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Poole over the years have offered riders way more than anyone else to get them so its a bit of karma seeing one of their riders head elsewhere for more money! Reading some of their fans meltdowns on here has been quality.

I no I give Poole fans some stick but I genuinely have no malice towards them as I have very fond memories of playing football against Poole. Town at Wimborne road about 30 years ago in the beazer homes league it always sticks in my mind because of the shape of the track you had to have artificial corners put in and that the fans could hardly see because they were so far away because of the greyhound track and the speedway track.but still fond memories, I do feel like you have been shafted by the owners of the stadium and over the basso situation but it feels just like we do over the Lawson thing I would like to wish all Poole fans a merry Christmas and your situation gets sorted so we can both renew rivalries next year. Good luck and stay safe all of you.

Time to give Poole council a nudge I believe. Nothing wrong with making sure the council know the fans are worried about the leaseholder. A short and clear message that Poole fans are a little worried that the leaseholder is asking for ridiculous rent increases when it is not prepared to run any sports themselves would suffice. This guy is leader of the council. Drew.Mellor@bcpcouncil.gov.uk I sent this short message. Dear Mr Mellor, I am hearing rumours that there is an issue at Poole Stadium and the continued use of the stadium by Poole Pirates Speedway, due to the lease holder trying to increase the rent by an amount far beyond the regular annual increase. Whilst all businesses are struggling at this difficult time, for a lease holder to try and exploit the situation is frankly unacceptable. The lease holder seems unfit to hold the lease, considering all it does is charge for the car park and offer nothing else. What benefits does it offer the people of Poole? It does not offer any sports at the stadium. If it were not for the speedway the stadium would be classed as obsolete. The speedway is extremely popular with the people of Poole, Bournemouth and surrounding areas and the crowds have held up well at a time when covid has been a hard felt issue. It brings kudos to the town, brings in fans from other clubs who spend money in the area, and the team has a reputation as being winners. Now is the time to back our club, stop these nonsense demands from the leaseholder and make sure the sport continues and goes from strength to strength in future years. With kind regards and a Merry Christmas,  Steve Shovlar

Never noticed you ranting

Great signing by Newcastle. The other day i was wondering what Lee Complin was doing these days and now he has signed for the Diamonds. He was a natural on a bike so i'm sure that it won't take too long to get back up to speed (literally).

That’s not very good maths

Add in bringing over regularly the next global 'four point superstar' who would invariably go on to heat leader standard very quickly... What Matt Ford knew though was that if not challenging for honours then crowds dipped quite significantly, and sponsor's deals became less valued, hence speculated to accumulate, but with a fair degree of calculated 'certainty' of success given the teams he put together.. However he also realised that when the 'global brands' stopped riding over here he would be better served dropping down a division, being successful which provided 'decent crowds' and happy sponsors, and paying out top league riders 2nd Div pay scales, (and maybe a bit more?), but no longer paying out full Div One money... He has always ran Poole as a stand alone business which has had to make money and fair play to the guy for doing so.. You could argue that when you throw over a couple of hundred thousand of 'disposable cash' at your hobby, in such a tiny sport, it really isnt any sort of achievement even when you win something...

You quoted you are going to sit in your house and wind the Newcastle supporters up! My point is teams may struggle with cash I’m not saying Poole will as they are a well run club but to slag peoples teams for being weak is pathetic. I tell you now I’d watch any team at brough park every Sunday just to get to watch speedway and the riders would get my full backing good or bad. Embrace it yourself enjoy it good or bad don’t just sit behind a phone or computer slagging clubs because it could easily happen to the team you support one day. And believe me it’s not a nice feeling going to your last meeting last season to support the club you have followed since 1992 thinking it was the end forever. I’ll have the weak team any day no problem.

All Anti-Vaxxers are ignorant idiots

See we are promoting an Evening with Peter Carr on EM-TV on Christmas Eve. Our first signing for 2022. Would sure trump Complin’s comeback.

Yes maybe, but its not the amount its the guarantee of actually being paid regularly!!

Your thinking of the ARC group who own Birmingham, Newcastle and Sittingbourne, different landlords at Poole...

The stadium was a graveyard for football when it was there before was a regular supporter in them days .and then came along was Derek block with his big ideas .bracksome rec was ideal but that was scuppered

I read somewhere that speedway often flourishes during Labour governments. I gather speedway today resembles the current party we have in charge.

Little way off the mark one feels

They don't sign for Poole just for the money, the club has that winning mentality, hence the bolging trophy cabinet, that's why they choose Poole, plus guaranteed of being paid on time

Perhaps he meant 'drawing' ?

That's sexist We don't want any of that on here.

