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In the absence of Alpen, we will will be massive underdogs for this fixture. I just hope that we can pull together and sneak 3 points. Copyright: Steve Shovlar c/o Piaza Navona. Rome.

But that would give us Thomsen, Aspgren and Loktaev instead of Zagar, Iversen and Doyle. Is that really the way to improve the GP series?

Leads you to believe? Its a fact. And no, i am not a Poole supporter whatsoever . I just like to pass comment when people seem to slag off Poole for no reason , doesnt mean I support them. I dont think i could ever support a club that has Lisa Collette and Starman as fans to be honest .

Of course current GP riders should be allowed in the Challenge. It’s only top 8 in the GPS that are guaranteed a place the next year. It’s up to those riders outside of this years 15 to prove themselves worthy of a spot next year, and that means beating those 9-15. If they can’t do that it means they really in position 16 and downward.

Then perhaps it should be included in the next GP TV contract, as a service to the loyal followers of the sport. If we can have meaningless practice sessions televised (I know the cost is marginal with the cameras already there), there must be a way to provide the pictures and show one of the most significant individual meetings of the season outside the GP itself. One Sport can get their irrelevant meetings televised, even if in Britain we're supposed to be grateful to see more than a couple of races. As for those practice sessions, the hype is truly at desperation level and was beautifully punctured by Woffinden at the last GP. Practice timings work in a sport with grid positions or where timing is essential . Neither have ever been relevant in speedway, well unless you include 'fastest second' from the days of second half Rider of the Night events..... Yes it's good for the sport to get an extra hour. The interviews are the only point of interest to me. I'd rather have three hours of highly significant racing tonight, involving the only stats that matter in speedway, 3 for a win, 2 for second, 1 for third. EDIT: Secondary thought: Surely Dorna are there for FIM TV? They have been in the past so if that is still the case the question of finding someone to televise it would be academic. The FIM TV highlights package used to be sold to channels such as Motors TV, like their ice racing coverage. #;

Its pretty apparent which Poole fans are also speedway fans But Poole have their fair share of blinkered fools and trolls and multi alias fans ..........

In the words of that Don McClean classic Stoory Stoory night

Don’t get me wrong I hope you sign him

A) he earned his rightful place in the GP therefore yes, he can. B) you do realise why he's not been in the GPs this year right? Show some compassion.

Either buster thinks we're all stupid or he just doesn't care what we think. It's the Peterborough fans I feel sorry for, The Panthers have been used as a sacrificial lamb all season. British Speedway is rapidly becoming a laughing stock under Busters control.

Far too inconsistent from the gate. There is a reason he hasn’t had a permanent top flight spot for several years.

Hitting form? Sounds like you've been hitting the bottle.

Bit harsh, he was leading heat 4, when on the last lap, he locked up and came down. Cameron then hit Garrity's bike which acted as ramp to propel him through the air, a la Freddie Lindgren. into the air fence. It looked like CW might have smashed in to his own handlebars, and it was subsequently announced as resulting in apparently a possible broken rib. To be fair it was a simple fall by Garrity, and nothing reckless about Jason's riding, who immediately went over to apologise to Cam. Despite the scoreline, there was some decent racing, with Garrity inflicting Masters only defeat in the final race. Although Garrity's travel problems are a source of irritation and criticism, when he is on his game on the track, he is well worth watching.

I totally agree. It seems a nonsense that those performing poorly in the GP can do so with the comfort of knowing that the back door is still ajar. No rider in the GP should be allowed in the GP challenge and should only be allowed in the following year if they cannot qualify on merit in the then current GP campaign. No wonder the sport is not taken seriously.

Special mention to Speedwaylive.org whoever is streaming it deserves a medal !!

But you don't know the why, where and how any more than me - so you can't assert 'he could have been there'. Anyway - would you lend Jason a bike............. :-)

I thought Lewis had a dog......

Hoping for: Fricke, Vaculik and Michelsen as the top 3, the only riders who could mix it at the top Level. Wouldn't mind: Lambert, Anders Thomsen, Bjerre or Niels Dear God no's: Pavlic, Ljung, Harris, Bellego

Yes. It is the way forward for major events not covered by a TV deal. Take Sweden this year - PPV in use. 72 matches plus 10 play-offs over 5 months at about £16 per month. About £1 per match!

He's a Poole asset isn't he?

Because he rode for Redcar last night and got a maximum 24 hours after being ruled out of Peterporough side through injury

It would be good to have the 1st heat start at 8pm, especially as speedway's good friend R/R will be appearing again!

also @speedwaystarmag

Doesn't really matter who is in the team.

