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Again, just a comparison. Premier Sports is as standard £11.99 per month which includes about 16 Polish matches a month aswell as 4 Swedish matches. 20 matches in total. Yet the 'British Championship' is more than that for a single meeting. What an absolute shambles that is.

Troy Batchelor has seemingly tweeted that he’s in the line up, having becoming a dual citizen.

Well, as long as Carlton's ok with it, who are we to judge? .

That is a very thoughtful comment...i would agree in part with that...equally i am not ignorant enough to go down the route of "bullrubbish"..Indeed knowing sadly someone who suffered dreadfully before passing, and equally someone who had covid but is thankfully recovering (albeit slowly)..it isn't something I would enjoy having. The mismanagement of Uk and USA governments borders on the criminal. During my mis-spent life and having survived a heart attack and later (the bullrubbish) of Sepsis, I ain't taking no chances Guvnor.

Will be streamed online, £12.95 seems a bit steep to me?

Should BWitcher get infected by COVID-19, then no, I would not expect him to need any treatment (certainly nothing out of the ordinary), and certainly not need a hospital bed. Sadly, with your medical history, James, you may be more at risk. Before you say anything, I do not consider that I am "at risk", but my wife (who has several underlying health conditions, including a compromised immune system), would be. The trouble is that you seem to believe the blanket panic that has continued to spread. As Mark said, increased testing has increased the number of confirmed infections, but for the vast majority - who are relatively healthy, and not over 80 - it is not a serious issue. I have lost a couple of friends to it, and know several others who have been infected, but again, for most victims, it is nothing more than .a minor complaint. Here in the US, which as you know, has been affected badly, it is still not the civilisation-threatening affliction that many make it out to be. So far, we've had 194,000 deaths from the virus. That sounds a lot, I agree, but (and I know this will sound harsh) a good number of those would have succumbed to other ailments, particularly underlying ones, this year. The fact is that over 600,000 Americans a year die from heart disease, and a further 600,000 die from cancer. Even though people may die "from" COVID-19, many will actually be dying from their underlying conditions. Unfortunately, we've been brainwashed into believing that, if you die while suffering from COVID-19, that means you died FROM it, which is totally untrue. For most of us, it is nothing to worry unduly about - and certainly not worth bringing the world to a standstill for...

I'm sure there will be much debate about the cost to stream the meeting, the quality of the line-up and will moan afterwards about the racing if they do pay. For me I'll happily pay to watch the meeting live for £20 but I wouldn't pay £12-95 to stream it. Half my enjoyment of speedway is all about seeing it live and in person and I'm fortunately one of the lucky ones.

So, before we get to a third page on Covid, what are our thoughts on the weekend's GPs?

Here goes.... av got a phone book down the back of me pants... Forget the Siemens site it won't happen... not as long as you have a hole in your posterior... you don't get a licence to create noise... when you apply for planning you tell people what you will be doing and they either put up with it or object... the council will consider whether the noise is acceptable or not and base it on the amount of objections they recieve... and may uphold the objections... it's complicated but again once you start the process there could be post objections then you run the risk of abatement orders that may be applied... Honestly forget Siemens... far to close to housing and difficult to suppress noise, smell and dirt... Rob Grant has been very open and honest as to what his options are and where he is at with various local authorities... he has always stated that he wants to run as a "training track"/"practice track" during the week to generate funds so the noise could be daily not just three hours on a Sunday... (Or Monday) What also needs to be noted is that it won't be a Stadium... you wouldn't call the Redcar or Scunthorpe venues Stadiums they are "Motor Parks" or "Raceways" not Stadiums like the NSS in Manchester... where ever the club ends up think Redcar and Scunthorpe... Not Brough Berwick Ashfield Sheffield NSS and the likes where there are fixed stands and a Stadium format... it won't be the new Brough Park to start with it will be the original New Rough Park... and possibly quite basic... however it will be a new home offering security and longevity for the club and the promotion has to start somewhere... he's called Grant not Abramovich... monies will be tight the first few years I would suggest... So where to... and the outskirts of the city are where we will end up without a doubt... and again Granty has been open with what his options currently are... on the outskirts of Newcastle a couple of sites have been mentioned and met with positivity from Newcastle Authority... these sites are located near Throckley and Seaton Burn... North Tyneside are looking at a couple of more sites with one on the A19 tunnel approach and one or two more out on the coast... although they are struggling with the site size requirement and a site in Gateshead towards Kibblesworth through a Farmer that Rob knows... again it needs to be remembered that the local authority may not own the land... it may be farmland or land owned by a third party but the whole process is a complicated one... this can't be stressed enough... You have to empathise with Rob Grant and his promotional team though surely in these wretched times with this poxy Covid coming along when it did... he bought the club and was late to the party but managed to pull a team together and then wham Covid kicked in... lock down.. and Granty and his team don't get to turn a wheel in anger for a whole season... then the Dogs through ARC start getting a bit bolshie after he has pumped money into the track... it has certainly been a tough start to his promotional career for sure.... If (when) we get to move and wherever it is I hope we draw in some new fans... I know it will be hard to move but we won't be the first side to find a new home and sure some folk will take the losing of Brough Park hard and as the last straw but if you want a viable club it could be the only option the promotion have and I'm sure these decisions won't be taken lightly but if you want to watch Speedway then a change could be imminent and the only answer... Good luck to the promotion and hopefully every one will see the issues with Brough and get behind what the promotion are having to do to ensure the future of the sport in the region... As long as we don't end up in Snuderland cos a couldn't bring me self to go there.... anywhere but Mackum land... Regards THJ

