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Warriors complete with Tom Woolley. A stronger team this year! Morley is a stand out rider in the league and can hold his own anywhere. Campos & Woolley are a dependable middle order and there’s average improvement definitely in Campos. Woolley, I think, will improve slightly with a stable home base and he’s tasted second tier racing now. Hopefully Coles fares a bit better than his last Smallbrook spell but he’s improved as a rider since and also has second tier experience now. Those 3 aren’t big names as 2nd & 3rd heat leaders, unlike BV, but there’s strength in depth and none on a downward trend. But I believe the real strength is at the bottom. Wirtzfeld & King have both had a season now and impressed at times last year and should again add 1-2pts to their averages. Leek is a new recruit but was having a great season last year until injury and should be one of the best 3.00 riders and could add 2pts himself. Any bad spell by any of the 3 will drop them to reserve to reignite their season with no worries over who steps up to number 2. More than happy. I can see a play-off campaign coming, a close call between the Warriors & Mildenhall for the NT, a decent KOC effort, a strong NL Fours run and not forgetting hosting the NL Pairs!

As I say, It doesn't really matter, but interesting sometimes to know some of the inner workings of how clubs operate.. And also may help fans understand some of the various costs they have to asborb.. Which may go some way also in lowering their expectations of what their team can deliver and provide more understanding of what promoters go through.. But, quite rightly, if they want to keep certain things amongst themselves then no drama... It is only a very tiny minority sport after all so won't impact too many what the promoters do or don't..

I always find comments like this particularly stupid. Of course the paying customer in a sport has a right to know the rules by which the team he supports are competing. And indeed the Speedway regulations are in the public domain, as are all the averages, and the competition rules. It was even a fair question to ask what the mechanism for loan fees was. If teams could negotiate their own loan fee levels it could lead to an unfair competitive advantage. And this question was answered. There was a set loan fee scale which makes things fair. But to demand the intimate costings of a private limited company is just ridiculous. No business operates like that. When you bought your Christmas turkey at Tesco, they will have told you the price they wanted for it. They'd have told you it's weight and any information you needed to know to be able to gauge what you were getting for your money. But you really expect Tesco to tell you how much they paid for the turkey, or how much their rent and utilities bills are? That's just ridiculous.

For Newcastle I'd go with this, Kenni Larsen 9.57 Robert Lambert 9.32 Steve Worrall 9.13 Mark Lemon 9.09 Stuart Robson 8.96 Danny King 8.84 Rene Bach 8.81 Total 63.72

Might be FFS Banditos after some away matches

Go here to see the programme from that 1931 World Final and my comments. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156440849867397&set=gm.526579451263742&type=3&theater&ifg=1

A used Cortina mk III, a christmas hamper and 1000 embassy coupons.

Well Kent have played second fiddle to eagles for the past 5 years lol

Oh no you haven't, not unless you've known for more than 9 years. The new decade starts exactly one year from today (no year nought!).

I beg to differ

But If the piper continues to keep playing the wrong tune all the rats eventually stop following

Happy New Year.

Yeah, Happy New Year to all in speedway. Hope every track that begins the season finishes it ok and is at the tapes in 2021 and maybe some new tracks too. You never know....

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Reading all the threads on here about certain clubs having riders signed as an asset and loaning them out to other clubs .So what I would like to know is 1- is there a limit on how many loan riders can be in a sides 1-7 2 - who gets the loan fee is it the side the rider signs for in there own country And thirdly what type of money do these season loans cost I assume it's based on the riders average ,as some sides have no rider assets and others have a huge list . Thanks in advance

Funny that. I typed tokens into the satnav on my phone and the predictive text sent me to Vojens

Doesn't matter what average still treble winners !!!

here https://www.bikermetric.com/vintage-bike-of-the-day-1934-crocker-speedway/

I have this 1934 advert for the Crocker dirt track bike, and on the four corners are small pictures of race events. Bottom left reads Mexico City 1933. The others are Los Angeles 1931 (top left), San Diego 1932 (top right), and Oakland 1933 (bottom right)

Dead easy comets 2018 treble winners

the Californians went there and ran several meetings in Mexico City ca.1933/34 but it was a one-off tour and as far as I know rhe sport did not catch on in Mexico.

I never went to Norwich. It closed before I managed to get there! I left school in 1965 and the year before I applied to go to Keswick Hall College of Education, near Norwich, for the simple reason that I would be able to go to Norwich speedway, but sadly Norwich closed at the end of 1964, so although I went to Keswick Hall and had three jolly good years in Norwich - A Fine City - I never did get to see speedway there!

Not at all, seem to remember someone coming on here with the calculation a while back.. If it isn't correct not an issue.. Not that important in the grand scheme of things.. Maybe those who do know should just inform the fans? Does sometimes seem to have its own omertà Speedway... But then again, being 'in the know' you probably know that... NB I also once got told it was £1000 a point per average but that did seem a little too much for me as paying out £5k a year for a five point man seemed ludicrous given how little money most teams have, and how many use many loan signings in their team.. Still, a bit of conjecture passes the winter months...