There was a few raised eyebrows when rob announced James Wright & he did a decent job last season & if James keeps his starting average or improves on it & say lee moves down to reserve then averages 5&half at home & 4 away well that'll be decent... At the end of the day we have another season of speedway at Newcastle to enjoy

Just wondering if with Poole seemingly in limbo whether a cheeky call to King, Lawson or Worrall might pay off. Any one of those 3, especially Danny might transform team building. We all know if the shoe was on the other foot that the Ford's would be on it by now.

No they don’t come “cheap”. They come within the budget of what the club can afford, considering the fanbase size and sponsorship level. Bringing over 2 Aussies is no different in the scheme of things. They both live at Middlos, so have to pay rent and keep to him. Signing a “top rated” but not proven yet young Brit is no more expensive than any other British reserve. They get paid on points scored. And being at Poole means they get paid what they are owed, on time.

Other clubs spending a fortune to buy the title. Because three number one's come cheap. Because bringing two rider's over from Australia and putting them up in a guest house comes cheap. Signing one of top rated young British riders was done on the cheap?

If you could potentially get someone like Vissing at number 1 then the side doesn't look too bad, but speaking from a Diamonds perspective we had it last season we didn't have a proper number 1 and if you start the season with Auty at 1 it will be a long season... regardless though good to see Birmingham coming to the tapes.

Here we go again “ The Grim Reeper “ is back , let’s get the season started and we will do a half term report . I believe the side put together is a decent one , I would love to know if Leicester tried to keep Dougy or if his foreign commitments didn’t help .I’m pleased with the team

I see my answer confused Diamonds85 so I'll make it even simpler No it doesn't round up to 4.89 and yes you are way off.

He maybe now bjarne pedersen has retired.

The BSPA only go to 2dp. 3dp is only used if two riders in a team are equal at 2dp. At 3dp Danyon is still 4.88.

That MX bike above looks incredible and it isn't expensive compared to the current top of the range bikes either. I've picked up my electric trials bike and am incredibly happy with it. Probably somewhere about the same sort of power as a 200cc petrol trials bike but incredibly easy to ride and virtually silent. We had it out playing about 20 yards from a school where my Granddaughter was having a horse riding lesson and the horse never took the blindest bit of notice. More to the point nor did any of the horsey people at the yard apart from a couple who came over to show some interest. My horses don't take any notice of it either and if it was 40 yards away in the woods you would never know it was there. Takes motorcycling into the same sphere as horse riding for me, the opportunity to ride every day locally without complaints. Big difference to last year with the flat tracker when I was able to ride just 8 times in the whole year. Might not take over motorsport but will certainly compliment it for many.

