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  1. I have no sympathy whatsoever for Richie Worrall. The man is very fond of using social media to have a go other riders, fans, tracks and other teams. Nothing wrong with been outspoken, but if you live by the sword you die by the sword.
    10 points
  2. Well Done to all at Redcar - what a superb event, without doubt the best organised fours in recent years! Even with the difficulties caused by scorching sun and a drying wind the track produced it's usual top class racing - full marks to the track staff who were fighting the dust all day (and mostly winning). Note to other promotions - fans are happy to watch tractors going round when they know it is only going to enhance their enjoyment, both from a racing and comfort aspect, which is exactly what happened on Sunday, everyone could see the time taken was making necessary improvements and accepted it! No doubt the Scottish fans were delighted to get home at a reasonable time this year, highlighting the benefits of having the event more central (for the Championship) If Redcar want the event next year they have my vote!
    9 points
  3. With respect, who cares what the f you say. You've been a member for 13 years and only just piped up recently...you aren't Subedei are you ? #c*t
    6 points
  4. My opinion sunshine .but then you dont like other peoples opinion
    4 points
  5. If speedway went in house that’s pretty much where it will stay, only current fans would get to see it and personally I wouldn’t purchase it, I can see a tiny financial benifit for speedway itself but no sponsor in their right mind would be interested as it has no audience, I do think BT is selling us a bit short with the money but that’s totally our own fault, BT deal in millions v speedway deal in peanuts, no wonder who the winner is there, we have the perfect platform and get decent viewing figures but we can’t get our own house in order, we need to turn the viewing figures into punters on the terraces and we will never do that with in house filming, we have to be out there in the big wide world
    4 points
  6. GOOD NEWSDanyon Hume suffered no broken bones in last night’s crash at Cradley. However he is battered and bruised (understandably), and will miss Sunday’s National Trophy trip to Buxton.Also wishing Cradley’s Chris Widman a speedy recovery who suffered a fractured wrist.
    3 points
  7. Is that a new saying Still, it could be worse, the panthers could be having a good season and picking up more silverware.............mmmmmm, hang on a moment.
    3 points
  8. As you would expect for such a fantastic stadium, the costs are significantly higher than most/all other stadiums in the country so I don't think it shows poor management to be losing money. What they need to do is to find ways of getting more people there and other revenue streams.
    3 points
  9. Crikey, that's a name from the past - remember him well, for all the wrong reasons!
    3 points
  10. Poor decision by Promotion to single out an individual IMO.Maybe an article saying they are Disapointed with comments would have been enough.Certain Promotions make remarks in their programmes regarding forums but they are entitled to,but it could be taken as as bit underhand but it's their way of telling you who is running the show lump it or leave it.Fair enough, if fans take offence they may stay at home,that's the chance they take.
    2 points
  11. I can't even begin to think how that would work.
    2 points
  12. And on what do you base your opinion? So far as I know you have not yet visited the NSS so it can't be from having attended every week. The promotion are trying many ideas to increase crowds, a new social media campaign is going to start soon and running the Colts with an entrance fee of £10 and kids under 18 free is seen as a way of attracting new and younger fans. The hope before FNR was to increase the 1500 average last year year towards 2000 this year but the enforced Monday nights have had the opposite effect. I would estimate our average crowds this year at more than 1000, maybe 1200 with the bank holiday meetings.
    2 points
  13. Not sure why there was need for any apology really. Does anybody take Jenga seriously.
    2 points
  14. But some critics have the nerve to make statements like that, when they were asked to pay to get in and they walked away to then be a permanent critic. Didn't you.
