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Come on any speedway on the tv is better than no tv lol

Well well well Fame at last... looks like I have had a good posting (or is it pasting) being mentioned no less by name on the Newcastle track staff facebook forum page.... Stating that I knew all about the speedway allegedly losing Sunday racing.... Well the truth can always come out if anyone wants a PM... I did offer... but it would be best if the main protagonists (plural) remain anonymous... and there is no value in me going public... Now I was as pleased as anyone with the club announcement but ya talk about cracking a walnut with a sledgehammer.... well I say that but it was more like a Road Runner cartoon sketch with a one ton weight dropping from a great height onto a peanut... wow... The whole idea of getting the situation out there was to generate debate after all this is first and foremost a debating forum FFS... isn't it? I will stand corrected if I am wrong... So to see how strong people felt with regards to moving away from our historical and spiritual home and what other options were available the information was opened up to the masses on the forum ... the same masses who.usually scream "We want knowledge" "We need to know what is going on" then when the information is made public the whole world caves in... 1. If it had of happened the cry would have been why weren't we told anything... whaaaa... 2. No publicity is bad publicity... keep the club name out there at every opportunity... keep the debate moving... don't try the big brother routine to stifle the debate... just because the place is being talked about that doesn't have to mean it's a bad thing... 3. There was a comment about not getting volunteers to do various jobs... has anyone asked? By that I mean a formal approach (to anyone) not a general WIM on here... WIM "woe is me" I/we can't get anyone to do anything... here's a suggestion... get out of the cliques as that is what ultimately destroyed the previous promotions over the last 10 years... Baby-arsed grudge bearing chip on the shoulder in fighting suck holing attitudes don't wash with me I'm afraid... 4. I'm happy to help, anything from electrical assistance as an electrical engineer, first aider, turnstile attendant to selling programmes or raffle tickets, running a beer tent, or food stall, or track shop, Starting Marshall (only if ya off Phil) to shovelling shale or washing/brushing the air fence between races, pushing bikes off to waving a red flag on the centre green if we are ever short of one of them. I'm not proud. 5. Furthermore I am happy for the club to use my company suppliers for materials if that saves them money and I am happy to put money into the club in the form of sponsorship.... Ask FFS you can only be told no... to proud to ask or frightened of rejection? By the way my cash went in way back in February before Lock Down and I ain't been on here bitchin for it back unlike some others moaning about clarty season ticket money... however that may be reviewed... because the more the fat lad gets poked the more annoyed he gets... I want the place to thrive and I am happy to put my money where my mouth is and I am happy to support the promotion in anyway shape or form that I can and it won't be by bitching and back biting at what they are trying to achieve that's for sure... However what I will add... all you will get is the truth (unless I am taking the Mickey but you will know when that happens) at no time will I pee up your leg and try and tell you it's raining... So if any Facebook fannies or warriors want to assume what I am thinking or trying to second guess what I know or what I have been told... why not get in touch first and I will give it to you first hand.... after all you all know who I am... Regards John...

Sadly I think a great many around the globe will not get the chance to get their salaries reduced as they will lose their salary completely... Many companies who were already under pressure will take this opportunity to restructure, and change terms and conditions, whilst blaming Covid 19.. With some of those losing, or getting reduced income, being fans of the sport, which can only mean less revenue as 'recession' bites.. I think the most telling line is the one around how much riders pay out getting ready for the season, and it truly is a staggering amount given they get watched performing on their expensive equipment, in many places, by just a few hundred people every week.. It really is a vicious circle that needs to be broken as everyone, it appears, make nothing like the money they should (and deserve), for what they do. Unless, of course, Poland comes knocking and you become an elite rider, with the salary and individual sponsorship that reflects your position in the high profile sport that Speedway is over there.. Unfortunately, over here we do seem to have a continual race to the bottom, where everyone pays out fortunes, whilst clubs close as they can't make ends meet.. You have to feel for the riders, and the vast majority of fans do genuinely appreciate and admire what they do, but sadly, if the money isn't there to pay them they can't have it.. Just like many millions of others will unfortunately find out the same. .

