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I have no sympathy whatsoever for Richie Worrall. The man is very fond of using social media to have a go other riders, fans, tracks and other teams. Nothing wrong with been outspoken, but if you live by the sword you die by the sword.

Well Done to all at Redcar - what a superb event, without doubt the best organised fours in recent years! Even with the difficulties caused by scorching sun and a drying wind the track produced it's usual top class racing - full marks to the track staff who were fighting the dust all day (and mostly winning). Note to other promotions - fans are happy to watch tractors going round when they know it is only going to enhance their enjoyment, both from a racing and comfort aspect, which is exactly what happened on Sunday, everyone could see the time taken was making necessary improvements and accepted it! No doubt the Scottish fans were delighted to get home at a reasonable time this year, highlighting the benefits of having the event more central (for the Championship) If Redcar want the event next year they have my vote!

With respect, who cares what the f you say. You've been a member for 13 years and only just piped up recently...you aren't Subedei are you ? #c*t

My opinion sunshine .but then you dont like other peoples opinion

If speedway went in house that’s pretty much where it will stay, only current fans would get to see it and personally I wouldn’t purchase it, I can see a tiny financial benifit for speedway itself but no sponsor in their right mind would be interested as it has no audience, I do think BT is selling us a bit short with the money but that’s totally our own fault, BT deal in millions v speedway deal in peanuts, no wonder who the winner is there, we have the perfect platform and get decent viewing figures but we can’t get our own house in order, we need to turn the viewing figures into punters on the terraces and we will never do that with in house filming, we have to be out there in the big wide world

GOOD NEWSDanyon Hume suffered no broken bones in last night’s crash at Cradley. However he is battered and bruised (understandably), and will miss Sunday’s National Trophy trip to Buxton.Also wishing Cradley’s Chris Widman a speedy recovery who suffered a fractured wrist.

Is that a new saying Still, it could be worse, the panthers could be having a good season and picking up more silverware.............mmmmmm, hang on a moment.

As you would expect for such a fantastic stadium, the costs are significantly higher than most/all other stadiums in the country so I don't think it shows poor management to be losing money. What they need to do is to find ways of getting more people there and other revenue streams.

Crikey, that's a name from the past - remember him well, for all the wrong reasons!

Poor decision by Promotion to single out an individual IMO.Maybe an article saying they are Disapointed with comments would have been enough.Certain Promotions make remarks in their programmes regarding forums but they are entitled to,but it could be taken as as bit underhand but it's their way of telling you who is running the show lump it or leave it.Fair enough, if fans take offence they may stay at home,that's the chance they take.

I can't even begin to think how that would work.

And on what do you base your opinion? So far as I know you have not yet visited the NSS so it can't be from having attended every week. The promotion are trying many ideas to increase crowds, a new social media campaign is going to start soon and running the Colts with an entrance fee of £10 and kids under 18 free is seen as a way of attracting new and younger fans. The hope before FNR was to increase the 1500 average last year year towards 2000 this year but the enforced Monday nights have had the opposite effect. I would estimate our average crowds this year at more than 1000, maybe 1200 with the bank holiday meetings.

Not sure why there was need for any apology really. Does anybody take Jenga seriously.

But some critics have the nerve to make statements like that, when they were asked to pay to get in and they walked away to then be a permanent critic. Didn't you.

What does it cost . lets start on a meeting draw thats 45 points per team. Across the board you would say 100 per point so thats £4500.00, the there are tyres, matchday staff including doctor, ambulance services, paramedic, starting marshal's pit marshall, inspector referee and timekeeper turnstile operators.track staff, tractor driver, fuel, et al. Now if this is my business i have to pay myself and any others, marketing, stadium upkeep or lease, power, maintenance the list goes on. I have only a window of around 20 meetings at home and i still have to pay the riders for away meetings the figures prove difficult reading if you think that a few years ago i was getting 80-90k from tv revenue and now I get 14. Would riders go part time some may but if they get injured how will this affect the day job and could they expect their employer to give them the time off to travel from the North to say poole. I dont have the answers but I do know that big big changes to the sport are due and one I would like is a management committee that does not have its head so far in the sand and so disconnected with its revenue paying customers.

A very well reasoned reply to my thoughts on Richie and very much appreciated and a good insight from a behind the scenes point. Much more balanced than the call yourself a Glasgow Supporter pish, do this and say that etc etc. Cheers for the insight .

Comedy gold you can't even spell intellectual !!

Who are you to judge me or anybody, I am expressing an opinion on a rider that has massively underperformed for the team I have supported since the 70s, there are split opinions on Richie on here and in general I would imagine. But don't come on here albeit I am guessing you are connected in some way and preach to me or any other GLASGOW SUPPORTER on our thoughts on anything really. So yes I will call myself a Glasgow Supporter ARE YOU ?.

