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13 hours since the last post this thread is drying up a little time to start a new thread under another name for the same old sad ex speedway fans to go over and over the same old reasons why British speedway is crap these days.If you got fed up with speedway.then after all this time you must be getting sick of posting the same old crap over and over. Every new thread is like reading the last one for your own sake's please find something you enjoy doing and move on and leave a speedway forum to those who still have an interest in the sport.

I, for one, are delighted that Sheffield have moved up a league and will look forward to popping over to Sheffield next year supporting the Aces. It will certainly bring back memories of the what I call golden speedway yesteryears, before the Fords and Russells etc etc ruined this great sport.

will Dishington still get a runners up medal

You're right, but its never stopped other tracks in need of improvement staging international meetings. Apart from the NSS, Kent is the best stadium we have. With the loss of Stoke & Plymouth and the possible loss of Cradley, Leicester & Belle Vue it maybe that next season's points limit will be extremely low (32 or even 30) to entice other clubs to enter NL teams. With Sheffield reverting to Thursday, Buxton could come back. My only hope is if Isle of Wight decide to fold given the circumstances a role is found for Barry Bishop & Martin Widman. The innovation, foresight and enthusiasm they have put into the Warriors over the last few seasons is something the sport simply can't afford to lose.

I'm sure that the infamous letter just emphasised that they the owners were not going through to armadale. It did not say on no account should tigers fans go through. And even if it did we've still gone through in our hundreds despite it being a trick track. Can't help thinking some monarchs fans are just trying to use any excuse to justify there absence. Why not just be honest and say we don't want to see our team get gubbed. I obviously exclude from this the decent Edinburgh fans who'll support there team through thick and thin as we did in our poor years

he couldn`t get a Newcastle one Willie Dishington was wearing it

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Would that mean Danny and Ulrich the first two signings Dave?

Besides, why is it okay for you to insult others, but you don't like it when others respond in a similar vein? Before you act all innocent, I know of two specific examples off the top of my head. 1) You think I am basically a criminal because I watch the GP's via the LEGAL stream provided by the organisers just for people like me who don't live in the UK. 2) You had the audacity to call speedway fans who still enjoy watching the sport "insane". Really? You are the only "sane" one on here because you don't like speedway, and refuse to support it? You really think spending your time on a forum for a sport you don't like, trying to persuade others not to like it, and questioning their judgement when they refuse to agree with you, is the definition of "sanity"?

Must be Dishington, he's already working for the team.

Unfair. Barker rode really hard. Was harshly excluded (Phillips admitted he locked up) and fell giving it maximum effort.

well done to the bears.Good effort from Sarjeant him signed for next year.Not so “super”stevie lost it for Newcastle.even after the help from the ref..

Get in! UTB!!!

I heard yesterday a rumour or talk whatever you want to describe it as, that Rye House will be back in 2020 racing in the NL under the combination of Pete Sampson and Martin Hagon, be great to have some speedway in the Herts/Essex area again, Arena Essex will never return, that's for sure.

Redcar deserve this . hope they do it .... U.T.Beers !

1 Auty 2 Ayers 3 Tero 4 Jorgensen 5. Allen 6. Lambert 7 Palin

They need to stay in the same league as Newcastle Edinburgh and Glasgow as they are their local rivals with the biggest travelling supporters especially Glasgow.

Bonkers. That’s what I’m hearing.

I used to attend Ashfield fairly regualry (about once a month) but since the change of race nights its been a little harder to manage a trip through. Sun afternoons suited whereas midweek and Fri night a no go. Shamed to say was only there once this year, although rain did ruin a couple plans. If (and a big if) you go up would be good to see new teams but midweek would affect crowd levels from away fans. I know people who still hold a grudge over the famous average fixing night all those years ago. It's amazes me people still use that as an excuse to not support their team against our closest rivals.

Was this written last year and just reproduced? Or maybe the year before? Or maybe any given year over far too many years..? Cricket is another sport that relies on the weather conditions being favourable to run, therefore I am amazed they don't run all their finals in October like Speedway in the UK does.. Surely those in the ECB are missing a trick? It is truly amazing that every year the same nonsense pervades yet those who run the sport obviously see absolutely nothing wrong with it.... Maybe seeing all those growing empty spaces on the terraces will one day start to finally give them a clue. .?

That's only cause we're pumping them on a regular basis

If there is any truth in this, then it clearly shows the unprofessionalism of CVS. The individual clubs should make the announcements when they feel it's appropriate. If he has leaked confidential information it shows a complete disregard to his fellow promoters.

been t car boot this morning and bought a load of books off a guy . nice chap. all speedway stuff . some good reads as i will soon find out when i get into them . ... .three old 1977 ish speedway stars and a more recent one with the stoneymasterclasser in . all in good condition and looking forward t reading em . . wot u doin ower crimbo ? roll on workington speedway in 2021 ?