    2 points
  15. What does it cost . lets start on a meeting draw thats 45 points per team. Across the board you would say 100 per point so thats £4500.00, the there are tyres, matchday staff including doctor, ambulance services, paramedic, starting marshal's pit marshall, inspector referee and timekeeper turnstile operators.track staff, tractor driver, fuel, et al. Now if this is my business i have to pay myself and any others, marketing, stadium upkeep or lease, power, maintenance the list goes on. I have only a window of around 20 meetings at home and i still have to pay the riders for away meetings the figures prove difficult reading if you think that a few years ago i was getting 80-90k from tv revenue and now I get 14. Would riders go part time some may but if they get injured how will this affect the day job and could they expect their employer to give them the time off to travel from the North to say poole. I dont have the answers but I do know that big big changes to the sport are due and one I would like is a management committee that does not have its head so far in the sand and so disconnected with its revenue paying customers.
    2 points
  16. A very well reasoned reply to my thoughts on Richie and very much appreciated and a good insight from a behind the scenes point. Much more balanced than the call yourself a Glasgow Supporter pish, do this and say that etc etc. Cheers for the insight .
    2 points
  17. Comedy gold you can't even spell intellectual !!
    2 points
  18. Who are you to judge me or anybody, I am expressing an opinion on a rider that has massively underperformed for the team I have supported since the 70s, there are split opinions on Richie on here and in general I would imagine. But don't come on here albeit I am guessing you are connected in some way and preach to me or any other GLASGOW SUPPORTER on our thoughts on anything really. So yes I will call myself a Glasgow Supporter ARE YOU ?.
    2 points
  19. Best track prep arrangement was at Rye House probably about 2003/4 when Len Silver employed two small tractors, one with a small bowser on the back and the other one with a flat grader. After each heat, and whilst the riders were leaving the circuit on bend 1, the two tractors come out of bend 4 centre green and did a quick couple of circuits just before the next race riders were coming out onto the track. They took no extra time, but the condition and preparation was the same for all 15 heats. Only time I have ever seen such good preparation. Unfortunately it probably can't be done now, as the tractors were ready on the centre green area and also entered the track whilst riders were either leaving or entering the circuit. "Elf and Safety you know.
    2 points
  20. Time to get your hearing tested then. It was probably Redcar's second biggest gate ever after the fantastic crowd on their opening night. Well supported by mainly local Northern clubs,
    2 points
  21. Never spoken to Starman and it isn't on my to do list!!
    2 points
  22. So much of what generates a crowd these days is down to great marketing and hype.. I have mentioned before the differences between the PDC and the BDO in darts.. Two organisations in the same 'sport'... The result? One very, very successful, and the other woefully inadequate trying desperately to keep up, and failing miserably.. Speedway on any given meeting in the Premiership must pay out for 14 riders around £15,000 (or maybe even more?)... Not bad 'prize money' for a very small minority sport. Figures that, I suggest, would surprise many non Speedway followers if they were informed of it.... Therefore, how about a different spin on this £15,000..? Change the word 'wages' and replace it with 'Prize Money', with cheques being given post match to the team captains during an interview... 5 man teams.... A top League of 12 clubs, therefore 60 riders needed.. £15,000 up for grabs EVERY meeting... £10,000 to the winner, £5,000 to the loser... Home and Away twice would deliver 44 matches per team ex play offs.. Let's use a utopian vision and say every home team wins every match.... That would mean over 44 matches, each club would have 'won' £330,000 (£220,000 at home and £110,000 away) with each rider therefore averaging £1500 per meeting, meaning the average rider would earn £66,000 per year, ex play offs.. The reality will be of course some riders will earn more as their deals are better and some will earn less, as will the Clubs as there are bound to be away wins, however... After VAT, at £15 a pop, a 1500 crowd would deliver £18,000... Leaving £3,000 to pay the rent and operating costs (supplemented hopefully by Sponsorship, and profit if applicable on Car Park fees, bar take and programmes sales)... The standard for me would be teams made up at a level of Two current Premiership Heat Leaders. Two Championship Heat Leaders and a Championship Second String making up the fifth man.. Five man teams would also give a surplus of riders to cover short term and long term absences without the need for Gue.. Gu.. G (I can't even type it), and negate rider replacement... The overall 'Prize Fund' (ex play offs) from a total of 264 matches would be an incredible £3,960,000!! With the obvious proviso being of course, could you get 1500 to watch a sport that was now ran with credibilty, with similar standard teams, on nights when crowds could be best generated? I reckon you should be able to sell any Sport that offers a 'Prize Fund' of nearly £4M (not including play offs) to any prospective Sponsor or Media outlet as a very credible and popular Sport! And the beauty of course is clubs are paying this kind of money out every night now but without anyone knowing it, and gaining any publicity for themselves by doing it.. Could it work? Who knows, maybe they could get BT onside to show every team once at home and they match the 'Prize Fund' for that meeting meaning £30,000 on offer that night? British Speedway pays out literally MILLIONS of pounds to riders each season... SO. SHOUT ABOUT IT. LET THE BRITISH PUBLIC KNOW!!! And maybe, just maybe, they will start to get interested? (Or at worse, CURIOUS)...