Best track prep arrangement was at Rye House probably about 2003/4 when Len Silver employed two small tractors, one with a small bowser on the back and the other one with a flat grader. After each heat, and whilst the riders were leaving the circuit on bend 1, the two tractors come out of bend 4 centre green and did a quick couple of circuits just before the next race riders were coming out onto the track. They took no extra time, but the condition and preparation was the same for all 15 heats. Only time I have ever seen such good preparation. Unfortunately it probably can't be done now, as the tractors were ready on the centre green area and also entered the track whilst riders were either leaving or entering the circuit. "Elf and Safety you know.

Time to get your hearing tested then. It was probably Redcar's second biggest gate ever after the fantastic crowd on their opening night. Well supported by mainly local Northern clubs,

Never spoken to Starman and it isn't on my to do list!!

My first visit to Redcar and very impressed with the racing on the track. Plenty of food and drink outlets, plenty of toilets, meant no races missed due to standing in queues (please take note Somerset). Decent prices and not over charged like some venues. Sadly the days are gone where you need to accommodate 4-5,000 fans for a shared event, so no excuses why the likes of Redcar shouldn't host events like this. Dust yes, but unavoidable, given the temperatures. Overall, would say well done Redcar, a lot of other clubs and venues would do well to look and learn.

I wasn’t thrilled that Redcar we’re hosting this as I thought Peterborough with its open grass spaces was better equipped, but Redcar Speedway did a fine job. One criticism would be the lack of speakers on the back straight. Very difficult to hear team changes and line ups. I appreciate that the back straight isn’t normally open to spectators, but surely some temporary speakers on the centre green could’ve been arranged? Food and drink a bargain compared to rip off EOES and I think parking may have been free, compared to the Showgrounds £2. The dust was unavoidable on such a hot day.

So much of what generates a crowd these days is down to great marketing and hype.. I have mentioned before the differences between the PDC and the BDO in darts.. Two organisations in the same 'sport'... The result? One very, very successful, and the other woefully inadequate trying desperately to keep up, and failing miserably.. Speedway on any given meeting in the Premiership must pay out for 14 riders around £15,000 (or maybe even more?)... Not bad 'prize money' for a very small minority sport. Figures that, I suggest, would surprise many non Speedway followers if they were informed of it.... Therefore, how about a different spin on this £15,000..? Change the word 'wages' and replace it with 'Prize Money', with cheques being given post match to the team captains during an interview... 5 man teams.... A top League of 12 clubs, therefore 60 riders needed.. £15,000 up for grabs EVERY meeting... £10,000 to the winner, £5,000 to the loser... Home and Away twice would deliver 44 matches per team ex play offs.. Let's use a utopian vision and say every home team wins every match.... That would mean over 44 matches, each club would have 'won' £330,000 (£220,000 at home and £110,000 away) with each rider therefore averaging £1500 per meeting, meaning the average rider would earn £66,000 per year, ex play offs.. The reality will be of course some riders will earn more as their deals are better and some will earn less, as will the Clubs as there are bound to be away wins, however... After VAT, at £15 a pop, a 1500 crowd would deliver £18,000... Leaving £3,000 to pay the rent and operating costs (supplemented hopefully by Sponsorship, and profit if applicable on Car Park fees, bar take and programmes sales)... The standard for me would be teams made up at a level of Two current Premiership Heat Leaders. Two Championship Heat Leaders and a Championship Second String making up the fifth man.. Five man teams would also give a surplus of riders to cover short term and long term absences without the need for Gue.. Gu.. G (I can't even type it), and negate rider replacement... The overall 'Prize Fund' (ex play offs) from a total of 264 matches would be an incredible £3,960,000!! With the obvious proviso being of course, could you get 1500 to watch a sport that was now ran with credibilty, with similar standard teams, on nights when crowds could be best generated? I reckon you should be able to sell any Sport that offers a 'Prize Fund' of nearly £4M (not including play offs) to any prospective Sponsor or Media outlet as a very credible and popular Sport! And the beauty of course is clubs are paying this kind of money out every night now but without anyone knowing it, and gaining any publicity for themselves by doing it.. Could it work? Who knows, maybe they could get BT onside to show every team once at home and they match the 'Prize Fund' for that meeting meaning £30,000 on offer that night? British Speedway pays out literally MILLIONS of pounds to riders each season... SO. SHOUT ABOUT IT. LET THE BRITISH PUBLIC KNOW!!! And maybe, just maybe, they will start to get interested? (Or at worse, CURIOUS)...

