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There seems to be a vast gulf between NL and CL, but only a dribble of p!ss between the top 2 leagues

With some of the clients on this thread don’t bet on it

I have to admit that there appears to be more dirt thrown around on here than found on most tracks!

what a laugh you have no chance

Stewart wild? You obviously haven't seen much of him.

Championship should take priority on good Friday as it’s outside of the chosen race nights for the Premiership.

I appreciated hearing your views and fully accept why Poole & Newcastle were not included, I'm expecting you to update your list when each is known. The flak you are getting appears to be more due to part of your name as opposed to your comments

Don’t understand why an ex World champion has so many problems getting visa?. Has he been in trouble with the police?

I could, especially riding for Ipswich. Holder has been a major beneficiary of Guy Nicholls’ sponsorship over the years, so I’d bet he’d give it more for “his” club (Ipswich) than he probably would for anyone else.

Personally feel Connor is better than Paco... Maybe Simon is better, but certainly not at Brough... I do agree... Sam Jensen is a hell of a reserve, and I did sort of forget about him being a reserve... But I think Connor would give him a run for his money for sure... Think James Wright (Although a little unknown) is definitely the best second reserve in the league... We have the best pairing for sure Followed closely by Glasgow... Think Claus will do a solid job... But he's not the MASSIVE number 1 the likes of Poole and Glasgow have... Still look forward to seeing at least 3 (Hopefully more) new faces in Diamonds kevlars... Predictions for the 20th? Can't wait!!

Next rider to be announced tomorrow morning - my money is on Erik. That will be 3 riders announced in 9 days - surely there’ll be nothing left to moan about?!

Swindon will finish meetings off well though in heats 12 13 14 and 15

I think you are jumping to conclusions! Poole will find the loopholes in the rule book but that is open to every team in the league. As one top stock car driver has on the back of his car "Second place is first loser!" I would just remind you what a lot of people said about Ipswich this time last year and about Workington around twelve months earlier. Newcastle may not have the best team on paper but races are won on the dirt not on paper! EDIT:- I must remember in future to quote what I am answering so that when the original comment is edited it does not make my comment meaningless! Looks like the person who started the thread can't stand by his comments so I won't bother making any further comments on what he says.

You might very well be right Norbold, especially as I think Jack Biggs had been dominant in the qualifying rounds and topped the list of qualifiers . However there is another version that I am sure I got from Classic Speedway . That version was that as Biggs started to get troubled by an old back injury and started to get an attack of nerves as he got closer to the possible tile. That could possibly explain why he came last in his last two rides, especially getting passed by Young and Waterman in the run off . However who of us really knows what was going on in Jack Biggs mind at the time ? It’s a funny old sport. Jack Young was only about 10th highest qualifier in the qualifying rounds, but had a good night, got second bite of the cherry in the run off grabbed his chance with both hands, and as a result got into the history books as a great rider and the first to win back to back World Finals whereas the history books view Biggs as something as an also ran . Time to recognise both as great riders. I was gutted when Jack Biggs lost his life in such a freak accident. A real solid servant of Speedway , as by all accounts a really nice guy behind the scenes, always with time for the fans, as was Jack Young.

Thanks, but a don't do the Facebook thing.

This is what people don’t get about Lynn signing Proctor. Don’t get me wrong he could be a poor signing but just because he had a bad 2019 doesn’t mean he won’t be a good reserve this coming season.

Five laps a heat clockwise and a one-off final heat for the title after 16 GP’s around the globe with one on each Ekstraliga track in Poland.

Says the person who reckons he only keeps to the International section these days cos he has no time for British speedway 'because they treated him so poorly'!? Boo hoo.

Buster, robin and dale have no clue on how to put decent team together! All bloody useless

Jenkins is five years younger and has been involved in league racing since 2016, Phillips started in 2012. Jenkins has more potential IMO.

Yes the good old days when every heat was a classic and Stars trophy cabinet needed extending every year.

Absolutely correct. The heat leaders, are top notch, but I fancy Jordan Stewart, to go to a whole new level, this season. Kasper is capable, of beating a lot of heat leaders, (especially around the MPA). The reserves are both racers and if they give, a decent account of themselves, that side will go a long way.

Only surprise is Jordan Jenkins - not one of the 2 pointers mentioned and I know very little about him. Love the top 5 - if Kasper and Jordan S push on as they could then this is a very good Bears team.. Good team, Good promotion, Good track. Good time for Speedway on Teesside.

We where the only ones that would have him after the silly team building averages came out. Ford dropped his main man like a stone.

DRAT and double drat . ...

Certainly not a poor signing. Always worth a punt on those numbers.

