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Well after just reading a post on facebook & people having a go about either joe or dan Thompson replacing Kyle bickley in the british final at Ipswich... Well i'm astounded to read the criticism of our young & up & coming talent for instance do people not realise whilst holding down full time jobs like Newcastle's Archie Freeman's dad paul drove and mechanicked for his son on Friday Edinburgh then sunday Scunthorpe then in Monday all the way down to Plymouth fir his boy to do the best he can is pretty fantastic I can say... But just remember you doubters in the future if it ain't for our young lions trying there best now we may not have speedway in 10 years or so time

So all the governments around the world must be telling lies cause this bogus virus story is pretty universal and hitting a second time in lots of places. If it’s a load of lies there must be thousands upon thousands around the world complicent to the lie which to me sounds incredible.

I might consider it at £3-4 but definitely not a tenner. I wonder how much market research they did to come up with this price point.

From the comments here I taske it Plymouth's streaming must have been loss-making at $4.99/c.£3.80. I bought a pass for this and the Edinburgh BYC staging at £5 and feel I got fair value for money. At that price point I DO expect grass roots racing covered by one camera and that's what I got. The Plymouth presentation was delightfully semi-chaotic while sadly the Edinburgh production was bedevilled by connectivity problems. They did the decent thing by apologising to subscribers directly and offering partial refunds along with explanations of the problems and how they would be resolved in future. At that price point you couldn't really expect much more but I watched two entertaining meetings in this barren 'season'. I've bought a pass for tonight's Belle Vue event and am happy to pay £10 for a SportCentral production with greater resources and professional commentary, also taking into account the costlier standard of riders employed. I'd equally be happy to pay £12.95 for the British Final if I didn't have other commitments over the weekend. Not all speedway meetings are run at the same level of ability and costs just as not all streaming or video is the same, so multiple price points are relevant. £12.95 for Plymouth or Edinburgh would have been too much. Equally £5 would be far too low for Belle Vue or Ipswich. What I would hate would that the Plymouth/Edinburgh-style events could not be repeated if the requirement was to do a multi-camera TV standard production at £12.95. The level and cost of the streaming should be dependent on the nature of the meeting. If Plymouth and Edinburgh were to stream weekly in the £5-10 price band I'd be happy to subscribe weekly. SportCentral's experience in streaming ice hockey surely gives them the best insight into what level of production or price is right. I suspect the ice hockey and speedway markets are probably fairly similar. Ultimately you get what you pay for. One standard of coverage at one price is NOT the way forward. There's room for British Finals at £12.95 and Plymouth NDL matches at £3.80.

British speedway fans ..... ‘ why isn’t speedway moving with the times ?’ BSPA ....ok. ( during a worldwide pandemic) Here’s a livestream for the British final’ fans ..... bloody hell £13 !!!! Too dear... streaming ? I don’t have WiFi,.... I miss the smell.... I want greasy burger and chips.... BSPA... look. There’s people dying , this is the best we can do in the current situation. fans .... No way that’s it I’m done

Barry Briggs won the title 4 times was on the rostrum 6 times. - Ove Fundin won the title 5 times was on the rostrum 6 times. - Ivan Mauger won the title six times was on the rostrum 4 times. - Jason Crump won the title 3 times was placed 7 times on the rostrum. - Rickardsson won the title six times was placed 5 times on the rostrum all great riders terrific records.Crump to finish in the top three riders in the world ten years on the bounce is some achievement.

Traditional race sheet for 2020 British Final https://www.keepandshare.com/doc16/25054/british-champs-2020-2-pdf-833k?da=y

Great to see a live meeting. some good racing..... inevitable that some riders starved of racing or practice did not show their true form... Very impressed with Jordan Palin’s racing ability at this level ...augurs well for the future. Great to see Dan riding so well. Ultimately we had a meeting and still have had continuous racing since 1928... Well done Belle Vue

Robert Lambert piping up on twitter wanting a free link & moaning about £12.50 to watch it, The absolute rubbishhousery of the lad, while British speedway is on it's financial ar$e

I don't blame him for blowing his top. I've been to two non league FA cup ties this week, with good crowds inside the grounds. I would have felt perfectly safe at Ipswich, social distancing in a large capacity stadium.

For speedway, the government seem to have decided that the top two leagues are "Elite" and NDL downwards is "Grassroots". As other posters have said, it's largely down to whether most of the competitors at that level are deemed to be professional.

He's right though. Poland shouldn't have been allowed to stage this on a Tuesday since Tuesdays are reserved for Sweden. But Poland is Poland and they don't give a damn about any other country/league.

http://www.speedwaygb.co.uk/_mobile/news.php?extend.38378

Elite is when the participants earn the majority or all of their wages from the sport in question Grassroots is when the participants earnings from the sport are the minority of their income speedway unfortunately sits in both camps, Stock Cars sits only in the Grassroots box

That's why charging a one off event fee will not work in my opinion. Boxing does PPV for one off title fights that the public will pay, although I never have, but I have watched them down the pub. But then they've also got a Box Nation subscription channel on Sky. I'd perhaps pay for a season ticket but not one off events at over a tenner a pop

I think a cherry picker is your only option

imo iversen, dudek, michelsen and lindback shouldn't get a pick. Fricke needs to score well in Torun to stand a chance of a pick. Gregory Laguta would be a good addition but I am not sure they give 3 Russians a pick.

What about Hans? Four wins, six seconds and two thirds by my reckoning?

Exactly, very harsh, I'm sure he'll sharpen up given match practice, such a shame the way things have panned out for him. Great ride from Kurtz.