I hope George is as he is a great bloke and Diamonds through and through

He tried so hard for a winners medal didn't he ?

If anyone can shed an light on the change of ownership, I'm all ears. I hope we will retain the best team manager in British speedway. IGWT.

Does it matter? Certainly doesn't matter to you, does it?

Sum up the season in one word. Danny Phillips = rubbish Promotion = rubbish Presentation (Roy Clarke) rubbish Team =Abysmal I would say rubbish but you can polish a turd

Well done Bears, coming home with the silverware. A fully deserved reward for the best season for years. A close run thing in the end, credit to the Diamonds, but, oh, that referee. Quite simply the most abject excuse for an official I, and, I suspect many others, saw tonight. Absolutely awful decision making, which even the Diamonds fans were questioning. Willie, find another job...that doesn't involve any thinking.

Well done Redcar.The best team won over the 2 legs but must of got a fright when the scores where tied overall.

Not strictly true. He must have "some" interest, as he keeps it on in the background...

Looks like we have new owners next year, and George hoping he's still involved. I wonder who that is ?

As long as it's a good meeting with both teams giving it a go as I think the points we have to pull back is just a tad bit much but you never know.. but it's going to be bitter cold tho so a hope the meeting runs nice & smooth

You mean, Poole asset, young Brit on the up. Obvious, isn’t it? Correct. It won’t be Poole, they’d rather sign a 34 year old Continental on a false average.

Wright and Riss are the key signings for next season for me ,

It's called insanity.

Have always found sarj very trying, but am going to have a ride over tonight despite being at work at 5.45 mon morn.

Seriously, I don't know what people expect Newcastle to do. Nobody on here really knows if Lasse is ill or not. He will certainly have to provide a sick note for us to be granted a facility. The weather hasn't done us any favours over the last few weeks. Getting a guest, especially on Lasse's poor average, to score what he would potentially score at this late stage of the season was never going to be easy. Most riders have packed up for the year with the foreigners, by and large, already moved out of the country. Sarj scored 6+1 when he was here with Glasgow, and did feature in a glasgow 5-1 beating Danny and Ulrich. I, for one, am prepared to give the lad a chance. He's on our side so will be getting some advice from our regular lads, which he wouldn't get riding for the opposition.

That thought actually went through my mind ruffdiamond. Maybe its a bit of an incentive to him to get stuck in tomorrow with a view to getting a place in the team next season. If Steve, Matty, Ulrich and Max turn up tomorrow and perform to their true abilities, it just takes our reserves to outscore theirs and we're in with a chance despite the 12 point deficit. I remember Jamie Habbin scoring 1 point a few years ago when we beat Peterborough in the Gold Cup final, and as he pointed out, if he hadn't scored that point we would not have won the cup. Barker has had off days at Brough as has Eric Riss, so you never know! I was expecting England to get thumped this morning by the All Blacks and we know how that turned out. I've just talked myself into coming tomorrow night.

So Championship format for 2020 is one home and away then 2nd half of season split into north and south with one home and one away. Or that's what i'm hearing?!

Here's another with a speedway yheme.