Nice short trip for the Berwick bus lol. Not easy to control the dust in such a heat but there was no lack of effort in trying to. £2-50 for a can of Stella no complaints from the Berwick fans haha for all the people that questioned why Redcar got the meeting the answer was there yesterday. Well done to all involved proper speedway how it used to be when you go home with a black face and you have had a great day.

not directed at you city rebel....just wanted to get in on a sky comment i remember when sky used to sponsor ./ pay clubs in premier league,...and the amount of slagging off they got on the speedway forums, like how they were doing it all wrong,...how they had dictated the league, meetings only on cos the cameras were there etc,..could be one of the reasons they pulled out,..so when B.T. pull their plug. is that mission accomplished from the dissatisfied ,who are looking for a scapegoat...not all riders can make a living as a rider...years ago (1970s)most had a day job esp if starting out as a rider, maybe needs to be like that again with a re structure...fixed race nights is just another nail ect

Trust me streaming of meetings in the UK has been looked into before by Sky and the current infrastructure at UK stadiums is not up to the standards required. i remember a run in to the play offs one season and I think the main match was at Poole but Coventry had a key meeting and wanted to feed in some races and interviews we had to use an IPad and send the footage as a file rather than live. Also some stadiums won’t co operate in the last season on Sky at Poole second play off semi kept getting postponed but Sky wanted to feature races on Sky sports news but stadium would allow any internet use so had to send satellite uplink truck just for a 1 camera production. I know from speaking to colleagues at BT that relationships are no better for TV meetings with clubs refusing OB companies and TV crew use of their Wi-fi even just to send emails and internet/social media hence BT guys have 4G mifi devices and use personal phones. To run a paid for streaming service is not as easy as just using a domestic fibre broadband connection it would need to be a dedicated leased line with 1-1 contention and say 100Mbps each direction will be looking at around £800-1000 a month that is then needed at each track. Even the ATR betting trial was costing them £250 a week plus over 40k setup fee just for connectivity. Interestingly most of this kit is still at the stadiums so could be used again. You can go along the 4G bonded route where broadcasting kit sends the pictures over 4G mobile networks using 8-12 sims combined but this is prone to buffering and mobile networks have started traffic managing this traffic due to the strain it puts on their core network The best hope is 5G mobile this may bring the cost down and have the capacity to do this but is a few years away yet. You could get a 2 camera OB with satellite uplink for £500 a meeting but still need the server and backhaul to get pictures on the internet for paid site or can go free route with You Tube

Looks like you been done up like a kipper jenga.

You are correct, but I bet in this league we are one of the higher payers. I'm sure as an ex rider Chris does all he can to pay as prompt as he can and at reasonable amount.

All we’ve gathered from this is that Richie Worrall isn’t very well liked for several different reasons, what a shame.

Another trying to rewrite what he has already boasted on here. You thought speedway was good enough when you got in free, but decided to leave it when you are asked to pay. Some speedway fan you are, only interested in a freebee and not paying your way but the sport was good enough for free. Another free loader.

Well in this case, lets hope so.

Thanks, I get it now :-)

Just been starting some threads on Polish individual meetings and thought i would flag up this possible trip to see these 3 meetings. Friday 3rd August Polish U21 final(MIMP) at the best racetrack in Poland Czestochowa. Saturday 4th August Polish final (IMP) at Leszno Sunday 5th August Polish Extraleague riders final(IMME) at Gdansk Plenty of miles between the venues but it`s not often one can see 3 meetings of this quality in 1 weekend.

I’m still not getting your point. A company might pay £50k to advertise on TV but that money goes to BT, not the speedway clubs. None of the advertising on televised speedway benefits the sport, it benefits the TV companies! The clubs do not benefit at all, in fact they lose out because more existing fans stay away from the televised matches than new fans drawn in by the publicity.

Sun Off's.

Perhaps it was just last night then... I'm normally sat on my perch on the first bend

It's very hard fathom track grading and watering (or lack of it ) during a meeting,it's just a tractor racing demo at some tracks,like you say they seldom bring any dirt back on to the racing line( riders would complain no doubt).Armadale is an exception to this IMO they keep the grading and watering perfect IMO .Never Mind the fans as long as the riders are happy seems be the Motto.

That's funny you should say that because I have watched countless meetings in foreign countries where they just water the whole of the track inside and out, yes it's tricky for a race or two but that's down to the rider to handle. It's only in this country that the watering of the inside line doesn't happen... I wonder if you could equate people going home covered in dust to a lack of attendances?

Rye House has been a weekend track since the birth of speedway, even when Len ran the odd mid week match over the years the crowds were down compared to Saturday nights.

Always next year......

Isn't it nice to see the children playing so nicely together !!!

Pretty sure Nicolai Klindt scored 20 or 21 a couple of years back riding at reserve

At least I got the score right, just not in the right order. Good fightback and really thought we could nick it in the last heat. Another away point to add to the tally I guess.

So that shows with the correct racenight it is viable. All this talk of reducing costs with 35.00 points limits and stuff like that is absolute nonsense.

Hard luck on the lad I do hope it's not too serious, but if you have to bring a new face to replace him perhaps you should take a gamble on Tom Brennan seems to be doing well with Eastbourne and today is his 17th birthday.

Enjoyed that greatly. Great day well done all involved

I think there would be less money coming in from this as most speedway fans are the older generation and what speedway need is the younger ones who are not going to pay £20 a month

Biggest problem is the "unavailability" of good shale. it is available but the quarries that have it will not supply speedway - because that have to many bad debts (non payments) Yet another example how G.B. speedway is in self destruct!