A bit harsh, given how long he has been out and that this is his first meeting

With no dogs, the dog track could either be done away with or be tarmaced and changed into a motocross/stocks circuit? The speedway track could be moved out maybe? The centre green could also be used for concerts/exhibitions/car shows/Karting (like Oxford)?. No doubt there are other activities that greater minds than mine can suggest.

still own milton keynes bowl i beiieve

See also https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/sport/were-down-already-and-they-keep-kicking-us-british-speedway-fears-for-future/ Perhaps we should start a separate thread about this e.g. Rob Godfrey blows his top!

Yes and anyone other than him would have got absolutely nowhere.!!!

Don’t be so thick !!!!! test does not mean practice test means Poland v Russia in Bydgoszcz

No consistency anywhere, no wonder people are fed up, as I said this Virus doesn't know whether fans are watching, speedway, football or any other sport so surely a percentage of the stadiums capacity could be allowed in and it would also help keep people employed.

At the weekend, a local football club, Gainsborough Trinity, held their 1st league match(Northern Premier I think, about div 8 or 9 to our top league) but because they were amateur standard, were allowed up to 600 fans in a 4300 capacity stadium(partly congested) yet you are not allowed 2000-3000 in a 50000+ stadium(less congested) as it is classed as professional.

actually skids i thought the statement from mr osborne was as good a news that poole speedway could have hoped for (ie"continue the other businesses") I think its pretty clear they intend to fullfill the legal obligations of their lease,so consequently no room for matts "consortium" but that wouldnt be necessary if the stadium is available for speedway anyway.An interesting point (initially raised by ts as r&r ) is what are these "alternative activities" ??

Actually, 3 are planned! Obviously awaiting the Covid clarification. Tuesday 29th Sept v Leicester Lion Cubs Saturday 10th October Colin Hill Memorial Saturday 17th October Plymouth v IoW I sincerely hope Mark gets the go ahead to run all of these.

THE key is also to ensure that the production is first class, as it will be for the British Final. That has to be factored into the asking price. Too often historically British speedway has endeavoured to do things on the cheap. A one-man band with a single camera won't work. Quality pictures, decent commentary, etc but this will cost. Personally, think £10 should be a minimum.

I reckon they'll go top 9 plus the 4 already qualified and 2 new faces

Who decided Speedway in the UK was an 'elite' sport? Was it the Govt or those who run it? Presume there had to be some set criteria? No disrespect to it but you could hardly put it at the same level as Football, Rugby, Cricket and Horse Racing.. Could it get reassessed I wonder? Go down the route of riders being semi pro at best? Many effectively 'pay to compete' given their outlay, similar to stock car drivers, so maybe the sport could be 'down graded' to whatever the stock car level is.. Change 'points money' to 'prize money' and could you then run the sport regularly at a 'non elite' level..?

In 1969 Dornier great rider 11.09???

Received mine the other day and read every page. 100 edition, lets hope for another 100 and many more. Well done to the team who produce this and keep fans like me still in touch with the sport while racing has temporary stopped

Well, who was correct?

totally agree BUT in this case i will subscribe to help support the sport - i think i saw somewhere if successful this service will be available next year for some matches that people can'y get to

Of course live is better but I will be supporting British speedway, have paid for the stream and hope to be able to watch it - if not then hey ho, I will know that I stood up to be counted and that it will have benefitted the sport in this country. I presume they are advertising the stream to those fans abroad in some way?

Yes have signed up if only to support the people who put so much effort into organising the event

That's good. I look forward to watching further streaming. I know WMTV's standards are high and there's not much you can do in last week's situation. I've also really enjoyed the Rewinds, especially Mike's distinctive commentaries.

I'm not that old,,, as far as speedway fans go,,, I'm not old at all.

No laptop, no tablet and no wi-fi..? Where do you live? In a cave?

Wiesław Dobruszek in his great "Mistrzostwa Świata Par" opus states expressly that 1970 Malmoe tournament was the first officially recognized World Pairs Final. 1968 Kempten was a trial meeting and after it had proven to be succesful FIM introduced the competition called FIM Best Pairs International Championship to the official fixture for 1969. In October 1969 during the FIM Congress at Ljubljana they at last decided to hold official World Pairs Championship starting from 1970. No word about posterior recognition 1969 final as the first official World Pairs Final.

I just get lines of text saying "You have chosen to ignore"

Save the covid stas to the covid thread please and not here.

Still the sad old dictator and know it all....give it a rest. You do whatever you like whilst the rest of us will follow and do what those that are running this country advise because that's the LAW. Now naff off back to the Covid thread with your pals so you can chew the fat about Coronavirus v Flu blah, blah, bleedin' blah 'til the cows come home.

More inane childish nonsense. I have only posted the facts. Indisputable facts, as provided by the government. The fact you get so worked up about them because they contradict what the media has told you speaks volumes. Keep scaremongering.. Keep killing.

Jeez, don't let B'Witcher or DC2 (and their clique) read that post. You'll get hung, drawn and quartered for posting such 'nonsense' (in their eyes) but common sense to most others. For the record I agree with you and if you don't comprehend my comment above, pop on over to the 'Covid-19 Are We Being Told The Truth' thread if you have 6 hours to spare...

Anyway, IMO it's fine to call it the British Final. Fingers crossed, that as a test event, it's not affected by this morning's news from the government. The BSPA have had to really jump the hurdles to get this on - let's hope all that hard work is not scuppered.

Because that is the policy that has enabled this event to take place. Just remember this is a test event, and will be closely monitored, and if it's a success you never know we might just get speedway back next season. The hoops that Ipswich are having to jump through for this is unbelievable so please for the sake of the sport please abide by the rules.

Dan Gilkes is a lad that seems to have his head screwed on right too, looks after his supporters and sponsors and willing to take advice