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God this is oh so boring.cant we all just agree mistakes have been made and support the team and promotion in a positive way.

Eat before entering the stadium. Food outlets are rubbish.

Poole have only really given Brits a chance because of the enforced ruling about using them at reserve. Shanes is only really in because his 2 point average fits. Poole have certainly not supported the likes of Howarth and Newman as assets by sacking them. Wolves took a chance on Howarth and are now reaping the benefit with his best ever season at both levels in 2017 and has started 2018 with a top flight paid maximum. I'd rather ALL clubs looked after their Brits to help them progress. Some clubs obviously do so much better than others, Belle Vue another great example.

I think Poole did a great job. We have a lot of foreign riders who are UK rusty in general and just starting to gel as a team. Rome wasn't built in a day. Not sure why some people think that Poles should all be able to perform well instantly at the NSS, just because it's big! I didn't say there was anything wrong with Shanes, other than I don't rate him. Poole have given plenty of Brits a chance. A chance is an opportunity isn't it? Wouldn't you say several years in the team is more than a fair chance? There is a big difference between giving somebody a chance and carrying somebody undeservedly because of their nationality. That would be the very definition of racial discrimination, would it not? You can try and talk Poole down all you like, but your constant babbling on about how sh*t we are won't make it so. It's very odd your obsession with degrading Poole... I've never seen anything like it. You jump on our threads like flies to sh*t. Your posts are so full of biased vitriol and passive aggression that there is a complete lack of respect among any of the members of this forum for you or anything you write.

Unfortunately there seem to be more trolls and wind up merchants on the forum nowadays than genuine posters.....combine that with too many people who can't resist biting at the utter garbage that is posted and its a pretty bad combination.

Rye should have moved back to the middle tier. Saturday night racing with more local derbies is a no brainer really. The team is too old and too expensive, coupled with the awful facilities at hoddesdon, it's a recipe for disaster.

In Poland the tail doesn't wag the dog, unlike in the UK where riders certainly take the pee. Only have to go back to the Holder/Batcholar situation at Kings Lynn v Poole meeting last season. Would those 2 Aussies have tried that on in Poland ? I think not.

Ivan totally changed the fortunes of Newcastle Speedway in the early 60's. He burnt up the Aussies during the winter, and we could not believe that Mike Parker would go for him and get his signature. Not only that, but Ivan asked for and got passages to the UK for him, Raye and the 3 children for which Ivan was forever grateful for. He always respected Parker for it, money was never a problem between them, but his desire to reach the top split them apart. After his first WC with the Diamonds, there followed moves to Belle Vue, Exeter and of course Hull. He never forgot the Diamonds, getting his main mechanic Gordon Stobbs from us and his wife Margaret, who were with Ivan and Raye for the rest of his career and afterwards. He always showed his interest in fellow Kiwi's, visiting us every year especially when Mark Thorpe and David Bargh were riding for us. He usually came up unannounced when he came over for the WSRA dinners, appearing after the start and disappearing before our meeting finished after seeing everyone he knew. In 2010 he came up for his book signing, and I asked him and Gordon if it was possible for Ivan to visit my training school on the Sunday afternoon. He already had 4 events to attend but Gordon said he would do his best. Sure enough, halfway through the session in walks Ivan and Gordon, and he proceeded to give advice and take over the rest of the session. Photos are on the Newcastle Training group Facebook page, as well as some individuals who have posted their photos on their own Facebook pages. The early signs of his illness were there the previous evening, when Raye kept Ivan on script with his great stories. We will never see such a great rider as him again, although Tony Rickardsson came pretty close. RIP IVAN, the rider that changed speedway for the better

Which has been breed by poor promoting and p!$$ poor meeting management. Up to the promotion to turn things around, nobody else.

Just the same at Monmore. Late arrivals at the tapes still gardening while the start er trying to get them to line up. Waste of time changing the rule unless all tracks have a count down clock.

Matej Zagar would cause a division between those who think he's a p***-taking shyster, and those who say he's a p***-taking shyster.

