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Fundin on the podium for 10 years on the trot , missed 1966 was banned back in 1967 to win it a bloody remarkable run of consistency3 points
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Great to see a live meeting. some good racing..... inevitable that some riders starved of racing or practice did not show their true form... Very impressed with Jordan Palin’s racing ability at this level ...augurs well for the future. Great to see Dan riding so well. Ultimately we had a meeting and still have had continuous racing since 1928... Well done Belle Vue2 points
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Damian is a Leszno junior, aged 15- he turns 16 next May( 23rd). This is a video of Tuesday`s Zielona Gora staged junior match in which he rides. He needs to work on his gating but seems to have a great racing brain for someone so young. Anyone else impressed ?1 point
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RIP Bernie, he was Mr Cradley for a number of years, for me he was up their with the best riders Cradley have had over the years.1 point
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No villageidiot, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit1 point
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It’s a sad reflection on a Professional Sport that the best riders don't get a equal chance of reaching the Top wherever they were born.IMO. It doesn’t happen in other forms of Motorbike Sport.1 point
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I can`t wait for them to show the 3rd/4th place matches live and the final matches on delayed1 point
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Totally agree with you Sydney, That five year ban was a joke aimed solely to stop him riding. When his appeal was heard on the day of the British final , because the case was so fictitious, everyone assume it would be thrown out of court leaving him free to ride in the final that night. Hundred of supporters travelled to Coventry believing he would ride only to be informed over the loudspeaker, that the BSPA then concocted another offence against him with this time a 12 month ban instead of the five year one. It was so obvious to each and everyone one of us that they were out to get him no matter what........ I can personally name 6 people who travelled to that British final that night who, on hearing the announcement, packed up and went straight home, never to go to another speedway meeting again.... Since that day in question the belief of many Stars supporters have never been so keen as they were years gone by. When somebody Like Michael Lee comes along to grace our sport, one would have thought the powers in charge would do everything in their power to use situation to elevate this sport to greater heights, But it appeared these people were so jealous of his ability to enthral vast crowd they did their upmost to destroy him... Its no surprise, when thinking back 40 years, when we ruled the world, and this sport was compared with football , that we are now the poor relation when neither the fans nor the riders want to participate. and how much blame can be proportioned to the people who made all those dreadful decisions....1 point
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Can remember Bernie riding for Sweden v Great Britain 1968 at Swindon. Officially 12000 there, but I was one of thousands that climbed in! Britain won that third test, home riders Ashby 15, Broady 14, Jansson 15, Michanek 14 for the Swedes. Mauger and Fundin poor scoring that night, no points for Bernie. Sweden won series 2-1. Michanek was underrated.1 point
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If I had to pick one, Ove would just pip Ivan. Hans and Briggo right up there as best I've seen.1 point
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When Michael won the World Championship, I was on holiday in Spain. Desperate to know the result, (in the days before mobile phones and the internet), I decided to place a phone call from my Spanish hotel reception to my Dad who was keeping an eye on the result in the newspaper. When he read me the result over the phone, I leapt out of the phone booth shouting Yes..yes...yes! The spanish girl on reception must have thought I was mad! Great days and such a talent on a bike. One wonders just what would have happened, had he really applied his skill to the sport.1 point
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IMO no Russians should be in the series with what Mr. Putin was up to in Salisbury, and with what poor Mr, Alexei Navalny has gone through. Just as with athletics a stand, however feeble it may be, is called for. You shouldn't be able to go around the world poisoning people and expect to get away with it. Sorry for the Russian riders if it happened but only the Russian people can realistically have any effect on this lunatic.1 point
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One wonders if British Speedway actually knows who their demographic is, I know it likes to think of itself as a "family sport" but from what I see on the terraces it seems to be an old persons sport even though the competitors probably see it as an extreme sport, so who do you aim your stream and pricing at? I don't agree that "the stream needs to be aimed at those who dont attend Speedway regularly but know it exists and maybe used to follow it" or the neutral... I consider myself a fan of F1 but have never been to a race, having said that I do subscribe to the F1 channel, I also quite like to watch the odd Football match but would never pay to attend one or watch one on PPV TV... it's really quite complex when you start to think about it. Maybe they could/should be looking to team up with their "broadcast partner" to see how this can be made financially viable, maybe using the Eurosport Player1 point
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They will have just one idea- get out of there with the least possible cost to them.1 point