I think it all boils down to the same result.. And that bottom line result is (unpalatable as it may be for some), Speedway (in the UK) cannot support the number of pro riders it currently has.. The 'alternative source of income' should actually be the Speedway racing for many.. Many, many riders over the past years have adopted that philosophy and ended their speedway careers, whilst not millionaires, with a fair few quid to show for their on track endeavours, and still have a 'proper job' to carry on their lives with.. It really should be only those who want to reach World Class level that should invest tens and tens of thousands in the level of machinery needed to assist them in their quest.. And that is a wholly individual, not team, quest it should be pointed out.. Therefore they should be prepared to 'self fund' this quest for super stardom, rather than expect clubs to help subsidise their individual aims and aspirations, through unaffordable (and sometimes business risking), salary levels. For me, only if you are in the Top 50 or so in the world you should be a pro.. Anyone Heat Leader level in the top division of the UK (so will invariably DU), should consider being at that level, as well as those at Heat Leader level in Denmark.... And anyone in the top five in Swedens and Polands top divisions, and probably Heat Leader level in Poland Div 2, should be pro level.. Apart from that, then 'semi pro' has to be the way forward surely for everyone else until they organically grow to the next level through performance... And if all you are doing (without sounding disrespectful) is riding domestic Speedway in your own country at 'mid level and lower' then you really shouldn't be spending tens of thousands of pounds on kit which will then require a commensurate level of income to finance not only that, but your life outside Speedway..

We move on to Sunday- don`t forget the 2 live E Winner div 1 matches on tomorrow( see separate thread) Sunday July 12th Czestochowa v Lublin programme start time 3pm 1st race 3.30pm N Sport and Premier Sport 2(3.30pm) Sunday July 12th Zielona Gora v Gorzow programme start time 5.45pm 1st race 6.15pm N Sport and Premier Sport 1 ( delayed ) 12.45am Monday 13th Racecard Czestochowa v lublin pages 4 and 5 https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:ed462ba8-6c7b-4753-8571-df974d41c6ce Racecard Zielona Gora v Gorzow page 21 https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:d9569422-c8fb-4121-93c4-93af9d77615b Links http://spedway.ucoz.lv/ http://www.drhtv.com.pl/drhtv-2.html https://daddylive.live/channels/stream-75.php

I agree. Track is too grippy.

He's winding you up

You got your wish

Lambert too knew where Sayfutdinov was in ht 1 and 15.Was that 2-1 to Lambert Really hoping to see some action here in the UK so i can watch the return to form of Lambert around the NA.

I think those promotors who have to pay rent for their track/stadium will not even come close to breaking even, so it'll be a massive gamble, and one I doubt many will be prepared to take.

Frankly I wish bosses would come to terms with No Speedway and concentrate on next year. Seems to me even if we started it would be nothing like we had anticipated due to probs with personel l

Oh well there ya go that was worth listening to eh... looks like my mates mate who works down the chippy was spot on with that rumour then eh... It's good to talk like eh... so to all those debators' out there keep on mass debating... You know it makes sense... Regards THJ

Did you spill any on her whilst drinking said whisky over her.

I wasn’t serious, I know a lot of riders who’ve spent (tens of) thousands getting ready for the season. Who’ve had to seek work in an already hard situation and are now being told by the online experts “well, you’ll just have to stop being greedy and take less money” I wonder if the same experts will be just as cool when their boss says they have to take a pay cut. ?

Thinking of the Jolly Rogers and Bob Roger -got me thinking of the achievement of Swindon 1957-a second division track which when the Leagues amalgamated finished top of the combined NL-even beating out Wimbledon. Anybody in forumland recall that team (gustix maybe)and seeing them ride that season. It was quite an accomplishment. I recognise that we are talking 63 years agobut I'm only 73 and would loved to have seen them as an 11 year old.!!!

I’m not knocking Dan,but he has had a nasty injury which obviously set him back ,but IMO opinion he has along way to go to get to Lamberts level ,age is certainly on his side ,but whether he has the full package to make it to the top, time will tell.I certainly wish him well.

See you Sunday.

That's the best meeting I 've seen berrie have for a long time

I agree. Very disappointing track.

If Artem Laguta was able to ride in every heat, do you guys think the result of the meeting would be different?

You've been listening.

The track is far too grippy. Passing impossible but weather is to blame.

If Artem wins from gate 4, he will be the king of Wroclaw.

Not really when I’m right I’ve won end of!

Agree totally that Tai needs to get his gating sorted, but it makes for good racing in the league.

Very grippy track. Not Wroclaws fault but might not be that much passing as they go so fast.