Im not saying Rome was built in a day. Im saying i would have expected the Poles to go better at the NSS then anywhere else. Cant see them doing much on the smaller tracks but i may be wrong. Poole dont really give Brits that much of a chance if you look at the bigger picture and personally i dont see much wrong with Shanes at number 7, he is only expected to get 3 or 4 points a meeting. I havent gone on about how sh.t Poole are and please find where i have degraded them? Poole quite clearly have the best 1-7 on paper but titles are not won on paper. Before a wheel was turned i said the Poles may be flaky.....Kurtz needs to step up more (which i think he will) Linus will not be as good as Hans......and there is doubts over Holder. I agreed Poole have the best team but if im not allowed to say i felt doubts over some of the riders then whats the point of the forum? I feel riders have to perform to their ability then Poole will win the league but for me there are question marks I would have expected Poole to do better last night on a track the riders should go well at. If they cant beat a patched up Belle Vue on a track they should enjoy , then i dont hold out much hope for them going to places like Wolves where you would expect Poole to struggle. Im sorry if your to precious to accept other peoples opinions and feel that it has to be anti Poole if someone doesnt say they will walk the league

After a decent, speedily run and reasonably well attended (first) meeting on Saturday against the Monarchs, we are now faced with 3 weeks without any speedway. In the present climate where minority sports are struggling to attract spectators we should be doing all we can to encourage more to attend and to maintain the interest of those who do.These long gaps between meetings can only do the opposite. The problems seem to be the same as we have in society generally it is greed and self interest, without seeing the big picture. If a meeting is called off or needs rescheduling it should be done with the good of speedway and the speedway supporter in mind first and foremost. Looking at Glasgow's fixtures it appears as if they could squeeze a meeting in against us within the next week or two, so why not try to get it on. So what if Bomber or whoever is unavailable - how many times have the Comets raced without a number 1. You never know the idea of helping each other out may catch on!!!! Thought I would create a change of subject, one with no mention of food. Doh....I've mentioned food.

Its been a long wait, so hopefully a decent crowd will flock into Saddlebow Road and see all the changes that Robin Brundle and Buster have put in place. I really hope they have turned it around and people enjoy the whole experience ( win lose or draw).

Lucy is available if he really has to have one. Keen Bees fans for all of her 8 years but won't have much input as she's usually asleep.

Don't disagree but sooner or later people have to stop raking over old ground, wipe the slate clean and allow the club to make amends though. I was trying to lighten the mood a bit really as it was all becoming a bit depressing. Hopefully this time on Thursday the comments will all be upbeat because at the end of the day we all want the club to succeed and to be a positive place to go don't we?

You to really don't get it do you !! you might have gave time and money over the years but Workington Speedway needs all the support now to keep us running. Teething problems the first week with food/café, but we went and spoke to Steve personally, not hide behind computer names and plaster it all over this Forum over and over and over you're still going on about it We go every week pay our entry money just as you do Scaramanga, oh and run the Workington Speedway Trust , sell programmes, 50/50 tickets, anything we can to help keep our Speedway unlike you that finds every opportunity to come on here and find faults, moan,criticise. You go on any thread on here and you won't find two people like you slagging their speedway/promotion off ...Give it up !!!!!!!

Damn, I was hoping for Ilya Bondarenko, first into turn 1 and last halfway round turn 1!

Unfortunately Rye House are what they look like an ex Coventry Bees retirement home.

I look at it like this. Poole and BV are both good teams and will be in the play-offs. Riders are still sorting stuff out and finding correct set ups. And to all the Poole fans saying we want changes are you nuts??? You have to give people a chance Sundstrom is the 4th guy and so far has paid 9 and paid 7 I don't think that's bad. Woryna seems to be sorting it out just not in heat 1. All the guys are in Poole today and tomorrow so im sure they will sort out everything for Wednesday night. BV Just Fricke, Bewley are just WOW. Sure they will have an off day and hopefully BV have a bit more respect for there team than some Poole fans seem to have and you wont just rip into them.

So it's either Sergei "I'm still riding" Darkin or Henning "Showtime" Bager. Keep on teasing, flagrag

Some close fast racing with a sprinkling of passes, not up to the usual NSS standard but nonetheless good entertainment. Grajczonek and Kildemand the best of the bunch for Poole. The two Poles did enough to show they will outscore their artificial averages. Kurtz and Sundstrom were poor and Shanes had a bad night. But as others have said, it is early days and too much shouldn't be made of one disappointing performance. Bewley was again very impressive, it's difficult to believe that it is only two years since his first competitive race. Fricke continued his good form and Cook was solid. Tungate was poor but did show some signs of improvement in his last two rides. Bjerre did as I expected and had a decent night but Worrall would have scored significantly more. Starke and Grappmaier also scored less than Drozdz and Etheridge did against Swindon. Those claiming we wouldn't be weakened can now see just how wrong they were. Overall, an excellent result for a weakened Aces team against the team expected by many to be dead certs for the title.

A soul destroying, festering sore of a meeting. That one was enough to kill your enthusiasm for a season before it even starts. After watching lots of fast, vibrant, modern speedway from Poland so far this year on the TV, this one was like a trip back in time to the seventies. And Monmore is generally one of the better tracks to visit in the Premiership!!

What a simple and great tribute to the best speedway rider of all time. Sincere condolences to his family R I P Ivan

Jesus Christ 10 heats into the season and the glory supporter wants a change already.

