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You know, that would probably be the most named four... Funny how the most unpopular riders are all multi-world champs; says it all, really!

Friend of mine worked for years with Slater's when out of the blue they sacked him. Took them to court for funfair dismissal

On 30/9/1995 at 7:15 PM, Craig Boyce said: Tomasz Gollob

Simon Cross. Spoon.

then the body should be rested and not just turn up and go through the motions .. thats my thoughts ..

No the best race of the night is normally watching the must get out the car park first brigade, normally after heat 14.

I think I agree. But doesn't that support the argument that the Challenge should be after the GP season? The more current GP riders that take part in the plan B route, the more devalued the Challenge becomes. I know we still get 3 qualifiers from the Challenge, come what may. But we might have to go well down the finishing order to see who that is. And worse still, we won't know who those 3 are, on the night or potentially for many weeks. Surely the Challenge route was set up to provide a focused route for the top three riders to get into the GP series? Not as a safety net for riders in the middle and lower order of the current series.

Many tracks no longer fit with modern engines. Look at what is served up at some tracks that were superb even less than 10 years ago. Whilst its not the only reason for the lack of entertainment, team owners need to adapt their product (track shape/width etc) to suit the modern era. Very few have or will bother to do so. Entertainment IMO is about passing not necessarily speed and the ridiculous gulf between abilities at the top and bottom of the riders averages wont achieve that. Nor will poorly prepared tracks. If last night the riders were on £250 for the meeting that is likely to be around a quarter of what most of the top enders will take home. I'm not surprised they don't take it seriously or put themselves out. There is no prestige in these events and wont be again unless the competitors are adequately rewarded for taking part. Speedway doesn't even give out medals to the league winners far less reward the riders and their teams for being better than the rest over a season. The whole ethos up is fundamentally flawed but we already know that. Unfortunately we also accept its not going to change.

No it proves exactly what you are

The Steve Shovlar of Ipswich?

Could potentially be the last time we see Chris Harris in Witches Kevlars around Foxhall. Every cloud and all that..

Think about what your saying before you open your mouth if you don't know for sure what the real reason was.

Sounds broadly similar to the Cradley match last week, my first visit to the NSS and enjoyed the experience (if not the actual match!) Seeing the Colts guys deep in the dirt was a pleasure, especially Flint who has a fantastic style leaning over so far. Cradley couldn't lay a glove on the Colts, I can't remember the last time Clegg went a whole match without winning a heat, nor the last time he registered a last place but none of the Cradley riders were able to live with the home team. Harry McGurk was unlucky in the reserve race where he was in the mix for the lead and suffered engine troubles. Great value NL racing for sure at a fantastic venue, kids for free and £10 per adult is great stuff

Ha, you making it sound better than it actually was, it was a typical foxhall turdfest

Well if it is Eurosport lets hope the coverage is better than what they have dished up in the past, starting the broadcasts at Ht17 etc, Sky were definitely the best, and BT would have been ok if they had covered more meetings. Just an opinion.

Ha ha seriously? You just written the same guff as you put it, for the christ knows how manyth time. Just saying

So you expect reading racer to make sense!!

I was a big Kenny fan, & im from Worcestershire!

I hope that when the dust has settled from this debacle of a season there is some philanthropist willing to step in and repair the damage this season has caused to Panthers.

Dave is his uncle. Dave's brother and Ellis' father is former ref Robbie Perks Edit - correction Dave is ELLIS' great uncle.

The boo's that were made were out out of respect more than anything else he was the benchmark that everyone had to try to expire to..He certainly put bums on seats and when he came into town the place was buzzing.The incident Ivan had with Bob Kilby at the Abbey was the only time he may have been in the wrong that i ever witnessed but he was a hard but fair rider.

I seem to remember he pulled wheelies down every straight to keep the crowd entertained as they watched the less than edge of the seat spectacle of one rider completing four laps all alone.. Obviously the ref didn't appreciate his efforts.. Or lack of them as he saw it... You have to remember though that the crowd were primarily there to watch him referee, not to be entertained by the show the riders were putting on for them...

Greaves rode to the pits after someone fell bend 2 (thinking the race was gonna be stopped)and was excluded. Then Ayres and Phillip's either fell or had mechanicals and both set off to push for 3 laps, both were excluded for not completing the race in 3 mins.

Which is completely his own fault with the bare minimum cheap ass team he has provided us with this year.

Well Ben Morley did ride and scored 13 points in a match won by Kent 48-42

... and yet back in the "golden" days the tractors came out at the end of every race and did a couple of laps. Meetings dragged on for two hours - only 13 heats in those days too - but everything was sunshine and lollipops. Admittedly at most tracks the music being played today is the same as we listened to as the tractors tootled round in the 1970s

Totally agree. An awesome race with eight riders going from two gates. A great shame and frankly it really did not matter if it was not top draw riders it was the spectacle of those eight riders. Those were the days. I am sure you could get the riders to compete but maybe not those currently in this league who probably think it is beneath them. I know one or two who would put in some prize money of say £250 to £500 for the winner but it is probably not enough with the gate money to make attractive. Another part of the sport consigned to history.