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Vojens staged final on Wednesday 30th September is live on TV 2 Sport meeting starts at 6 pm UK time 1. Leon Madsen 2. Peter Kildemand 3. Frederik Jacobsen 4. Nicki Pedersen 5. Rene Bach 6. Jonas Jeppesen 7. Mads Hansen 8. Nicolai Klindt 9. Marcus Birkemose 10. Kenneth Kruse Hansen 11. Anders Thomsen 12. Mikkel Bech Jensen 13. Andreas Lyager Hansen 14. Rasmus Jensen 15. Niels-Kristian Iversen 16. Kenneth Bjerre Reserver 17. Lasse Bjerre 18. Thomas Jørgensen1 point
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Obviously these 2 events are different as no fans are allowed in, but in the future if streaming is continued when fans are present the price can't be set too low as this will then effect the attendance, home fans would stay at home if the stream is cheap. It needs to be targeted at away fans and neutrals who don't want to take time off work and drive a long distance with additional expenses to watch. So for example £12 would be lot cheaper and convenient for them but £12 would hopefully mean most home fans would actually go and pay the £18 to watch it live.1 point
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Spot on in the top five all time greats Steve.1 point
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I have read comments around how cheap it is at £10 compared to going as eg "all the family can watch" with the suggestion that if you paid to watch it live the cost of two admissions at adult level and two at kids level, with food, drink etc would be around £50 to £60.. I think that misses the point.. The stream needs to be aimed at those who dont attend Speedway regularly but know it exists and maybe used to follow it, and also the many thousands of fans around the country who have no affinity to either side on show. And the amount of 'families' who go is minimal when up against those who attend alone I would say.. If I wont pay £18 to watch it live now, then I probably wont pay £10 to watch it on TV.. Especially given you can watch so much Speedway on BT, Eurosport and Premier from the comfort of your armchair, (which you have already shelled out a good few quid a month for).. I would imagine given the pandemic the streams will be a perfect time for a 'toe in the water' to see how it goes, and I hope it goes well.. But going forwards when up against the Satellite broadcasters who can provide around 15 to 20 meetings a month for circa £60, then I would think the £5 per meeting price point will be nearer the mark than a £10 one to get fans to purchase the meetings 'regularly'.. Maybe with the technology of today, the stream could be blocked locally around the home teams area to encourage fans to attend, but to be honest I would think that the vast majority of regulars who still go now would go anyway, so it's not really them you will appeal to via a stream. Unless its maybe 50/50 if a meeting will go ahead due to poor weather, but even then you will still be getting some revenue in rather than zero if they stay away as many do at present when it looks like a meeting could be called off.. The target audience for any stream has to be the utopian "everyone who follows the sport in the country that wont be there in person", which is a massive market even for Speedway.. On a 'normal' week, if every track had a meeting I would suggest 20,000 to 25,000 or so will attend, many of whom will watch 'any speedway' on TV... I would also suggest at least that many again (and probably many more) still follow the sport but hardly attend (if at all). These people currently pay no money directly into the sports coffers yet many will have used to put "plenty" in until they finally 'gave up' with UK Speedway. Yet still watch as much of the sport as they can via TV. You only have to look at the high 5, and sometimes over 6 figure viewing figures for Sky and BT over the past ten years, to see that the interest is still very much out there in the UK to watch domestic Speedway.. Get the pricing right and it could be a real winner for the sport as a collective, however, I do think that working as a collective is the key.. If clubs do it as individuals, and stand alone, then I dont think it would be anywhere near as successful as all working together to share costs and share profits, maybe with exclusivity deals to broadcasters to maximise that potential and deliver a consistent quality of stream.. Speedway has more % 'neutral' fans than a great many other team sports, fans who just love watching the racing, so streaming could be a great way to harness that and make some real money for the sport as a whole.. Streaming really could be a game changer for clubs and the sport in the UK, with, as just one example, more revenue coming in from local businesses who can build their brand awareness by advertising during the stream to the locality that they serve. Speedway has so many natural breaks it would be perfect to use some of the time as advertising slots.. But again, it will only ultimately work if that price point is right and you get enough people to sign up to it regularly..1 point
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Didn't you actually post an email on here first? So in affect, you made it public first. The whole season ticket thing is something that baffles me. Over a season, how much do you actually save? Just pay for the meetings you attend, so what if a season ticket saves you 50 quid a season. Stinks of tightness to me.1 point
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Think Fundin did 10 years on the bounce too!!1 point
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If Lindback isn't given a wild-card for next year's series, that means all 16 riders will be white. Who is actually responsible for the lack of diversity in speedway? Is it the BSI or FIM?1 point
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It just shows how much Paul wants Archie to achieve his speedway dream , I would imagine he ( possibly with some sponsors help ) spent a few quid on fuel etc doing those three meetings.1 point
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For me superb quality. This is the way forward, don't know the costing involved but if the clubs can make money from pay per view it has to be done1 point
