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Didn't please Ged & Neil though did it?

Basically...... Louis needed a number 1 on a specific average, Tungate has had issues with Ippo in the past, so wasn't an option but Harris was. Louis speaks to Chapman and puts the case to them saying Harris fits and could Panthers go with Rohan Chapman thinks this pleases both parties and agrees. Anyone else see this?

or fans...

Think you need to read the posts above. Seems like Ipswich had no desire for tungate due to some issues.

So hopefully this will put to bed how people think Chapman is running the show. He has purely bought the two clubs to keep the league running. He doesn't say who is riding for who or he would have made Tungate available for Ipswich surely.

Seen this a few times and it’s starting to grate to be honest. The fact is, it’s Ipswich that won’t have Tungate back, NOT that Tungate won’t ride for Ipswich. The rider himself has publicly said he’s asked Chris Louis and Ritchie Hawkins about a team place, and received no reply. He’s simply not welcome back at Ipswich. Good luck to him at Peterborough though. As I said earlier, makes Peterborough stronger. Tungate will be in the 7-8 average range, Harris will drop to 6-7. IMO.

Beginning to think that its possible Harris was asked to go to Ipswich on the same terms and maybe even with a bonus, so that Tungate could join the only club he would ride for of Chapmans teams, it solved Ipswich's problem and the fact he had an asset that he could now use. What role Ged and Neil played in this no one will ever know, does perhaps make Peterborough a bit stronger looking but doesn't stand well in PR terms. If Cooks actual average before the reduction is higher than Tungate's which average will they use for riding position within the team the one used for team building purposes.

Tungate is "owned" by Ipswich and as Ipswich is now "owned " by Buster it saves money for Buster to use one if his riders. Unlike a lot of "no 1s" Tungate was willing to ride in the PL but was never ever going to ride for Ipswich or possibly Kings Lynn. Personally I think it makes Peterborough stronger but it was the way it was done that was the issue treating the fans with contempt and disregard.

Never worried about the event, just the way it was done

Do not think it would have happened under Horton unliked as he is. Buster it would appear has undermined the authority of those in charge

Yes......... ..... in departures

1968/83 loved Swindon on a Saturday night when every visiting side had a true in/out no 1.

or more like Al Jolson

The main one being that he's a miserable little git.

I think you're forgetting that Bjerre said that it was Chapman who he was negotiating with about signing for Peterborough. You might think that on that basis he was doing or controlling all of the negotiations. Like others, I think Tungate makes a good Peterborough side even stronger. It's a shame we had to lose both him and Cook to get under the points limit. I hope both have good seasons, I think they will.

Tungate won't create the unity in the pits that Harris would have, Poole discovered that Harris is worth far more than just the points he scores, so those who think this makes the team stronger, I wouldn't be too sure.

Bang on the money.

It’s £12 for adults & £10 concessions

Robbing Peter to pay Paul is not the right way to do things !!! If that's true, I think Buster should release a book called: 'How to Pi55 everybody off, with fingers in too many pies'

Great Panthers team. But as said, handled dreadfully.

Totally agree, handled dreadfully. Do they honestly think the supporters are that stupid? They should have just told the truth, I think most would have accepted that or at least appreciated the honesty. It's been a very damaging episode - a PR disaster at the time when they should have been pushing season tickets & attracting sponsors, all the positivity has been undone & it looks very much like we have lost Ged.

PUK?

Fridays on the M5 are horrendous I travel up from Exeter and that's really bad, coming the other way is even worse.

Not sure why this is being done to be honest... There must be (at least) around a 50% drop in attendances over the past 10 years, and much more than that in the last twenty.. Therefore, talking to people who still go (the huge minority in the country) won't for me give any solutions to any issues.. I personally don't attend (British domestic Speedway) anymore due to the constant Mickey Mouse contrived nonsense put out in front of me, however those who still go obviously are happy to collude with Promoters that it's a bona fide professional sporting competition, and fair play to them for their stance.. Therefore, by their very attendance, they must be reasonably content with what is being offered. And by their very belonging to a Supporters Club in the first place, it also suggests this.. What the BSPA need to do is their spend time engaging with the 99.95%of the population who don't attend a Speedway meeting each week rather than the 0.05% who do... A failing business would be far better off speaking with those who used to use you, or have never heard of you, rather than those who have remained loyal, even more so when that business has haemorrhaged so many customers in the past couple of decades in particular.. Several other Sports run similar meetings to see if it can any add value to, and enhance, an already strong operating and business model... Speedway sadly doesn't possess such a thing, so not sure that even the best ideas will do much more than cover the gaping wounds with a sticking plaster in all honesty..