Still guessing Mike.

That would give too much negotiating power to the Clubs with a large asset base The scale was a simple ‘£ per point’ calculator

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Well I learned something, thank you. I guess I assumed the rate was negotiated between the two clubs involved not predetermined by this document. If clubs stick to these rates and are not coming to clandestine agreements, I can't see why the document is confidential.

I won’t quote figures - the loan fee scale is a confidential BSPA document and I still retain some respect for the organisation. In any event as I wasn’t involved last year I am not privy to the current rates so any figures I quoted may not be accurate - the scale had been unchanged for a number of years during my Promoting days and I knew it off by heart but I believe there was a change in 2019.

That’s good news he certainly needed to. Good Luck for the Season !

Ive known since the last decade.....

1 - No 2 - The loan fee is paid to the British Club that holds the rider’s registration, it is not connected to their nationality. 3 - Loan fees are indeed based on the rider’s average

Thanks for the intel. There are many factors where a track can be placed, but you do have to wonder why anyone would build a track there!

I am sure that Dan Bewley, like many other riders, is always aiming to be the best he can be. I think the point being made is that it will be a big step for him to become a number 1 next year. Not impossible, considering the steps he has already made and the courage and determination he showed in coming back so quickly from serious injury but realistically, more likely to take him at least 2 more years.

If that's the case you could end up starting the season more than 2 points under the limit.

Don't believe a word of it! Books about Clacton-on-Sea must be a guaranteed gold-mine!

And that's one of the key challenges the sport faces.. ie Does the competitions standing itself, and the riders on show, encourage fans to go? Or.. Is it the quality and closeness of racing, regardless of who is doing it, that gets them there? The NSS has terrific racing pretty much every week, with the majority of races having at least one pass through the field and the vast majority of races having the final positions still in doubt to the last bend.. And that can be said for the Colts as well as the Aces.. However, one is £10 in total for me and my 16 year old lad, and the other is £26.. £16 difference to actually see very little difference in racing quality from what I have seen over the past few years.. Therefore, I attend the Colts much, much more as I can get my 'Speedway fix' much cheaper, and as I have zero belief that winning a Team Speedway title in the UK has any credibility, then it more than ticks the boxes I want from the sport.. However, the Aces get probably double the crowds of the Colts which suggests the riders on view are a greater pull for many.. For me, the sport, in the UK, has to decide if it's actually a truly bona fide sport, with winning titles having some real kudos through having credible rules and teams.. Or.. It becomes sports entertainment, whereby the racing itself is the main draw... The fans seem to want both which, in fairness to the Promoters and their various circuits, given the wide ranging challenges they face, probably isn't anywhere near attainable....

Good advice we need more posts on the Poole thread!

The tide must have been out for longer than usual!

Will be going to this - second time I've been, first was 1994. Few days break for us & staying in Haderslev. Taking a brolly!

Yeah but what club owner chis Louis know???? He ain't no Chris Harris

I prefer the following definition of a journeyman: “a workman or sports player who is good but not outstanding”

It's called making up the numbers in a generally rudderless ship while living in a social media world where they have to talk up everything, often despite the reality of the situation that all but the happy clappers see. I never watch the interviews as I prefer my own opinion based on watching the action or reading club and fan reports.

In my opinion it has been shown time and again that one season proves nothing. Riders can take one season or five seasons to make the grade and move up the leagues.

If such an idea was ever put into action, it might encourage a few promoters to put a bit more shale on their circuits. Maybe to redesign their circuits, even in a small way, to create a few more racing lines and allow heat leaders on a handicap a fighting chance of overtaking those going off the gate.

T.Kurtz & D.Hume to finish the side off......?

And those in Norfolk stop at 6 once they've used up the fingers on their left hand

Championship team, premiership prices.

Perhaps the best solution is pay a set fee per position in the race so here is an incentive to push harder for the higher finishing positions? Or additionally compensate for he handicap so riders off 20m get an extra tenner, 10m get a fiver and off the line go from scratch?

So someone in a dying sport gets an award and you have a sap like Richard Weston making stupid comments . This is everything that is wrong with speedway and more importantly, its fans. Well done Dave!

Lets get a few facts straight... Birmingham is run by a Labour council, whose decision it was to demolish the flyover in Perry Barr. The driving force were Councillors from wards far away from Perry Barr, who paid no regard to the Liberal Councillors of Perry Barr or to the people of Perry Barr, nor to the objections of Walsall or Sandwell Councils. Such is democracy in a Socialist controlled City. Andy Street is a Tory Mayor of the WEST MIDLANDS, i.e. NOT Birmingham, He has no jurisdiction over Birmingham as was shown by the fact that his opposition to the demolition of the flyover counted for nothing. Labour policy is one of "the motorist is the enemy" and people need to be coerced into using more public transport in order to save the world, or at least to improve the air quality in the inner city where most Labour voters live. As has been said, it's going to be 25 months of hell in Perry Barr, the price that has to be paid for a better future.