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So, we have Dudek probably best gater in the world, Laguta up there with him, add Madsen and Hancock - stick them in the same race and it could be a real bun fight in the first corner. I think Polish speedway authorites are spoiling speedway. There should be no top class speedway the night before a world GP anywhere. Riders deserve to be able to put in the max effort to win the world championship, the pinnacle of any sport.

AUSTRALIA ? With no EU law restricting You in the future, You can call on the Aussie boys, who are eager to come over, and unliek many of the Europeans they are loyal to British speedway, not having to ride in their home country every other week durign the European season

Principally because the ‘better off’ teams wouldn’t share around their riders so some teams struggled badly. The British league of 1965 was successful because it provided more variety of opposition plus teams were put together under the ‘ rider control’ system. Maybe a similar system would initially be required - especially if Buster owns all the clubs!

Kev got 8+1 from 4 this season with Worrall and Clegg beating him so not to bad (Worrall and Wethers beating Starke this season). Maybe Berwick can learn a trick or two from Newcastle who last season used a facility for a rider who was taking time out the sport despite the 28 day facility running out the day before (this costing Berwick a top 4 place).

Because of the stupid way the authorities run the sport!! riders have a different average for team building than they do for green sheets which govern team structure and riding order etc then, they switch to rolling averages Adam’s team building average was this years Premiership times 1.5 now, the ROLLING averages kick in which include his second division scores from last season, plus this years Brum scores, hence the drop

Traditional Race Sheet for 2019 Slovenian GP :- https://www.keepandshare.com/doc16/23358/gp-2019-2-pdf-434k?da=y

It’s took a number of seasons for the “penny to finally drop” with Ford &Co.The fans have been telling them for years

If it was mandatory that reserves had to be British u21s, that would be a great step forward. It was disgraceful that it was dropped a couple of seasons ago. Bring on our own talent. We will benefit in the long term.

Having just watched the GP Qualifiers for tomorrow’s SGP in Krsko, I was surprised to see that Polish clubs had precedence over the FIM on GP riders in qualifying for gate positions in an FIM event. Last nights Danish final took two Poole riders out of a league event to ride in an FIM event. Seems to me that the Polish Speedway Authorities are doing a Winston Churchill to the FIM!!! Might be a good idea if the FIM were to inform the Poles who are are the sports “Governing” body, that’s if they’ve got the B4LL5’s..

THE SON is in effect the World Team Cup but with a different format.

Pri1ck like his brothers Holder

Drop the h from my name and I will take the job

The tradition for speedway clubs is to look after their own business and not realise that a strong league is vastly more important than becoming the last man standing and having no one to race against. Poole, after all the trophies they have won the last 15 years, and scoffing a lot of calories in riding talent to serve their purpose, are perhaps realising that winning isn't the be all and end all and can leave fans feeling bloated.

Just Gavan with his anti Poole agenda, Jack is not a brat.

That was mainly because the " Haves " refused to help the "have nots" with riders making it a really unbalanced league.- The promoters talked a good game but failed to implement it properly !!!!

Just a bit of twit-for-tat after Heat 6!!

Oh poor Hans , that's a shame when he was going so well, hopefully a speedy recovery.

I posted this on another thread but thought it was fitting for it to be here as well. I think Polish speedway authorites are spoiling speedway. There should be no top class speedway the night before a world GP anywhere. Riders deserve to be able to put in the max effort to win the world championship, the pinnacle of any sport.

Damn that's bad news, speedy recovery hans.

THE Danish Final isn't an FIM event ... with British tracks not racing at home every week some fixture planning should not go amiss.GP practice isn't compulsory so the riders can chose. However, I do agree that the FIM should have stopped Polish tracks from staging meetings involving GP riders on a Friday before a World Championship round. But not all agree.

you get your chequebook out then

Meeting costs are not affected by the number of riders (apart from travel money). It's the number of heats and therefore points that determine the outlay.