A fair chunk of Zloty's may have helped him sway hs decison, I would suggest

Good, the absolute best news possible. The sooner people realise Covid-19 is no longer a thing the better. It might push the government into restoring some freedom to our lives. None of you have an issue with walking round a supermarket in January, in weeks where 3,000 people are dying from respiratory diseases (before Covid was even here).. but now there's only around 1300 dying from respiratory diseases (INCLUDING covid-19) and it's still panic stations. To put it simply, it's not Covid-19 you should be worried about NOW. Week ending 26th June, 1167 deaths with flu/pneumonia 606 with Covid-19. Covid figures have continued to fall since then. So if you were never worried about flu/pneumonia, you shouldn't have any concerns whatsoever now. Things may change again come the winter, but the reality is, that is how things stand.

Starting at 8:30 UK time as said in an earlier post.

And I suspect your experience is fairly typical for many of the larger supermarkets (it certainly was for my wife and me during a recent visit to a branch of Morrisons). From what I've seen as a delivery driver, the small shops and their customers generally continue to observe the rules.

Another fine performance from Rybnik's one man band!

As long as we're 2 metres apart, i don't mind!

Pleased to see further developments of the Plymouth site which augurs well for the future. good luck in the future

I stopped reading when I got to the second "No Spectators". No Spectators = No Speedway. Looks like we have to wait for transition from Stage 3 to Stage 4, whenever that may be?

You're probably at more risk of being hit in the face with shale than getting Covid19, so perhaps those full face visors should be mandatory... 2 birds, 1 stone

He had been riding amateur meetings in Germany. He was well advanced when he arrived on the scene. Dan jumped on a speedway bike for the first time as a 16 year old and straight into the national league. It’s not about the literal age gap.

Hotel has kindly cancelled my booking without charge.

Take an umbrella or waterproofs!

If it's so important that we dont have a situation where spectators get close to each other, why is it ok to play football, and have players coming into close contact with each other?

Cradley fans please spread the word. Barry Bishop’s Virtual Skid project next airs on Thursday 16 July and features the Heathens going wheel to wheel against the Coventry Bees from the 90’s. Each Heat is sponsored (as are the team managers Garry Stead and Adam Roynon). The Speedway Riders Benevolent Fund will be the sponsorship recipients. Additional donations are being taken. Don’t forget the SRBF text line is now open for you to be able to donate £5 - its quick and easy and you will be supporting a great cause. Text SRBF to 70085 or SRBFNOINFO to 70085 if you do not want any marketing updates. Here is the legal bit.... Text SRBF to 70085 to donate £5 Texts cost £5 plus one standard rate message and you’ll be opting in to hear more about our work and fundraising via telephone and SMS. If you’d like to give £5 but do not wish to receive marketing communications, text SRBFNOINFO to 70085. If you haven’t tried Virtual Skid yet, search Speedway Portal and follow the links to one of the five meetings that have already been screened.