Aaaaaarrrrrrgh ow ow ow eya eya eya the burn... the BURN... NURSE NURSE Get the Savlon... quick... Although Christmas is one of our busiest periods I cant let this go now can I and as busy as I am I will dignify you with a reply... Honestly... and after all it is Christmas Time... Peace on Earth and good will to all men and all that or in your case "Peese on You" Well now @Wee Eck is that really the best you can come up with... the sparkling wit and repartee of Wee Nonce Troll McTrollface states... that not only am I a waste of space but the biggest one that walks on the earth.. wow I'm hurt... really hurt... I mean "cut me do I not bleed" which as a saying from the Merchant of Venice will probably be wasted on a moron like your good self... although the meaning and context of using that statement is most apt in this situation... “In sooth, I know not why I am so sad.” “Let me play the fool.” “If to do were as easy as to know what were good to do, chapels had been churches, and poor men's cottages princes' palaces.” Brilliant eh? old Shakespeare could turn a phrase mind like eh... now that's a burn Eck... Whoosh... So you do a little digging to find out that in fact it is true on the VAT fiddle Johnnie English and the previous shower had been tarnished with was correct... but because you didn't believe what you were told you still persist in pushing your own little agenda against Rob Grant and Newcastle and that it is a fact that the previous Promotion left Rob Grant with "a debt to HMRC of £158,048" as you have since confirmed yourself... but that's the best you can come back with as a slight to my good self... well I am disappointed... just to expand on that point where do you think I get my information from... think now... not to hard cos straining like that might cause you to poop your pants... yes that's right the same place you have been trolling on the internet... however I used to get my information cross checked and authorised for posting by... go on... Think again... no? The Promotion... yep that's right before I put anything contentious on here it was vetted and checked for its accuracy by none other than the New Newcastle Promotion... If you are going to be a Troll Eck at least get your facts right and don't post details yourself that prove you are talking complete and utter Crepe as it takes the fun out of correcting you.... what are you doing? marking your own homework? what a Gobsh!te... Now where I am happy for you to have an opinion... don't try and qualify "your opinion" by saying that "your opinion" is "shared by many I know" because that is like all of your posts... just another made up sentence, an outright lie; something to try and add weight to a non-existent argument... you may wish to add on the end that "we've got a garden" "my brothers 21" and the other old classic "your dad is bigger than my dad" however coming back to my dad is bigger than your dad... I just wish my dad had of been gay because I would have loved to have had a gay dad. So when you do say, my dad's bigger than your dad, my dad will batter your dad! so what? my dad will shag your dad. and your dad will enjoy it. (and so would you Eck I am guessing) (Plagiarised from the brilliant Frankie Boyle)(you looking for the Savlon yet Eck) Now to be fair to be called the "biggest waste of space that walks the earth" is rather hurtful after all I do for charity through my business and for all the cash I have injected into Speedway over many years and especially when you see some of these Politicians and the Anti Vax brigade... wow... now that's what I would call a waste of space... however all I can say is there's not an emoji to express my heartfelt sorrow... but to be fair it is one of the cleanest insults I have had for a long while so thanks for that and it isn't as bad as being called a "Roger Hunt" or "Merchant Banker" that you must have been called on numerous occasions... and just to digress the one I dislike the most is the "illegitimate" word which brings your parentage into disrepute as I can confirm that I knew my father and both he and my mother were married and I was both conceived and born in wedlock... unlike you I would suggest... who is best described as "a file having teeth of a grade next finer than coarse" (bit of Google research needed for you there Mr Troll McTrollface just to keep it interesting so search on the line between the quotation marks). Negativity and Ignorance? well are you talking about yourself here as 1. I don't have a negative bone in my body and 2. how can you refer to someone who quotes famous Bards and refers to subjects in Latin as Ignorant; I try to educate morons like you on here and raise the tone and I certainly don't Troll the B'Jesus out of posters on here when there is a subject I disagree with and to be "Totally Honest" I have been known (sometimes) to put a long winded reply on here now and then (once or twice maybe) however I try to interject that with humour; fun facts and the truth; and as a Libertarian I don't believe in keeping secrets... or am I reading to much into your comments and that you consider me of having "Negative Ignorance" which is in fact a compliment as today Ignorance is actually a cool concept and more complicated than people like to ponder. For Example "As someone who grew up in a city I had negative ignorance of how to drive a tractor. My country spouse had negative ignorance about navigating public transportation. Both of us overcame those. Had I chosen to refuse to learn how to drive the tractor after I lived on a farm and had one that would have become privative ignorance. As in, I had the option, and wherewithal, to gather the information and I chose not to. Negative ignorance is when someone should not be reasonably blamed for not knowing something. however thinking about that... you are surely describing yourself in this instance you moron... So in your knowledgeable; expert; smart ass; wise cracking; snide opinion "Newcastle speedway is far better off since you were given the bum’s rush by its owner" well let me answer that little one liner and I will come back to the "apparently" at the end... You are using words which I doubt you have any idea of there context or meaning. Bum's Rush or "the bum's rush" is what would happen if a vagrant entered a saloon, hoping to take advantage of "the sometimes sumptuous free lunch counters, which were meant for drinkers only." The freeloader would be forcibly removed from the premises. Now are you suggesting for one minute that I am a "Freeloader" the man who with his pal funded the bar at Brough (for many a year)... I spent between £150 to £250 quid on food and drink every meeting last season at Brough as did my old pal Doug Lawson; both of us always happy to buy a pint (or drink of choice) and that was for anyone not just the mob I was socialising with... furthermore £4500 direct to the club and its riders last season... The promotion have put out already that they are looking for sponsors for riders to support them and if last year was to be repeated the club have lost that £3000 of direct support and the additional £1500 quid that went into last years riders so I would suggest it is the other way round and that I have given the club the "Bums Rush" rather than how you have tried to interpret it you illiterate moron... of course you could always take over this mantle if you wish and you put your money where your mouth is you Gobsh!te (and I will come back to this word later if I may)... Now what I will add is... that unlike the previous promotion who you so dearly loved and have supported on here with vim and vigour.. and with a pack of made up lies and fabrications of epic proportions; Rob Grant has always been straight and honest with me in the past unlike the clandestine meetings I had with the former lot in the Costa Coffee opposite Newcastle Civic Centre in town or the M&S Café on the Silverlink... When they would "Pee up your leg and try and tell you it was raining" Rob has a good team behind him now and yes we had a disagreement and he has a new substantial backer who will input far more capital than I ever would so even the full sponsorship pot that was available from my company will be well covered by his new main sponsor and after our little "tet a tet" and a meeting last week with Dave Tinning I have chosen (me) to step back (my choice); and if someone gave you 5 grand a year for free would you be better off... no you would give them the Bums Rush... PMSL what a half wit... Apparently!!! another word you slip in as a cover all at the end to try and support your comments... which proves you are talking complete and utter Crepe and trying to qualify the tripe you have penned with "Apparently"... The definition of Apparently is as follows "You use apparently to indicate that the information you are giving is something that you have heard, but you are not certain that it is true"... or in your case spouting a "factual inexactitude" as ever. You make stuff up and qualify it as heard from a source Apparently... is that a Red or a Brown Source (sauce lol get it) (never mind here is another subtle interlude that you wont get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M&ab_channel=CoooLverstukas ) Which brings me finally onto "Gobsh!te" which describes you to a Tee @Wee Eck used as a noun Chiefly Irish Slang: and Vulgar. using the following description "a mean and contemptible person, especially a braggart. a stupid and incompetent person"... However I still do like Wee Nonce Troll McTrollface... but if the cap fits Biffa you should wear it... Merry Christmas you filthy Animal and a Happy new Year... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NozVpZj4i2Q&ab_channel=sophia7gr Nurse cancel the Savlon am okay now... Regards Mr Courtney For all those who are of a more cheerful disposition and for all the kind comment made thank you very much Have a very safe and Happy Christmas and an equally safe but brilliant New Year