In the Speedway Star (edition dated 25 May 2019), the 'Spotlight On' article on page 23 featured MSC Olching of Germany. It mentioned that the Olching team had undertaken a tour of UK Second Division tracks in 1973. Well, the article reminded me of perhaps the biggest anti-climax in my entire almost 50 years of watching speedway. One of the clubs Olching visited was my hometown team, Boston Barracudas, and pre-match it was advertised as likely being one of the toughest matches the ‘Cudas were going to face that entire season. I can still remember the excitement building up to the start of the match – I was a teenager and a programme seller at New Hammond Beck Road in those days – and I remember we even opened the turnstiles, and began selling programmes, earlier than usual for the 6.45p.m. start. But oh dear - what a let-down!! The result? BOSTON BARRACUDAS 64 – 12 OLCHING It was the old 13 heats format back then, of course, when a maximum a team could score was 65 points. And, if I remember correctly without visiting the loft to dig out the programme, the only Boston rider to be beaten and not score a max/paid max that day was Tony Featherstone. Apologies to ‘Tiger Tony’ if it wasn’t him. Such was that score line totally unexpected, and the match a huge anti-climax, the Barracudas' management published an apology in both the local Boston Standard newspaper, and in the following week’s programme, for the one-sided nature of the meeting. Thankfully, there was lots of excitement during that year to more than compensate for that particularly disappointing Sunday evening - the Barracudas completing a League and KO Cup double!! I can’t honestly remember the other tracks that Olching visited on that tour, but maybe some supporters will be able to add to this thread with their memories of the German club’s visit to race against their team?

Will you stop posting Scorpians. It is Scorpions! Hope you will oblige Spidermon

So the Premiership has Mondays and Thursdays as their fixed race nights but other countries can still take priority on those days! So exactly why do we bother with fixed race nights?

Usual rubbishe from Philips again time to go I think!

Yes and all the Somerset fans said he was a changed rider last year, therefore he is not like that any more.

Your entitled to your opinion (of course I accept that) but do you seriously think that anybody attending for the first time, or even the occasional attender, reads this forum ??? there's only you, H Gould, UK Martin and myself, that make regular comments??? : ) As for GA, he makes a lot of sensible and very diplomatic points, but his loyalties obviously lie in protecting the business that he works for. Hence the comment about Zach ??? I'd much rather see Tobias Thomsen in the side. Zach may have top scored a couple of times, but he hasn't passed a rider all season! P.s the benefit for the Eastbourne fans (re: the weather) is that they have a 400 mile round trip …..I thought that was pretty obvious??? If it helps the club I wont mention the weather again : )

Wtf are you on about? Dan is and always has been an aces rider. He never agreed to ride for you or any other CL team in 2019.

And all that success is seemingly worthless as MF has something which no-one wants to buy ( except possibly Buster Chapman at a knockdown price ). As he has taken so much cash out of the club over the years, when the terraces were heaving, he turned out to be another who never bothered to at least maintain his track reasonably. As for saying how much you lost on a recent match - how is that going to attract a buyer ( except the aforementioned Buster with £10k in his pocket)? Do UK speedway clubs have any value except to a gambler like Buster? But when the New Dawn era finally arrives all will be well - do you think?

Ha, think you need to watch it again. Emil was a big girl crying over a move which was fair and really quite tame for a GP.

I agree it was just a speedway race hard riding

So many ifs and buts to this tie. I've seen Lasse Bjerre be brilliant and poor at Berwick, TJ and Matty Wethers could be big spoilers tonight, are Jye and Coty fit?, will Dany Gapp be jekyll and hyde over the two legs?, will Berwick have any backup to Spud and NBJ tomorrow night? For me it is a 50/50 tie. Decent weather today, hopefully big crowds for the two legs and a good cup tie atmosphere.

Might be giving Polish speedway maximum exposure but does it produce world champions. Top Polish riders have been in the world championship finals since mid-late 50's, thats over 60 years but they only produced 2 world champions - and one of them whilst he rode very well on the day he won it, he didnt do much else on the world scene. What do you remember the most - who was world champion or who won a Polish domestic meeting.?

https://m.sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/823567/im-danii-niespodzianka-w-polfinale-rasmus-jensen-najlepszy-w-brovst

Because he came in on his converted PL average which was 9+. Now he is on a rolling average which uses last year's CL average which was 7+.