I've seen quite a few riders riding like an old woman... Steve

Shouldn't be more than £10 for NL racing, but will probably be £13.

For goodness sake - you tried to disrupt the lakeside thread on a similar subject, why don't you just leave the things you mention to the folks who put their hard earned time and money on the line for this cause. It's actually an insult imo for you to post something like this. So pompous. Best wishes to everyone connected with the Coventry cause - don't let such negativity from pillocks like this disrupt the passion you all have.

Think he lives in Kent.

I am pleased to say I saw racing at all of your ten and wish I had got to The Firs for both Speedway and Stock Cars!

Well I never saw that coming!

The management really kept that one as a surprise didn't they? They might as well confirm MPT, Kerr, Riss & Jorgensen while they're at it. Welcome back Ty.

Aye,,, especially with us having 'Killy links'

ADD Wimbledon, Wembley, Hackney, Crayford, West Ham, Romford, Rye House, Harringay, Leicester Super, Belle Vue, Cradley Heath, oh dear, I seem to have gone over ten, better make it 50 for safety! I saw racing at those mentioned except Leicester Super and although I prefer smaller tracks it has always interested me what racing there would have been like.

Yep, that was Deborah Cherry who researching Fay Taylour also. I shared quite a bit of info with her a few years back when she was working on the Fay project. Steve

Cub's admission prices now on the Lion's website. Season ticket holders can get in for £10.

Hi don't think I have any records prior to 2012. I will at some point have a look at doing what you want from 2012 onwards, but it won't be immediate.

This is not about amateur football

Martin Ashby, Bob Kilby, Clive Hitch, Pete Munday, Mike Broadbank, Mike Keen, Geoff Bouchard, Bernie Leigh, Peter Collins and Terry Betts. Slight Swindon bias I will admit

Carl Johnson is trying to gee up the troops by putting on a brave face while the dictator has dodged all the flack, so far anyway

INTERESTING even for technical morons like me... thanks Ash

Panthers have a top class signing lined up according to Carl Johnson. That's an odd way to describe Rohan Tungate

Well deserved, good club and track

My go as I have a few favourites Huxley,Crump P,Crump J,Todd Wiltshire,....ran out.That is all folks

I would have thought, and I'm no expert, that getting the base right was the most important factor. We all remember the nonsense that was Bristol and I recall that when Peterborough's track was first laid they dug down a number of feet to lay a decent foundation so as the track wouldn't cut up and also drain satisfactorily.

Great news! the BSPA have started the ball rolling how to get G.B. speedway back on it's feet: Replace the easily recognised Yellow & Black helmet colour with the less obvious solid Yellow.

"The Robins chief was instrumental in the preparation of the racing surface leading up to the first five British Speedway Grand Prixs held at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff." ... And who remembers what death traps they were!

Bit of both: https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17377892.swindon-robins-chairman-terry-russell-plans-to-start-work-on-improved-abbey-stadium-race-track-layout-next-month/?fbclid=IwAR3uizI8HG0iYr6vtKHJvPqEKDEuBoKA5qsXoEEvVyXw5VELs4LpjlPNTyY This bit frightens me: I'm not track expert, but I'm pretty sure Cardiff is only used for a single meeting. I'm not sure that you can translate their construction approach and use it for a track which is going to me used every week.

That's the way..... We don't know the teams or the facts yet. We might never know all the facts, but surely as a "speedway fan" a King's Lynn one at that, you would be happy if all 3 clubs had good season and attracted enough fans to go again in 2020. As with all the clubs in the UK. " Says something when a Lynn fan would rather see Busters clubs all fail, because you don't like the bloke !! You would rather Ippo and Boro had crap seasons which will result in bad crowds and the clubs in problems ?? As a Lynn and a speedway fan, I would rather both Ippo and the Panthers finish above Lynn if it was a toss up between that and them finishing bottom, with no fans left... and we loose another club. If you hate Buster that much that you want all 3 clubs to fail this season, then I suggest, well I won't, but are you really a speedway fan or just someone who has a problem.

I think that if you had taken the time to follow, read fully, and digest what has been stated by the Save Coventry Group on this issue you would understand that they don't expect this to be easy. They aren't making any promises or bold statements , but anyone with common sense can see that they have their plan and they are working extremely hard to save the stadium from the developers. I'm sure they are fully aware of all the possible pitfalls yet continue to do their best to secure a future for speedway/stocks.

Who dug him up?