Nice article on the Extraleague website from a journalist`s experience of the current norm for attending matches- Google translation. Nobody predicted that for the next match in Wroclaw, with the audience, after the first final meeting, there would be 295 days to wait. After such a break, a visit to the Olympic Stadium was coveted and unique, a bit like coming home after a long journey. As is often the case after a long absence, but now mainly due to the specificity of the situation, we have faced major changes. We all know the circumstances we are currently facing. Going to the first match this season with the audience in the stands in Wroclaw, I felt a bit like "Alice on the other side of the mirror". In this case, it can be understood either as a TV screen or just (slightly) a different reality. At first glance, almost everything was supposed to be different than it used to be. From the process and method of granting accreditation, to their receipt, principles of media work and organization of competitions. Before the meeting, you had to familiarize yourself with the logistic information received from the club. Slight uncertainty mixed with excitement, comparable to that felt during the first matches in life. After arriving at the place, despite the almost hour to the start of the meeting, at the Olympic Stadium you could meet a large group of slag fans dressed mainly in yellow and red colors. However, instead of a quick visit to the machine park and "photorelation" to social media, you could at most take photos of those loyal fans heading towards the stadium gates open for them. Ticket offices have been turned into a badge collection point and media service. It was possible to collect the coveted accreditation there (with more than usual, crossed out zones accessible to the media / photo) and the entry band - they will become a souvenir and symbol of these specific times. Before entering the MEDIA and PHOTO zones, mandatory hand disinfection and you could confidently continue your journey. It was at the same time a good opportunity to explore new nooks of the Olympic Stadium, in a way getting to know it from a new, interesting side, as the transition to a separate zone was moved to a completely different place. Apart from the initial uncertainty as to the correctness of the chosen direction, by using the "end of language for the guide" principle, we managed to reach the desired goal in the form of the MEDIA sector. Wild animals also seemed somewhat surprised by the return of people to the stadium. The foxes wandering around the "U" sector became an unexpected guest. Frightened, he hid nearby, under one of the watering cans, later he was also seen on the safety belt. It is possible that the hosts have acquired a new mascot or fan. Although it has long been in "our sector" so much space and you could feel almost like a VIP, also due to distributed bottles of water and "spreads" of the match, but it was impossible to resist the impression that it is not the same. In our ambassador duo we have always tried to "ride on steam". One took strategic places, the other took care of drinks. Comfort in the form of a larger personal space does not compensate for the lack of support or the possibility of match analyzes with "colleagues". Together with the other representatives of the media, together, so that it was much easier to "endure" in the masks worn throughout the meeting. However, compared to competitors who must comply with even more restrictions in the machine park, this is no "sacrifice." As for the course of the meeting were well-known, unchanging points of the program, such as track test. The leaders of the hosts were the first to enter, who could greet their audience at least in this way. Captain Maciej Janowski and Tai Woffinden were warmly welcomed by everyone. Guests were also enthusiastically received by Piotr Protasiewicz and Antonio Lindbaeck. All four of them repaid for a beautiful fight on the track during the whole match. There was no presentation, but only in the old edition. A virtual screen was displayed on the big screen, with the announcement of Jacek Dreczka. The starting numbers and the individual hiding below them were shown, waving to us from the screen. BETARD Sparty Wrocław players. There was an ovation, like the old one. So that they hear that they are no longer alone, and the whole meeting will go with us - the fans. Then the guest team was presented in a similar way. Thus, despite arriving early at the stadium, the hour of waiting passed extremely quickly and pleasantly. Looking around you could see the faces of both older and very young fans with masks on, maintaining social distance, without unnecessary equipment. In this picture, with the passing of subsequent races, there was more and more no sight of the expression of joy or light occupation on the faces. Also, one could wait in vain for the smell of burnt oil to permeate. However, being able to experience emotions again live, closer to others, is an incomparably greater experience than watching even the best broadcast on TV. Among the Spartan fans, visitors here and there are not as usual and not in such a number of guests in the grandstand (according to the rules excluded from availability), but among the locals. All as one big family, without unnecessary resentment and dissatisfaction. Everyone knew, thanks to the announcer, systematically reminiscent of the rules, that by obeying them somewhat "we are fighting" for more and more of us to be able to sit in the stands in the near future. The stadium seems to be filled to the maximum, of course in the prescribed number of 25%. For which he praised the Wrocław audience, during one of the breaks co-commenting on this meeting on nSport + Krzysztof Cegielski. You can be impressed with Wroclaw enthusiasm. Despite the inconvenience and fewer numbers, doping continued. As strong and honest as the one we remembered from the previous season. A bit like an orchestra on the Titanic from the song Lady Pank. Although in not so dramatic circumstances. It was famous: "the other side responds", "W! T! S! " full of joy, after 5: 1, "Ole! Ole! We will not give up! ", And even trying to organize the Mexican wave. Currently, the situation has not allowed for organizing competitions for the public or buying gadgets or competition programs at the stands. It all reminded us from time to time that it was different. However, as a matter of fact, these are just additions to the main attraction, which is racing itself at every speedway match, and this meeting was not lacking in it. Thus, the decisive 15th race was watched, according to tradition, standing and hotly cheering the best players of the match. I am sure that everyone who decided to be on that day, regardless of their role at this meeting, did not regret their decision. Although there was no crowning victory in the form of a local team, but thirsty for experience, everyone enjoyed the match and it was special. After such an even and awaited match, one would like to run to the machine park. Some ask about the reasons for the weaker disposition or impressions after the debut, others congratulate the great attitude. For now, however, you need to be sent by the club and the comments of speedway riders from television. However, it is worth appreciating that they are, because if we had to face a similar situation several years earlier, there probably would not be such opportunities. This is a new situation for both supporters, organizers and the media. With each subsequent match it will be easier and "normal". We have to get used to all the news for the moment. When deciding to participate in the match, everyone knew the rules. What is the most optimistic, however, is that even a sanitary regime will not destroy the unique atmosphere. Whatever it would be, it certainly was different than usual, but is it worse? I leave it for each individual to assess. Personally, I didn't get that impression. What was possible, made available and allowed to the participants of the match. Despite initial concerns about possible "strangeness", a kind of artificiality forced by various regulations, as a result, all this became of little importance. It was forgotten, thanks to the attitude of the supporters in the stands as well as the competitors on the track. For all of them, a big round of applause! Based on the assumption that in every situation it is worth finding positive, I can see many of them. Paradoxically, it allows some to appreciate even more the opportunity to participate in competitions and pursue their passions. Pandemic forces us to adapt to certain guidelines, but it will pass sometime and it will be beautiful, it will happen! At this time it remains to draw from every moment as much as possible. It often happens that in order for it to be better it must first be (slightly) worse. Although in my opinion, in this case, just different. Despite this, paraphrasing Janusz Kołodziej is getting better, "but we are asking for more" or we are waiting for more. Alicja Labrenc