Rather not be called the crappiest team in Manchester thanks! Holder is no cry baby, it was Nicholls who was crying!

YES it is. But with GP practice not being compulsory, riders know what side their bread is buttered and will race in Poland on a Friday not only for the money on offer that particular night but to ensure their future lucrative employment with the club. The FIM have definitely looked at stopping this but legally it would open a can of worms.

Should be another cracking night with two rivals going head to head. Berwick have great strength in numbers but Newcastle probably have the best heat leader trio in the PL. If I had to put my neck out, I'd say Berwick to take it just over the 30 races.

Now that is what I call a team !! Mr Thrower the team managers job awaits you !

So you are saying it is the riders choice where he rides?

http://michaelknighton.co.uk/

British speedway should have come out of the FIM years ago and done their own thing. The FIM have never been interested in the sport this side of the channel

Some interesting comments. I'd prefer 7 man teams and a 45 point limit with a stipulation of Under 21 British Reserves and help kids like Zach,Kemp; Brennan,Thomas,Bickley etc by adjusting their average down to a maximum of 4 until they are 20/21. If we have 7 in PL and 11 in CL surely we could keep 15/16 of the 18 in business and may be a couple move down to NL (Brummies most likely to do that anyway and I hear Berwick struggling for crowds too). I think most would love a 15-16 team league. I'd not want it split geographically though as that would defeat object; and would need to be able to race all 7 days to succeed as many CL are Sat/Sun tracks.

What Mr Ford did mention was supporters getting used to success and that sometimes it's best to give them second place and leave them wanting more. At a time when league speedway is set-up for a win at all costs, perhaps we may revert to a time when supporters were interested in watching their team, their riders, no matter how good, and that winning isn't the be all and end all.

It would create more variety. But, as someone mentioned, certain riders would be put off by the increase of meetings, the same riders I bet who say they ride in Poland and Sweden because there aren't sufficient meetings over here. The set-up would have to be what all clubs could afford, perhaps on second division level of pay. Perhaps replace riders who refuse to race the extra meetings with hungrier ones who perhaps would never get a chance, from the lesser countries. More meetings would hopefully cut the need for riders to flit to and fro other countries. This would hopefully reignite the meaning of a proper team sport and not freelancers. British speedway doesn't rule the waves any longer, so we have to sort of begin from scratch and rebuild. Even have money-spinning meetings every so often during the season and invite big stars to race.

Riss couldn't come in as a direct replacement for Kerr. Alternatively we could keep Lambert,bring Douglas in for Kerr,heard he's pretty handy,Riss in for Proctor and Iversen in for Jorgensen.Sure that brings us to 42.44.How would that look. 1.Lambert 2.Riss 3.Iversen 4.Toft 5.Cook 6.Douglas 7.S.Lambert C'mon Buster dig deep

15 permanent riders now known. Full line up of SEC 2019 is revealed now. Starting list goes as below 1. Leon Madsen (Denmark) 2. Jarosław Hampel (Poland) 3. Robert Lambert (Great Britain) 4. Mikkel Michelsen (Denmark) 5. Antonio Lindbaeck (Sweden) 6. Grigory Laguta (Russia) 7. David Bellego (France) 8. Vaclav Milik (Czech Republic) 9. Michael Jepsen Jensen (Denmark) 10. Kacper Woryna (Poland) 11. Anders Thomsen (Denmark) 12. Paweł Przedpełski (Poland) 13. Bartosz Smektała (Poland) 14. Kai Huckenbeck (Germany) 15. Nicki Pedersen (Denmark)

The slicker the track the better the racing is at nesr all tracks. It's a bloody myth that grip gives good racing. Grip just makes the guys in front quicker meaning harder to pass Keep the track slick. Dont grade it till about heat 10 which allows a little dirt line out by the fence which then gives an extra racing line for the riders. But then I'm no track curator so probably talking bullcrap

The idea that a rider who was caught up in a scandal that really hurt speedway in the country big time lost respect for one of the greatest riders we ever saw is quite hilarious......