Difference being Premier Sports buy a ready made tv production off the shelf then just have Dave doing commentary so there production costs are peanuts. Compare that to the cost of setting up Foxhall for a one off event add to that hosting costs etc online and I’d suggest that at £13 the break even point for this will be fairly high and it’s very unlikely the BSPA will be making much if any profit at all A more realistic comparison would be the cost of other sporting events to stream such as Ice Hockey at £10-£15 a match, Football (£10-£20 a match for Scottish Premiership) are all in the same ballpark

I remember him doing that in the world cup a few years ago, when Pawlicki and Iversen crashed right in front of him. Amazing reactions.

Couldn’t agree more. He’s constantly bucking and rearing and just generally out of control. How good was Holder’s reactions to back out of that one? Could of been much worse if he wasn’t on the ball.

Holder did well there to lay it down on a sixpence.

Final table 1 Leszno M 14 pts 28 2 Gorzow M 14 pts 21 3 Wroclaw M 14 pts 20 4 Zielona Gora M 14 pts 20 5 Czestochowa M 14 pts 19 5 Lublin M 14 pts 19 7 Grudziadz M 14 pts 10 8 Rybnik M 14 pts 2

Milik is an absolute liability.

Yeah, they look like a totally different team from the one that put on the horror show performance against Czestochowa.

To be fair Rybnik are riding with much more determination tonight than they have for pretty much the whole season.

Can't get a quality burger and chips at home like being there though......

I don't recall last time all riders in same heat of Polish league racing were British .

They are but you were wanting a match to go to weren`t you ? and Leszno won`t be at home - so you can plan you won`t be going there !!

Of course it's the argument. Even if I CAUGHT Covid-19, I'd still have more chance of being stabbed than being hospitalised from it. You're acting as it its some kind of death sentence. Right now it's the least of your worries with flu/pneumonia involved in 10 x the deaths and hospitalisations.

It would seem as usual the Bspa are scoring an own goal with that pricing. Having said that,,, as usual,,, I don't suppose they really give a monkeys.

The E Winner league have just announced the TV matches for rounds 13 and 14 round 13 Saturday 26th September lodz v Bydgoszcz start time 1pm UK time N Sport Saturday 26th September Ostrow v Gniezno start time 3.30pm UK time N Sport Saturday 26th September Torun v Tarnow start time 6.15pm UK time N Sport Sunday 27th September Gdansk v Daugavpils start time 1pm N Sport round 14 Thursday 1st October Tarnow v Gdansk start time 5pm UK time N Sport Sunday 4th October Bydgoszcz v Ostrow start time 12.30pm UK time N Sport Monday 5th October Gniezno v Torun start time 6.15pm UK time N Sport the date and start time for Daugavpils v Lodz is TBA

Fair post, not you in particular.. but others are.