    2 points
  23. not directed at you city rebel....just wanted to get in on a sky comment i remember when sky used to sponsor ./ pay clubs in premier league,...and the amount of slagging off they got on the speedway forums, like how they were doing it all wrong,...how they had dictated the league, meetings only on cos the cameras were there etc,..could be one of the reasons they pulled out,..so when B.T. pull their plug. is that mission accomplished from the dissatisfied ,who are looking for a scapegoat...not all riders can make a living as a rider...years ago (1970s)most had a day job esp if starting out as a rider, maybe needs to be like that again with a re structure...fixed race nights is just another nail ect
    2 points
  24. Only got to look with my eyes old son at the TV pictures, you dont have to be Einstien to work it out near as damit.. As i said , pull the wool over somebody else's eyes, you'l have to get up real early to fool me..
    1 point
  25. I'm beginning to think that Jenga and Steve Whitehead are one and the same!
    1 point
  26. Looks like you been done up like a kipper jenga.
    1 point
  27. You are correct, but I bet in this league we are one of the higher payers. I'm sure as an ex rider Chris does all he can to pay as prompt as he can and at reasonable amount.
    1 point
  28. Another trying to rewrite what he has already boasted on here. You thought speedway was good enough when you got in free, but decided to leave it when you are asked to pay. Some speedway fan you are, only interested in a freebee and not paying your way but the sport was good enough for free. Another free loader.
    1 point
  29. Thanks, I get it now :-)
    1 point
  30. Linus riding far better than Grazonek. Nicholls certainly strengthens Belle Vue at Poole. A fixture. Rohan Tungate- R, 2, 0, 1=3 A fixture. 5. Scott Nicholls 3, 3, 2, 3, 2' = 13+1 Swings the balance to Belle Vue.
    1 point
  31. I think some people are confusing Rye House with Belle Vue on here. The 1500 crowd figure was posted in relation to Belle Vue. The 400 figure was posted in relation to Rye House.
    1 point
  32. Just been starting some threads on Polish individual meetings and thought i would flag up this possible trip to see these 3 meetings. Friday 3rd August Polish U21 final(MIMP) at the best racetrack in Poland Czestochowa. Saturday 4th August Polish final (IMP) at Leszno Sunday 5th August Polish Extraleague riders final(IMME) at Gdansk Plenty of miles between the venues but it`s not often one can see 3 meetings of this quality in 1 weekend.
    1 point
  33. Danyon Hume suffered no broken bones in last night’s crash at Cradley. However he is battered and bruised (understandably), and will miss Sunday’s National Trophy trip to Buxton.
    1 point
  34. Terrible crash involving Chris and Danyon. Thank God for air fences! Shanes and Bacon were a class apart last night (and not a Bacon roll in sight!). Great to see the likes of Drew, Jason, Kyle and Leon developing week by week. They all have great futures. I think Monmore is just too tight for Leon at the moment but he'll adjust to that soon enough. There may still be something to ride for at Perry Barr but it will be a patched up team with guests for our guests. The support is clearly still there for a full season. Its a shame that Ladbrokes don't want to play ball on two race nights.