I fail to see why it's any concern as to who is involved because it's Coventry's business - maybe the poster is just setting up a case to get people to have another go about something. The bees are on track and looking good - be nice if people were just satisfied to watch their progress and not pick all the time.

I'll be there mate. As always. Got my shorts and shades ready.

Of course it won't, nor anything remotely close to it because such strong teams aren't allowed in the Championship.... there's a clue for you there. These kind of sweeping statements are often made, but in reality it's nonsense. Think of the strongest Championship team, then compare the two rider for rider. Rye have a Championship 2nd heat leader at reserve. A Championship No 1 at 2nd string.

Likewise when him and Scott Autrey held a series of match races at Paisley in the mid seventies , and he brought his gold bike along too . Arguably the greatest rider ever to take to the shale , its always a sad day whenever a true legend passes away . Remember him too riding with a plaster cast on his right ankle during the 1971 Nordic-British Final at Hampden . Rest in peace Ivan and thanks for the memories .

Always thought Eddie Ingells was a good rider who we should have seen more of.

only rode twice, same as newcastle

Up North somewhere?

For what it’s worth I throughly enjoyed the meeting , winning might have a lot to do with that Fricke looks like a world beater when he’s on form like last night , Bewley looked yet again the great white hope of british Speedway, Tungates struggles continue to be a worry, as for the Poole.... nothing too much to worry about for Pirates fans , they look a very strong side from 1-7 dont think Brady Kurtz will have many nights like last night , fantastic rider, Woryna looks the real deal also , not happy about JG move on Max in heat 15 , could have been nasty that ? all in all a good meeting, plenty of positives for both teams

Of course he would be disappointed but I believe what he is saying is that if someone told him we would be 8 points down with one race to go and we would get a point then that is a bonus and reason to be pleased.

Wow! What a dull match, Somerset were an absolute shower in the first few races. It was long, drawn out, too many restarts, barely any decent racing to make comment on, the track was too dry and it was blummin cold, about as bad as it gets... And then we get Dave Darcy on the PA telling us to stop speculating on who the new signing is going to be!!! If there was something else to talk about then perhaps we would

In Business the thing that brings in you in the least amount profit is given the least amount of time and effort. Understandable I would suggest.

This meeting has been rearranged for Tuesday 24th April - 8pm start

When looking at the team the Rebels have got, they are totally reliant on Doyle. He has to score big for them to be competitive. Last night Leicester were firing on all cylinders and were way too strong. Leicester will have harder nights than this, but well done on a thumping win....

I only got to see him at Oxford (he scored a max) and in 1975 for the diamonds re-opening (beat Jim McMillan 3 times) Luckily got to meet the great man in 2010 and his wife Raye at Brough for his book signing Greatest rider ever RIP Ivan and thoughts with Raye and his children

Cracking start from the team on what could have been a banana skin given lack of practice. It does very much look like Rye are going to struggle away and maybe even at home at times as Nicholls and Harris are only going one way. Brilliant start from Jacob at No 1, I have little doubts about him at home. If he can take that confidence to the away tracks maybe he can surprise me. I hope he does! Great to see Kyle Howarth get a maximum. This is one rider I will hold my hand up and say I got it wrong. I wasn't impressed at all when we originally signed him as I didn't think he'd ever adapt to Monmore. He most certainly has and I love to watch him race when I get the chance. Promising looking start from Ashley Morris too.

Gavan why don't you shut the f***k up , they have only had two matches, that's 4 points, come to think of it how many have Ipswich, if I was you I would be more worried about them

That has gone unnoticed but not by me. Dirty move that. Totally unlike josh.

Great result for the injury hit Aces. Surprised at that result. No surprise that the Pirates grabbed a point tho. Not many teams will send the Pirates home pointless.

First trip to Newcastle and was a bit shocked was expecting a bit of a dump the way some go on but i thought it seemed a decent set up. Track was a bit patchy to start but first meeting and dodgy weather so wasn't too bad. A few decent races, I'd be happy enough with it being our track

Scaramanga if you would care to crawl out from under your stone then I will willingly talk to you. You cant hide beyond a screen name typing vitriolic comments then complain we cant be talked to. Why cant you put your efforts into offering to help us or doing something constructive for the speedway as others do?

From where do you get your bum information?

The lack of regular meetings is certainly not helping the team, but that's what the championship promotors wanted. Hopefully they will realise their error and go back to home and away twice next season.

Like you say no one can judge any track at the moment so when conditions improve everyone will see how the remedial work handles and if it improves the awful bumps. I hope it does as I used to rate the Poole track highly.

I blame Corbyn for this bl**dy weather.