So is the sponsorship

Bydgoszcz are at home to Tarnow that weekend. Those with more fixture knowledge can confirm Saturday or Sunday. Be a bit silly if it was the Saturday meeting

Poznan v Rawicz is scheduled. Also it`s the Extraleague final 1st leg(won`t be Leszno) and 3rd/4th place 1st leg( won`t be Leszno) It`s also the final round of the E Winner league 1 so there will be 1 match on the Sunday starting 2 pm local- not chosen yet.

It was just a hunch...

It`s Marcelina !!!

Round 4 is tomorrow in all four groups and that will complete groups A,B and D. Group C has a round at Lublin tomorrow which is the 3rd of the 4 rounds. Daugavpils have chosen to hold their round in Lublin and i thought they might count tomorrow as a " double" round - however i have been told by my Polish contact that another round will take place in Lublin before the finals day which is on Thursday September 24th venue TBA. The final is being broadcast by Sabmar TV on the internet.

456 deaths in total in the whole of the Czech Republic since the beginning. And you're all falling for the utter BS of 'rampant'.. and 'big time increase'. The last time there were more than five in a day was May 22nd. The more tests, the more cases. People get colds you know.. and will increasingly do so as the weather cools.

If you would have travelled a fair distance then your fuel bill is saved ... whole family can watch it

Drew Kemp will be one I’d have thought. I know people will argue the merits of including Crump but seriously who cares. It would add a bit more interest to the meeting. Will also give us a rough idea of what standard he’s still at and what might have been this year at Ipswich. On the stream, yeah agree with others it’s steep. I’m still going to pay it though as I want to see the meeting.

Just seems a bit steep, I think it’s ridiculously expensive and won’t be bothering. Just cannot get it right can they, I dare say at a £5 they would have got pretty much most fans but at £13, we will see.

Shame a choice of seats wasn't given on purchase of tickets,,, as couldn't be any further away from my normal choice.

You WOULD say that, wouldn't you? Well, speedway was supposedly "rotten to the core", wasn't it?

For those of you wondering about the zones.

Let's hope they have the Mayor of Bydgosczs number

Its where my wife works caring for others and where she contracted Covid 19, fortunately she recovered after a few weeks. I also had another household member get it as well. I was either lucky or was asymptomatic. In other words, don't ask stupid questions!

You better find out quick..... one day you will need it.... and be thankful.

I’m sure the NHS staff will be delighted with your attitude.

Personally I can't wait to get to Foxhall and meet up with my speedway friends. If I get a virus I get it,, if u don't I don't,,, just like any other virus or illness.

Agreed. Michael could have been a Speedway Great and in the very top bracket with Mauger and Rickardson with one World Championship already at 20 . Therein could have been the problem being so young with to much to soon. He was both dazzling and brilliant.

I read somewhere, possibly here on the forum, that Lee blew Kenny Carter away in the Golden Helmet at Halifax when Carter was 'the boy' around the Shay....

Looking forward to reading Triggy's account of that night at Cradley. I was there as a wide eyed 7 year old, but standing on the second bend was obviously unaware of the gun incident. For the onlooking crowd the abiding memory of the night was Mike Gardner whacking Middleton on the head with his crash helmet following an incident near the end of the meeting, after which the nearest anyone in the crowd got to seeing Middleton was a blanket in the back of a car as it inched out of the stadium.

Finally a sensible voice on here.

Four main reasons I would think 1. Manchester is in varying degrees of lockdown week to week so planning an event there at the moment is very risky and has no guarantee it will happen. 2. Ipswich has around two thirds more capacity than the NSS so when percentage restrictions are applied you can still get a reasonable (and more importantly viable), crowd in.. 3. With Kings Lynn, Peterborough and Mildenhall all 'local' you have four lots of Speedway starved fanbases to pull from, which (with a good few from around other parts attending) hopefully will ensure all tickets available will be sold.. And 4. Ipswich might be 'in the middle of nowhere' but does traditionally at Easter get one of the largest crowds (if not THE largest single crowd), of the season at any track, so obviously have a strong underlying fanbase who show they will attend on one off occasions.. Put it all together and I would think the size of the venue, the amount of awareness of Speedway that exists in that geographical area, and the fairly low impact of Covid 19 to that part of the country, ticks a lot of boxes when it comes to planning and putting on an event that needs a crowd to be a financially viable...

Dont mind having wildcard selections but 5 is 2 to many IMO.