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but worldwide there must be tousands, if into tens of thousands in with the snouts in the trough. Being as there must be so many surely at least one if not more will blow the gaff to tell the world who these unknown uper powers are.1 point
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Interesting set of figures those Sid. They really were great Riders, weren't they? Good Post.1 point
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Let's say £5k for arguments sake. Do you think it would be easier to persuade 500 people to pay £10 each to stream the meeting or 1,250 at £4 to stream the meeting? I'd say 1,250 at £4 is a far easier sell than 500 @ £10.1 point
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Robert Lambert piping up on twitter wanting a free link & moaning about £12.50 to watch it, The absolute rubbishhousery of the lad, while British speedway is on it's financial ar$e1 point
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I don't blame him for blowing his top. I've been to two non league FA cup ties this week, with good crowds inside the grounds. I would have felt perfectly safe at Ipswich, social distancing in a large capacity stadium.1 point
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Although I've no complaints about Jack Holder getting the Wildcard I'm a little disappointed the already qualified SEC winner Robert Lambert hasn't had a shout for any of these rounds.1 point
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There seems to be a growing "conflict" between those that "deserve" to be in the GP series and those that are chosen to be in it. Those that deserve a place via their finishing position in the series has been reduced from 8 to 6. Thus, those that can "qualify" via other means has therefore increased. The winner of the European Championship is one way most would support (maybe?). We, in the UK, might be a little biased just now. The timing and allowable entries into the Challenge has been widely criticised and I for one find it a little bemusing watching a competitor in the current championship who could score zero races points in all 8 GPs but still knows that he quaifies for next year's championship. And at the same time, we rip up a perfectly good scoring system because we dislike the fact that a GP winner may not be the top championship scorer on the night. A strange set of inconsistent standards in my view. And then we have the national political view. I'm not talking about politics in the normal sense. Rather I refer to the "need" to have a balanced set of different nationalities in the series. This is admiral in one sense, in that the governing body wish to make this a world series. But we've seen how wildcards have been awarded in the past which are hardly justified from a sporting standpoint but seemily based on ensuring a good attendance at certain GPs. We have to take stock. The GP series has completely supplanted the old one off World Final. The purists can continue to debate the point, but that ship has sailed. There is a political element to who participates in the championship. Some countries (actually one) dominates the sporting panorama just now [temporary]. TV is a big influence. But surely, the concept of fairness has to ultimately rule? We, as fans, many of us for a lot of years, can see a sporting unfairness when we see it. Surely, what we want, without necessarily know how to get it, is to have the best in the World competing for the ultimate goal?1 point
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Is it just me or have a lot of the races shown recently on Premier frozen, then suddenly fast forwarded? And why do the bikes sound so quiet?1 point
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He's right though. Poland shouldn't have been allowed to stage this on a Tuesday since Tuesdays are reserved for Sweden. But Poland is Poland and they don't give a damn about any other country/league.1 point
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That's why charging a one off event fee will not work in my opinion. Boxing does PPV for one off title fights that the public will pay, although I never have, but I have watched them down the pub. But then they've also got a Box Nation subscription channel on Sky. I'd perhaps pay for a season ticket but not one off events at over a tenner a pop1 point
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So all the governments around the world must be telling lies cause this bogus virus story is pretty universal and hitting a second time in lots of places. If it’s a load of lies there must be thousands upon thousands around the world complicent to the lie which to me sounds incredible.1 point
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Sad to see political comments on this site....especially ones spouting bile as we see above. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but please keep politics off this site....it simply makes you look bigoted and stupid.1 point
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Having in the past seen my football team fall foul of so many poor refereeing or linesman decisions after watching the replays on M.O.TD I was always in favour of technology to eliminate injustices. However after witnessing the farce of VAR completely ruining the Premier League in my opinion, I would be against using it in Speedway. It's easy to watch the slow Mo's in retrospect and criticise the referee who has to make a split second call on if it's a perfect start or a jump but I'd rather live with the odd mistake being made than go down the technology route to be honest. We enjoyed Speedway's best years without it.1 point
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100 editions - that's some milestone I remember picking up that first edition and subscribing at the Stoneleigh event Also remember the celebrations of Fisher and Janniro in the car park at securing the purchase of a 2nd hand transit - it never ceases to amaze me how excited Americans can get over the most mundane of things1 point
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Tomorrow's meeting Lodz v Bydgoszcz postponed due to a bad forecast for rain.0 points
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