Piotr Pawlicki, Nicki Pedersen, Grigory Laguta, Janusz Kolodziej... All big names that aren't in GPs... Not suggesting they're realistic, but still big names that aren't in GPs

One of the best performances from an away rider for me was Rasmus Jensen for Glasgow a couple of seasons back

Oh it would be awesome pal. He was box office for us. Hed always balls ht 1 up then be majestic thereafter, usually from off the pace too. Made those mediocre nights bearable alone at times. He would be box office round the national stadium

riders go where the money is thats the facts these days

Fair point iainb but they are all to blame really for letting speedway irreversibly decline into a Micky Mouse sport. I no promoters at times do have there differences but Im told that Chapman and Godfrey are even disliked and not trusted by there fellow promoters. So no wonder uk speedway is in a terminal mess.

I know its "silly season" but there is a line.....

Alex Harkess was the one for me, he was the one sat in charge during the Sky years and ran the sport into the ground

scunthorpe look better next season .plymouth do look good .anyway hope you get a couple of decent riders to finish your team of

Plymouth still looking the best line-up to me.....lets see what Poole come up with?

Surprised by Neilsen signing, he's been a rider allot of people thought had potential for a while, some still do, but it's never come to fruition. Thought he was too fashionable for Perry Barr. Losing Castagna is a double edged sword. His scores are poor away from PB, but he single handedly won some home meetings for the Brummies last year with 7 rides from reserve.

I think Allen will have a good year next season he wasn't properly prepared because he came over last minute so I think with a proper winter behind him he will be in for a good year next season.

Don't start any trouble, there's loads of them if it kicks off lol.

No Gary not unlike you and yours a couple of year back av had enough and at present I very much think that's it... It will save me a 90 mile trek across the A69 each Sunday and I can have Sunday lunch with a few beers in Maryport... I had a good run from 1968 to 2021 with a few gaps I might add but I have had all the enthusiasm drained from me and I dont need the hassle... Ruff I haven't commented on this Team but what I will remind folk of is this... in 2018 Workington were written off before a wheel was turned and the main comment was that the team were stiched on for the Wooden Spoon... and look what happened... H18tory as our Cumbrian bretheren like to point out... I still have the Bumper Edition of the Speedway Star for the start of that year and no one gave them a chance... Weak team on paper... so what... it ain't the paper that gets the results... a result is a 46 - 44 win and are 6 members of that team capable of a 7ish average with the reserve coming in on a 4... it's not beyond the realm of possibilities for me... There is a great deal to be said for strength in depth... get on the BSPL web site and check the teams and the averages in the Archive section for that 2018 season... young Kyle didnt break a 2 avaverage I think... it's a big ask but it is doable.... and it depends on loads of factors... Regards THJ

Of course everything was so much better before Chapman came along

In fairness your assumption for away is probably accurate. However at home Ryan D will be all out number 1 by the end of season with Jake not far behind him can see lots of improvement in Jordan and Zaine . Tero and Simon will maintain there averages and Ryan K should be ok so see plenty of entertaining home wins with the odd defeat . Play off spot will depend on if they can get anything away which is doubtful

Do you really think Poole are in trouble or just in negotiations for a cheaper rent surely they will still run even if the rent can't be changed?

No and then yes.

Yes , Erik’s average was low in 84 due to tape exclusions, partly due to struggling with the new rules and partly through Cradley lowering their early season averages to strengthen the team after it was decimated by the massive 83 team. !!!!

Get back to the ironing board Lisa.

Stadia UK have an agreement with the council that is due to last another 17 years, based on them running 2 sports out the stadium which they no longer do. The are pushing for a very large increase in rent with no extra service supply. Bottom line, the council own the stadium and it is sub contracted to stadia UK, if they are being un-reasonable the club are well in their right to take this up with the land owner and get their support!

Exactly what I said but it went down the wrong way with Poole fans.