    1 point
  35. I would assume if Esbjerg have named him(which they have) he is riding for them.
    1 point
  36. It's very hard fathom track grading and watering (or lack of it ) during a meeting,it's just a tractor racing demo at some tracks,like you say they seldom bring any dirt back on to the racing line( riders would complain no doubt).Armadale is an exception to this IMO they keep the grading and watering perfect IMO .Never Mind the fans as long as the riders are happy seems be the Motto.
    1 point
  37. Always next year......
    1 point
  38. Isn't it nice to see the children playing so nicely together !!!
    1 point
  39. Hard to say with any accuracy but I think crowds at Leicester look to be pretty much at last years levels, if not actually a little better
    1 point
  40. At least I got the score right, just not in the right order. Good fightback and really thought we could nick it in the last heat. Another away point to add to the tally I guess.
    1 point
  41. Many years back I appeared before the National League/Division 2 BSPA Management Committee to propose a scheme to indeed take broadcasting 'in-house' and produce programmes for sale to the network. The response was "But we don't know how to do it". I'd rather hoped they'd got the point that they'd need to hire someone who did..... I doubt very much whether the attitude has changed. It would be interesting to know how Sweden is coping with the lack of a TV deal this year. They have a deal to sell matches to Poland and Britain with the Swedish (and international) markets covered by pay per view. One small point that is ignored by most BSF people, probably because of its subtlety, is how promotion of speedway on BT Sport treats it as a major sport, slotting in promos alongside their European football and Premier League matches and their Rugby, either sharing ad breaks or being promoted in the ad breaks of those matches. For example, during the Champions League Final, watched by about 3 million people, a record for pay-TV, there was at least one promo for the Rye House v King's Lynn match the following Monday. Just as you can have guilt by association so you can have credit by association. Anyone watching BT Sport's premium events would have no doubt that they covered speedway and see promos that made it look like one of their top sports.Of course you could pay for such publicity - if you could afford it. The last time I tried to explain this one BSF charmer responded "Well it was a crap meeting" which does rather sum up the BSF and perhaps speedway as a whole. Unless something gives direct cash in the hand its benefits are too hard to understand.
    1 point
  42. From people who attended the meeting I've heard nothing but good things so well done to all at Redcar.
    1 point
  43. Was a great trip for the boys with a team Gb top three on the day Luke Harrison won the final but Sam Mcgurk won the meeting on the points system. 1st Sam McGurk 2nd Luke Harrison 3rd Harry Mcgurk, Freddie Fox Barron who was competing for the first time abroad came a respectable 7th.
    1 point
  44. Yahoo! It's July and time for the stadium to be dropped into place with all sections interlocked. Are all of the parts on site?
    1 point
  45. Would just like to add my congratulations to Redcar for their staging of the fours considering was the first time the promotion had put on such a major event from a spectators point of view it all seemed to go very smoothly and Redcar have silenced any critics how said the event would be a flop because of the move from its traditional home. With BSPA vice chairman Rob Godfrey stating in the program that in future they intend to move some major events around year on year I can't see Redcar getting the event next year ( Though in my opinion they put up a good argument they should) the Redcar promotion have set the bar very high for who ever does host the fours next year
    1 point
  46. Yes. The only way I was able to stick with Horsens to the end was to half-watch it on the lap top and have Uraguay-Portugal on the main TV. I'm not a big football fan and even with an obviously-likely British winner in Denmark I really couldnt give it my full attention. No idea what KT/NP said this time - or this year years awaful interviewer - as the sound was down. It would be a difficult sell for BSI to make to advertisers if that is how people were to watch it.
    1 point
  47. While the promotion probably shouldn't have taken the steps that it did, if you are a pillock on a public forum on a daily basis you are eventually going to get some kind of comeback.
    1 point
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