Think the point is 7.16 isn’t a figure you’d call expensive for a rider of his calibre. Whether you think he’d increase it or not is up for debate and I personally think he’d push that up towards the 8 mark, but you certainly wouldn’t call him a poor signing on such a figure.

Let's not forget Chris had some horrendous injuries as well as trying to move on from his best mate Darcy's career ending accident. There was also a lot of personal off track stuff that affected him deeply and still affects whether he gets a visa or not. If he signs at Ippo or anywhere else he'll be an 8 point rider for sure

Depends who you believe. PA said the reason behind the points limit was because they were unsure if Nicol would be a 4 or 6 (not sure what the uncertainty has been around the average as I’ve seen others suggest it would be reassessed to 5/ use his CL converted average/ be a 4/ and now possibly a 6). Im not convinced the team was built around getting a number one either. Although the evidence on the spare points would certainly point to that.

I have asked for you on Facebook and have been told they will come on here to explain (they may have PM'd you?) UPDATE: They have replied but it needs to be approved by the Mods.

I'd like to see Ben Morley get a Champ spot, on a 3.71 ave could be a decent reserve!

What about Newcastle?

One hell of a chip you are carrying to bring up the 70s !!!! How many times have you given up on this place ? More comebacks than Sinatra

What little dirt there is these days.

A friend of mine - who had been to the first meeting at High Beech in 1928, so he knew a bit about speedway! - told me that Jack Biggs was always very nervous. He remembered seeing him in the pits at various meetings and he was just a bag of nerves. He felt he would have won many more trophies and individual events if he hadn't been so nervous. His view of the 1951 final, which he was at, was that nerves once again got the better of Jack, both in his final race and in the run-off and that's why he lost.

Tungate Bech Harris Mpt Hans BWD Nicholls

Canny team. Another Jordy! Merry Christmas

Nah, one will be in Argentina. He won’t let that dream drop

So you think riders on the way down have no place in a PL winning side? Riders like Eriksen, Zorro, Skornicki, Watt, Stead, Peter Karlsson and Harris, all picked up on false averages due to previous poor seasons and yet being instrumental in winning a title. Hans Andersen or Scott Nicholls would have been miles better for Wolves’ title aspirations for 2020.

Ah, makes sense! Sorry,, my German is not so good, although I should have noticed the date and venue. I have removed the duplicate entry, and I have also listed Deon Prinsloo. Thanks for your help! Steve

Really pleased with the team - delighted to see the top 5 back. Thought we might have to break it up. 3 top heat leaders, with Stewart hopefully pushing them this season. On paper not the strongest at reserve - but plenty of potential there. If one of the reserve catches fire it could be one of the teams to beat. Very happy - well done promotion.

Best top 5 ? I would say very good but don't forget about Leicester & remember Poole are yet to complete & kent looking good and also us up the A19 arn't yet done either.. but enjoy the rest of your party night & I'm over the moon for joe lawlor as he loves redcar

Most of the Poole fans are still using the Premiership thread so we are doing them a favour by keeping this one going!

Oh dear, have we hijacked a Poole thread? Oh deary me. Keep up the good work....

A similar sort of story was told by Split Waterman about the 1951 World Final. After 4 rides each, Jack Biggs was unbeaten, with one race to go. Split Waterman was out against Biggs , and another rider in the race - I forget who - came up to Split and said “Has Jack asked you to keep out of his way ? “ Split said he hadn’t so they both went out and beat Biggs who came last, this finishing on 12 points which gave Split and Jack Young the chance of a run off against Biggs. The rest is history. In the run off Biggs made the gate but nerves got to him and he was passed first by Jack Young then Waterman. Split Waterman didn’t say whether money would need to change hands for the others to “keep out of the way “ but it is unlikely to be a gentleman’s agreement !

Must be thinking of someone else I couldn't give a toss about the Workington accounts back then and care not a jot now.

When are the fixtures released? Can’t wait to hopefully see a Poole v Eastbourne home and away on good Friday!!

Take a car full of the other key board warriors and it'll be even cheaper. Ha ha ha ha

Spot on Steve. Same old story. People writing us off already. Give Granty a chance. We were always playing catch up due to the delay in declaring to run. I'm sure Rob has put together a decent enough team with who was available and wanted to ride at Newcastle. If it doesn't happen this coming season I'm sure we'll build towards the following season. If so called fans don't want to turn up let them watch through their keyboards. Get behind the new regime. Honestly people amaze me. Call yourself speedway SUPPORTERS!!!!!

A very good scrambler (as it was in those days). Used to watch him when scrambling was a feature on Saturday afternoon TV. Dave Bickers, Jeff Smith, then they brought Torsten Holman and Rolf Tiblin (names if I remember right). Great stuff. Another good in bites the dust.