I think he's suggesting just Agertoft he hasn't heard of hence 'never even heard of ONE of them '

Then no one in authority within British Speedway can ever moan about a lack of mainstream media coverage Neil.. Nor can they complain about a lack of blue chip company sponsorship for their teams and the league as a whole.. Imagine, for example, Tesco sponsoring the Panthers? Their brand will be linked to such nonsense that is allowed to pervade week in week out within Speedway and therefore could become damaged by its association.. Ultimately this means there is no way these major companies would get involved with something so devoid of any credibility in the context of a bona fide National Sporting Championship.. In fact it probably is good news to a large degree that it is constantly ignored by the wider media given its so open to ridicule. Imagine Poland running Speedway like this with the exposure they get every week? Believe me, it wouldn't get anywhere near the same wall to wall coverage, fan base or sponsorship from national companies if they did.. Two months of what we accept over here would see a collapse of their Leagues and crowds akin to the GB levels as TV companies and sponsors would drop it like a stone.. If you can't do something properly then probably best not to do it at all as, with all things, you are only as good as your weakest link.. And Speedway in the UK have more weak links due to its operating model than is good for the brand..

It’s what is needed to show the supporters that there club is worth supporting.If they don’t do something I can see the numbers go down drastically .

Wright rode for Redcar tonight. Garrity ride for Birmingham. Barker rode for Scunthorpe. Who's betting somewhere in Europe Tungate didn't also. Joke. Joke. Joke.

Whoosh

Ostergaard, Becker, Morley, Agertoft. You’ve ‘never even heard of one of them’? • Peterborough stalwart for many years • 2019 Wolverhampton rider • 2018 Lakeside rider (did we race then at all last year?) • Agertoft as a CL reserve I accept may be off your radar. Given the timing of the rider withdrawals, and the other fixtures last night - what would you suggest? And no, postponement wasn’t an option.....

Cannot be any worse than having the same old faces who are never going to make it. Might just as well have Harris in it and a few others who are well passed the sell by date. Mix it up and put some new names in the frame. Zagar and Iversen have had the chances and do not deserve the back door route. Doyle is a different issue but in general the whole system is flawed. It needs a revamp to have the greatest number of riders eligible to make to the worlds number one and give hope to new talent no just the slap rans.

Fricke ok, but the other two? Yawn.

True, but he's great to watch. I miss Nicki for the same reason. I'm fed up of watching riders like Iversen and Zager. They don't add anything anymore imo.

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defiantly

how sad mike that we are both fighting off the wooden spoon. not sure if it is luck or lack of it that holds us back but I really thought stoke had built a good team this year but we have just not found the right balance and riders who you would have thought would have improved just have not quite made it. in joe alcock particularly you can see he is brave and got good speed but all too often he will get into a good position then slide off gifting the other team points. still lets hope we can both finish with a flourish and move up a bit. come on the potters.

He took ice speedway quite seriously Steve ? i only see Conny ride once for Oxford Pander was another who i missed when he was in his pomp.

Good News - announced on Monarchs website, x-rays confirm Cam no broken ribs, but he is in pain due to bruisng

Up to Weds 21 Aug..CMA Doyle...10.05 Batchelor..9.28 Fricke...9.16 Bjerre.. 9.02 Cook..8.61 Kurtz..8.45 Lambert..8.21 Jensen..8.00 Grajczonek..7.90 Masters..7.85 Loads of Aussies!

Jason getting a lot of unfair stick imo…..we love him at Brum and if there's a rider out there that tries to win every race, regardless of the importance/result, then it's definitely him! Which is a lot more than can be said of some speedway riders, who just go through the motions, or protect an average etc...…. Give me a team of 'Garritys' any day!

Great days, me with my mum and dad always did Wolves on a Friday, Cradley on a Saturday and Birmingham on a Monday. I was at Gothenburg when Ole won his first world title. The two riders always give Ole a good run for his money around Wolves was Michanek and Ray Wilson

I don't blame the promotion at all and the fans at the track witnessed a decent meeting.

For many who have started watching the sport over the past decade, Rider Replacement could be their favourite....

Lambert looked very tentative in his first comeback race just now

The meeting shouldn't have taken place.. It did the sport zero favours and renders the whole competition completely irrelevant if it is held in such disregard and contempt by those who organise it. The riders got the chance of another pay cheque though and I suppose that's the Number One reason the sport exists (in the UK) these days..

He is absolute garbage at this level though and has had many chances . Why not try Thomsen? Having a higher average than the other two means absolutely sod all. Barrie Evans used to be superb in the NL and then rubbish in the Championship , much like Morley.

Morley has a higher average than both has been National league riders champion twice.but then your an expert on booze in Aussie...I can't compete with that ,!

Johnson has picked the team off facebook, all the people on the supporters group have been asking for ostergaard and he’s delivered. He was an average Championship rider 5 years ago, so god help us

I went to one or two meetings that last season. Often, the nearest spectator was 50 yards away!

Somewhere in the mists of forum time I asked what was going to happen when the big boys started bullying the Thompson. They both have talent but only know one way to turn the throttle and no experience. Not surprised they are now getting hurt.