

Whoever is in charge of getting things right at any club needs to get them right on the night. Whether that's the track, programme, presentation, stewarding, medical cover etc..... The fans, like myself, can make valid opinions whether they are educated ones or not. Wot we see on the night is wot we see & determines whether we are attracted to go back again or not no matter what explanation is given when things go wrong. All these wishy washy reasons given, valid or not, are not good enough especially when trying to attract new fans. Oxford was so bad, extremely bad with the dust vs Poole it was like desert storm. Do you think new fans wud want to put up with that each week. Never had shale dust & chips before. I've been going to speedway for 43 years & that was shocking at Oxford, I don't care even if they said something like we put x amount of gallons of water down blah blah blah.... It's all about getting the product right on the night, nothing else matters not even valid reasons!!!!

I can only see manipulation on the rise. Teams whos play-off chances have gone will see riders tripping over themselves to finish last. Two "bad" matches could easily see a rider trim 1-2 points off thier average.

Wot on earth av Eurosport got to do with BSN or an individual club's live stream?

Winning at home is good for business Ben Morley will beat a fair few Heat Leaders at home Away from home if he picks up 3-5 points he could win you the title

Good GP that.. Congratulations to Max Fricke, thoroughly deserved. Surprisingly, no Poles in the final.. Keeps it interesting though..

Looks like Eurovision beckons if this borefest keeps going

Madsen on Graversen

You haven't lived. That's "luxury". Bipolar vegetable?

Maybe Doc Brown just picked him up from New Cross in the Delorean.

I seem to remember this being the reason rolling averages were brought in, in the first place wasnt it? With the wholel premise being the longer the number of races and meetings, the less impact a few dodgy ones had...

Sorry, but with respect, if you had been at the Ecco arena, last night , you might want to revise your score forecast. Bears carrying more passengers than Stagecoach.

Rode since then though and implied it wouldn't cause an issue. Sadly another in the Bridger mould where talent is there but preperation and dedication is massively lacking. Thought teams were daft to include him on his comeback and still looks a daft decision now. Probably makes Belle Vue stronger though.

Funnily enough I emailed Redcar on Thursday morning enquiring about a live stream and they replied no. Then about 6 hours later I got an email saying that they will now be doing a live stream. Let's hope Glasgow will do the same.

Warm weather and strong winds all afternoon meant the track was drying out as fast as they could get water into it.

The bottom line is the riders are just not good enough.When you see the young Danes and Aussies making progress in Poland starting from scratch it hits home.It doesn’t matter who you are coming up against in GB you just have to beat them.!! The young Brits in the Polish u/24 league look out of their depth .There is a decent set up in Uk though.

I'm sorry but that really means these riders are the better ones at 2nd level speedway. If they are as good as that they should be holding their on at PL level too. Dan Bewley has done it and Tom Brennan is certainly showing he is capable. I suppose CL heat leaders should be equivalent of PL 2nd strings and CL 2nd strings should be PL reserves and equally the same relationship between CL and NDL. The only ways to improve are more track time (the only benefit from doubling up IMHO) and racing against the strongest opponents. Problem is PL & CL are basically 90% the same product bar racing on different nights under different names.

I have to agree with all the above , speedway's El Classico should be available to the wider speedway public . We cant all be privileged to be there in person like me

Easily solved then. Just ring the brummies number , ask for retentions & tell them you will be leaving if you don't get your discount.

Not that’s it really relevant but my memory of that day was a strangely poignant one, although still riding I was also mechanic for hynek stichuer and we had gone to stay with hynek while going to the czech GP, on the Sunday we went to pardubice track, there were only us there and we were having a drink in the workshops under the pits of which one was formally lee Richardson’s, his stickers were all over the benches and cabinets, we locked up and went for food and we heard the news he had died, it’s was sickening when I think back to it but just felt odd and poiniant that we had been in in old workshop at the time he was killed, as I said not really relevant but reading this thread just reminded me of that day

Todays engine tuners judging by their engine covers: Leon Madsen ? Mikkel Michelsen Graversen Fredrik Lindgren Graversen Jason Doyle Graversen Vitalii Lysak Graversen Robert Lambert Holloway Dan Bewley Holloway Tai Woffinden Holloway Max Fricke Holloway Anders Thomsen Jablonski Martin Vaculik Kowalski Pawel Przedpelski Kowalski Bartosz Zmarzlik Kowalski Jack Holder Kowalski Patryk Dudek Kowalski Maksym Drabik Kowalski Maciej Janowski Kowalski Jakub Miskowiak Kowalski

JK`s excellent racecard for Warsaw GP- with riders in draw order https://www.speedwayservice.at/images/racecards/2022/SGP2022-02.pdf

As I don't have a smart phone, I won't/can't go. So with my wife and grandson that is three less on the attendance figures. Stupid idea. Would be interesting to see how many of us old un's who do not do modern technology don't bother going.

sod off Well done Max tonight.