i was talking about seemonds age . lol

Some stats issued by the Extraleague- Google translation Over 48 million video plays in media cooperation with WP Sportowe Fakty, 12 million TV viewership of all events related to PGE Ekstraliga in nSport + and ELEVEN SPORTS, as well as the aggregate attendance at stadiums amounting to almost 700 thousand. viewers. These are PGE Ekstraliga records from the recently completed season 2019. Although before the season there was a lot of voices that playing matches on Friday dates, and above all TV broadcasts on two channels from all 64 matches, will not cause development, it turned out that the best speedway league in the world flourished and reached a very wide spectrum of fans. On nSport + and ELEVEN SPORTS TV, not only LIVE broadcasts from matches were watched, but also other programs preceding the league queues and summaries. Together, this gave an impressive result to over 12,288,270 viewers LIVE broadcast records at nSport + in the 2019 season: WROZIE (14/04/2019) 206,772 ZIEGOR (28/07/2019) 203,859 POLISH (02/06/2019) 203,488 LIVE broadcast records at ELEVEN SPORTS in the 2019 season: WROLUB (31/05/2019) 188,475 ZIEGRU (26/04/2019) 136,790 GRULUB (23/08/2019) 131,775 The best viewed PGE Ekstraliga Magazine (LIVE on nSport +) was the issue of 11/08/2019 with a viewership rate of nearly 90 thousand. viewers. Viewership of PGE Individual International Extraleague Championships 2019, played in Gdansk, amounted to 172,188 spectators. Average LIVE TV viewership in the club ranking (nSport + and ELEVEN SPORTS) in the 2019 season: BETARD Sparta Wroclaw 152.296 STELMET Falubaz Zielona Góra 140.643 GET WELL Toruń 136,295 FOGO Unia Leszno 133,421 SPEED CAR Motor Lublin 129.897 MRGARDEN GKM Grudziadz 120.520 TRULY.WORK Stal Gorzów 117.588 forBET Włókniarz Częstochowa 112,683 For the first time in history, PGE Ekstraliga had its own online magazine. In cooperation with Wirtualna Polska Sportowe Fakty, the "Without Brake" program, run by Dariusz Ostafiński and Jarosław Galewski, recorded 8,161,147 plays (21 LIVE magazines) on the internet. The great added value of "Without Brakes" was the fact that it could be viewed directly on the homepage of Wirtualna Polska (wp.pl). In total, until October 1, 2019, in cooperation with PGE Ekstraliga and Wirtualna Polska, 389 video materials were broadcast regarding the games of the best speedway league in the world. Invariably, PGE Ekstraliga games were very popular directly at stadiums. A total of 692,129 spectators watched 64 matches of the last season. This gave an average of 10,815 spectators. Considering Friday's matches, 283,895 spectators watched them (9,789 on average). On Sunday, in turn, it was even better: 408,234 spectators (in total) and 11,663 (on average) In the ranking of the percentage filling stadiums at PGE Ekstralig matches, SPEED CAR Motor Lublin turned out to be the clear leader, which had a set of spectators at all matches. Percentage filling of PGE Ekstraliga 2019 stadiums: Lublin 100% Wroclaw 98.72% Zielona Góra 87.30% Grudziadz 85.71% Częstochowa 82.10% Leszno 67.04% Gorzów 59.37% Toruń 49.71% PGE Ekstraliga has seen considerable development on social media. The official mobile application for games has been downloaded 89 thousand. times. During the season, its screens were displayed almost 28 million times. The speedwayekstraliga.pl website gained 1.23 million views, counting only from April to October 2019. In social media, the Facebook profile has been invariably the most popular (96,000 likes, almost 97,000 fans' involvement), in front of an Instagram account (31,000 followers) and Twitter (13,000 followers). The official YouTube channel of PGE Ekstraliga gathered 11 thousand. subscribers, and the time of watching all productions measured in minutes closed with the sum of 1.592.717.

Thank god.

Berwick make it perfectly clear in this week's Star that they are planning for the Championship in 2020 - unless they have new owners, which is unlikely.

46.34 for Swindon to keep their same line up and others have the same limit, remember that swindon have 2 x 3 pointers in this side so Ipswich as an example could have this side 1. Iversen 7.54 2. Heeps 6.37 3. Grajczonek 7.29 4. King 6.83 5. Klindt 7.43 6. Allen 5.56 7. Covatti 5.27 I think this team would beat Swindon over two legs as the strength in depth is too much, so think the limit should stay at 42/42.5

To be fair, its not a 'Poole thing'.... For what seems like 'forever' away teams have arrived with guests... Often having agreed to a meeting knowing full well that their 'star rider' will be missing as required elsewhere, as lets be honest, their crowd wont be impacted by his absence. Or. They agreed to the meeting knowing they could bring in a couple of ringer track specialists to replace their known missing riders who might not be as good at that particular track.. Surprising how many times 'star riders' are always available for home meetings though... Given the reputation of the team competitions in the UK, it doesn't really matter who makes up the septets, so just ride under the banner of the two teams on the best nights you can get a crowd in... And as has been said, ensure your home side is strong so fans (who are obviously ok with contrived septets) can at least keep the faith that their team has a chance of winning their home meetings, thus will keep attending... And if you ride on the nights that traditionally brought you your best crowds, then you have more chance of getting those all important 'fans who used to be regulars', to attend more often than maybe they currently do now. . Much easier to bring them back into the speedway fold than attract newbies I would suggest..

Ellis Perks is now a Premiership, Championship and as good as a National League winner all in the one season, not many riders if any have done that in the one season.

Oh Gavan, Have I Got News For You? Can't wait til I can reveal it.....

You're not clinging on. You don't attend. You don't watch. All you do is post inaccurate negative bilge on this forum. You are not helping one iota with speedway's future. In fact it's downbeat, negative people like you that are as bigger part of the problem as anyone.