I thought the same. It’s been a number of years since I watched a meeting from there but tonight’s shows it hasn’t lost any of its magic. What a track

Great to learn the OTA will hear bikes again in a week's time! Even if we can't be there, there'll be hopefully be a few phone-films of the riders who turn out in action......

They would never be able to afford that, our council tax goes on much more important things than professional sport, I can hardly believe Poland's councils can justify chucking money at such a rich sport in their country!!!

Yes I thought that it's a very good concept and both Spencer Timmor & Lee Kilby really got into the swing of the thing. I hope that a return leg can be arranged...I'd look forward to it. Well done to everyone involved!

ITV showed every major event for years when England were having success and I dont think it was coincidence that this was a boom time for the sport. Virtually every fortnight there was a meeting beamed into literally millions of homes. Riders were household names, standing alongside the most famous sportsmen of the day... As a kid growing up in the 70"s, weekly magazines like 'Tiger' and their annuals, had full pages dedicated to the likes of Peter Collins, with posters and interviews.. When PC won the World Title in 76, the Sunday Mirror (for one) ran the story on their back page sharing the lead headlines with the football.. In fact, as an 8 year old kid, I remember being in Rhyl on a day out the day later, where outside one of the newsagents was one of those 'A frame' boards advertising certain papers and "PC lands World Title" was the message on it..(Things you remember as a kid).. But that very advertising board showed (just by being there), the awareness level of the sport in the nation at that time, and would have been replicated all over the country in front of newsagents premises that morning as it was the lead corporate advertising from that newspaper.. However, when any domestic team won their league, hardly any coverage was given to it nationally, and I can guarantee that many of those who attended domestic speedway in those days did so because of the national team's success, and subsequent major coverage in both written and visual media. In fact, I know we had the race fixing scandal which would have had some impact but, for me, the stranglehold of the Danes and the Yanks in the 80's did the most damage to the sport in the UK, as no longer was there a 'success story' to be shown on TV or written about in the Newspapers, hence their coverage reduced massively.. And when World Of Sport went, ITV obviously didnt see any mileage in keeping showing Speedway as a 'stand alone' sport nationally like they did with others.. As I said before, the media love a national success story, (its good for viewing and readership numbers), and both rugby and cricket realised this and radically changed their focus to ensuring their national teams became successful. Because they realised that it didnt matter how many times the likes of Leicester or Saracens won their rugby titles, or Middelsex or Essex were County Champs in cricket, it would only deliver 'local coverage' in a major way, and that it was only by having success globally as a national team that their domestic leagues would benefit from that 'feel good' factor.. This blueprint has subsequently been attempted to be followed by Basketball and Ice Hockey who have both tried to increase the number of 'genuine not flag of convenience' UK participants to try and improve their national teams standing, in the hope more coverage and money comes their way, which can then filter down into the domestic game.. Speedway wont become successful again whilst promotions all do their own separate things in splendid isolation, all trying to out do each other in trying to win competitions hardly anyone cares about.. However. Win the SWC three years on the bounce, and have three or four riders in the top 10 in the World for 10 years or so, and I can guarantee domestic Speedway would benefit..

Almost as good as the real thing, some great racing and legends. The return leg should be a cracker. Thanks to everyone involved in putting this together. For those who have not watched it give it a try. You become engrossed and feel part of it. Looking forward to the next meeting. This could be a good winter filler as well.

Great stuff!

Not as much as I thought I might. Probably only go 5-6 times a season nowadays anyway and find it harder and harder to get that ‘buzz’ each year to want to go. Lucky enough to have in laws in Manchester so go to the NSS when I can but in terms of going to Lynn it all feels a bit flat nowadays which is a great shame. Many reasons for this and I can’t ever see it being much different to be honest. I hope for people like Trees that I’m wrong though.

I am a UD Almería season ticket holder and we still have 6 home games to be played! Will these games be played? If not will I get a refund? Who cares? People are dying, people are very ill......there are far too many serious matters to address, rather than speculating about refunds!