Thing is, a slower rider CAN win with superior trackcraft - which he hasn't developed yet.

The strange thing is that he frequently gets into a good position coming out of the second bend, only to sit and watch as everybody goes past him like he's standing still... He obviously lacks speed, though, particularly when he's at the back.

Bit of carnage !!! and we lose 4 with 18 moving on to Prague in 2 weeks time Leaderboard after round 2 Warsaw Shrewsbury Wolf £3300 Lorenzo 558 £2850 london Racer £2850 therefused £1400 r8gdp £900 Col £876 tintin £825 Full-throttle £800 June 01 £800 Red Flag £700 Psycho3a £650 Hilly £600 Dawkins 20 £350 Racers and Royals £350 Robbie B £300 Susans 1 £300 Icescot £50 speedwaysliders £10 WE LOSE gmarsbar 2 --£25 Salty --£25 TTT --£350 Maverick 88 --£450 Spread for Prague i should post on Monday 23rd

GP points positions 1 to 8 1st 20 points Fricke 2nd 18 points Madsen 3rd 16 points Lindgren 4th 14 points Michelsen 5th 12 points Zmarzlik 6th 11 points Janowski 7th 10 points Woffinden 8th 9 points Przedpelski

You can see why Ipswich fans find Cameron Heeps so frustrating, loads of ability but a lack of application of that ability. He's been very hit and miss so far, as has Kyle Newman. As Ipswich have now dropped him he really needs to pull his socks up at CL level. I hope it just clicks for both of them and they get a few decent scores under their belts. We also have to remember we have no home track advantage at the moment. For away teams it's not so much a problem as they have to adjust whenever they go to a track.

Anyone think they ve slightly overwatered the track

If they going to water every 4 races….. why so much water.

As expected.....

It`s due any day now- she is married to one of the bosses of Onesport Jan Konikiewicz

I can sell you a Bees programme board. Very reasonable.

I’m on Zmarzlik under also - to score 14 on a temp track is a huge ask, regardless of what an absolute machine Zmarzlik is. Im also on Drabik over 6 as I fancy him to make the semis tonight. A few other tempters in Doyle over 6 and Bewley under 7.

Rolling averages dont tell the full story though. On this seasons meetings he will be much higher than 7

Only if they bring a programme board with them....

Fair one, Lambert superb score somewhat surprising, makes Plymouths victory at ewr even more impressive.

Keep taking your medication Lewy

Just 9 points and 2 bonus from 4 Monarchs on their home track is not a statistic to remember fondly - even against a title challenging team like Leicester.

2 confirmed new reserves full time for Plymouth. Ben Morley and Harry Mcgurk. Ben is an obvious one and we know rides the home track well and Harry is by all accounts a bright prospect and hopefully he can add and develop. search for a number one continues but can’t be disappointed with the effort mark and Gary are putting in by trying at-least 16 different riders

Poor form really and shows the clumsiness of a new promotion being guided by you know who. Signing clearly made to get to the tapes for the first few meetings, season tickets and any other advance tickets all sold under false pretences. My thoughts go to all fans who are trying to support a club and are being fed the smelly brown stuff repeatedly. As ive said on other threads the paying public aren't completely stupid, an honest and open announcement from clubs at various stages goes a long way. Instead Brum have served up the signing of the British Champion for the upcoming season.....poor form.

CMA's are League meetings only not including Play Offs.

I honestly don’t understand what all the fuss is about using guests. Plymouth started the season with a full 7 riders and have lost 2 to serious injuries and 1 rider has quit the team so the situation is not of their own making. We know from pre season that teams were struggling to even fill their teams so there isn’t going to be a long list of riders out there to replace them with. As a spectator, I would rather spend my money going to to a meeting and watching a team with guests if needs be in order to make it a good meeting to watch with similar strength teams on track rather than punish their misfortune.