Its not the first time that our team has been let down by substandard performances on the road. It appears that all riders must share the responsibility of failing to win a single match this year... Usually one or two will do well , but that is never enough. This result is not much of a surprise, what I pity it wasn't pick it up early in the season when it could have been addressed , and for us to have achieved one of those PO places... Again, also rans....

And Debs, you can add cross dressing to it's portfolio of weird

There are better mdl riders around Monmore than porsing.

By his own admission on Saturday, he shouldn't be riding anywhere. Very foolish imo.

Well I went, comfortable seat in the grandstand, I understand all Colt matches are grandstand seats only, so for £10 was good value. 7:30 start and over by 9:00. Tractor only out once and that was for about 4 laps. Scoreline suggests the match was one side, but couple of Mildenhall riders got in the mix a few times. What let Mildenhall down was engine failures. Couple of slow speed crashes so fortunately no one hurt. Good to see the youngsters, bodes well for the future.

Top 3 in the GP Challenge qualify and Zagar, Iversen proved they are the best of the rest and comfortably top 15 in the world.

I don’t think anyone in the Play Offs will want to face Wolves if they can help it, so easy to come away from there on the wrong end of a drubbing.

Tighter tracks will be much harder to ride with back or arm injuries. I think people are expecting too much from the lad right now.

So you should disgraceful

Jordan Palin is still 15 years old, so he won't be an asset of any Club.

Really no chance they may sneak a point.

Think it was completely tongue in cheek as you are supporting the in form team on Thur as we can do you a favour.

I’ll be a Robins fan Thursday whilst switching my loyalties back to Wolves at Poole.

You're so heartless.

Yes and it was a tough ask at the time , the eighties i can remember Tatum, Screen, Loram, Doncater to name a few going BL full time without experience.

Apologies for late reply. I was going to type it all out but "Call Me Wolfie" on the Wolves - King's Lynn thread had done this precis (Hope its ok Wolfie?). Now resolved to be Tues 17 Sept. CVS made some comments in the programme regarding the Peterborough meeting. Buster rescheduled the meeting for the 19th without consulting Wolves. When CVS contacted Peterborough about it they were very apologetic about it and removed the date from the fixtures and we've heard nothing since. CVS has tried to talk to Peterborough about it he was told that fixtures need to be agreed by Buster. CVS has had no choice but to ask the BSPA MC to intervene.He said in all his time involved in speedway he has never known anything like it

The very sad occasion of Gary Peterson's death.

£17 adults, £13 concessions, accompanied children free. Turnstiles will re-open in the interval between meetings. We estimate (OK we're guessing!!) the Glasgow match will start around 8pm. There has to be a 20 minute break between the end of Edinburgh and the Tigers (to allow preparations for the away side) so gates re-opening around 7.40 (probably, hopefully!)

Because he tells lies. He did not change bikes and did not alter anything on the bikes. If he was ill, fine, say that and stick to it. just be honest with the people who pay to watch I hope Nicholls gets a ban as when I heard the pay rates on Thursday, he was first name to spring to mind for not turning up. Charles Wright missed a meeting at Ipswich but rode either side of it, so he should have a ban. with no punishment it will carry on. The clubs should also get no facility to cover any bans for riders picking and choosing when to put in any effort or not.

Ron Preston was a great rider as well.

My all time favourite rider is Dan Forsberg who rode for Birmingham in 1952 and again in 1957. Dan was very much under-rated and was in my opinion, every bit as good a rider as were Ove Fundin and Olle Nygren - he was a pure racer and didn't have the ruthlessness of most of the other Swedes which is probably why he was so much overshadowed by them. Dan had a brilliant first season with the Brummies but was repeatedly obstructed by the Swedish authorities who resented him riding in England and put all kinds of obstacles in his way, which caused him to miss so many Birmingham matches and resulted in Les Marshall not retaining his services for the following season. When he returned to Birmingham in 1957 he looked as good as ever, only being beaten once by the opposition in the home fixtures in which he rode that year. It was my pleasure to meet him for the first time when he came over to watch the Brummies re-opening meeting in 2007.

Swindon could do with a spot of average management and also keeping Wolves out of the play-offs. Just saying.

Philiprising- Eurosport will be showing the Olympics in the UK in 2020 it’s only because of the protected rights legislation here that they have to allow a free to air broadcaster share the coverage. They also have a number of high profile snooker tournaments during the summer and as I previously indicated like with the SGP and British Speedway they are chasing after other rights some a lot bigger than Speedway including some football not UK but major European league as well as other high profile sports. So with just two channels my worry is that Speedway will get bumped on a regular occasion and viewers will end up with recorded replay. We shall have to see how it all works out the main thing is keeping the sport on British TV for fans and sponsors