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“ I don’t let BSF run my life” says the man who spends half his life trolling in it. Were you there last night ? ( I was). Did you speak to any of the riders or managers before or after the meeting ( I did) have you read Rosco’s statement? No ? You made up your mind because of something you read on the internet. Riders and managers had the chance to test or protest before heat 1 and no one chose to. They decided to get on with it for the fans who actually get off their ârses and go to meetings rather than the numpties who sit at home criticising. It didn’t work out and unfortunately some riders got injured. Still, some bloke who’s never been on a bike saw something on the internet and is more informed than anyone who was there. Thsts ok then. Sorry. You’re completely right.10 points
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Belle Vue screen the post meeting Aces and Colts press conferences live on Facebook. It gives fans who don't want to or, can't stay after the meetings the opportunity to watch them whenever it suits them.4 points
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SWINDON boss Alun Rossiter has hit back at the critics who have slammed the club for the events of the abandoned clash with Leicester. Social media went into overdrive with various characters voicing their opinions, many of whom weren’t in attendance and aware of the full facts. Rossiter said: “Before I go any further I just want to repeat this – everyone at Swindon Speedway would like to offer our sincere best wishes to Martin Vaculik for a quick recovery from his injury. Nobody wants to see that. Similarly Michael Palm Toft. “There are certain issues which need addressing here and I’m keen to point out the facts. Not just opinion gleaned from reading a timeline, facts. “I was stood with two top Leicester riders just minutes before the first race and at no time did either rider express any concerns about the track to me. “At no time did any rider express any concerns about the track to the referee, Chris Durno. “On the contrary, we were complimented for the way the track appeared after all the rain it had taken. “The biggest concern was the mist and the risk to visibility – not the track. “Our clerk of the course told riders we weren’t doing a normal parade but they were free to go out and try a lap on the track – nobody took him up on this offer. “Nobody was forced out there, nobody was told they must go out and ride, nobody said they wouldn’t, the consensus was simply get on with it. “I’ve read a broad spectrum of opinions and the truth is hindsight is a wonderful thing. Some riders involved have been on social media saying certain things, well why didn’t they say it to the referee, clerk of the course or myself? Anybody who knows me knows I’ll always listen, I’m a former rider remember, I want safety for the boys. “I feel for the injured boys and feel for our fans and sponsors, it was a bad night and the weather has made this the worst possible start for the sport across the country. Speedway in the UK is in desperate need of a break in the weather, more than ever before.”4 points
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It' amazing ..after all these years and all the stupid names he still gets loads of people to bite .I bet he even he can't believe it .unreal3 points
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One very ignorant comment regarding the current weather circumstances, then a much more realistic one. When will loads of speedway supporters who've followed the sport for donkey years finally grasp the basic fact that if the temperature's struggling to ever get above 11 or 12 celsius on a still day or (at a pinch) a blustery 9 or 10 celsius, it doesn't matter how gloriously dry or even sunny the weather is on the day, an already saturated track is going to be a devil of a job to dry out satisfactorily for a proper speedway meeting to be held ? !! I've been following the sport since 1988 and I can't recall any spring like the one we're currently enduring with the weather since late-February so overwhelmingly dominated by chilly winds from the east and north-east instead of the usual majority of helpful warmer breezes from the west and south-west. There are large parts of northern England and eastern Scotland where there's barely been any single day yet in 2018 reaching that all-important 12 degrees, albeit that should change tomorrow and Sunday judging by this weekend's forecast. Contrast that with 2012 when there was almost continuous 16-celsius sunshine for the last fortnight of March when a house I was having decorated was done in record time because the paint was drying beautifully quickly - it would probably have taken twice as long if that same work was being done now. Once we're consistently into mid-teens weather, then of course dry conditions on the day of the meeting should be enough to ensure it goes ahead even after a day or two of rain beforehand because there's enough warmth in the air for Mother Nature to be truly helpful. But that's nowhere near what we've got now or, even more importantly have had relentlessly for the past 6 weeks or so (the first and most vicious wave of the Beast From the East reached our shores on the evening of Tuesday 27th February). If Rob Godfrey and his crew at Scunthorpe, well known for running in just about any borderline conditions, can deem this evening's action worth a call-off with several hours to go, that should be seriously appreciated and understood rather than stupidly criticised.3 points
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You have “evidence”, I have a son rode in the heat. I think I know who’s opinion I can count on. bye loser3 points
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Conditions last night were very deceiving. Everyone was talking about the possibility of fog worsening during the evening but there was a lot of moisture in the air, my jacket was soaked as if it had been pouring with rain, and obviously the track surface was effected accordingly. Leicester had experienced similar conditions at Rye House the previous evening, where visibility was a huge issue. As for the first race carnage, it looked like two separate incidents to me, more a case of everyone hitting the same piece of track a little too fast for the unexpected conditions. A brief practice 15 minutes before start time in such situations gets a big YES from me...3 points
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Living in Sheffield over the past three or four days has been like living in permanent low lying cloud. The air is saturated with moisture. The ground is saturated. And yet the promoters are to blame for this? Words fail me.3 points
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Think it’s more to do with getting rid of the dead wood that’s been distracting him for a couple of years2 points
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People are still biting......this unbelievable. Stop talking to him and he’ll only have himself to play with.2 points
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I'm not playing any games. Just telling people that the Swindon statement is false which it is.2 points
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A riders father has told you what is what. He was there, in the pits with the riders. I think his word is more conclusive than a twitter remark after the event.2 points
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Fixed racenights will reduce guests for double-up riders, but guests for injury victims will always be part of our sport....2 points
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The only thing that’s important in all of this is surely that a rider has been seriously injured. Plus another rider pretty bruised up too. And perhaps it’s lucky it wasn’t worse than that. All this ‘my dads bigger than your dad’ stuff on here is cringing and missing the point. British speedway needs to learn from this..2 points
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I was down at the pits at 7 o'clock and the mist and the moisture in the air was really deceiving, the track looked decent for the amount of rain it had taken in the week.I was more worried about the fog than the track but heat 1 was bad but it could of been a lot worse i wish Martin a speedy recovery and hope he gets back soon.One thing that did hit home to me last night was how much the riders risk everytime to race to entertain us all2 points
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For those of us that were there, that's exactly how it seemed. Unfortunately, the blame culture in and around speedway leads to all and sundry weighing in without full facts.2 points
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Again. Interviewed AFTER the event you tool. 14 riders before the event were quite happy for it to go ahead. Two have said after that it probably shouldn’t have. That doesnt make you right, it makes you either a troll or a complete twunt. Before the the event I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. But with hindsight i’m going with both actually. See he what I did there ?2 points
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I would have thought it’s easy, K Bjerre he only lives an hour away, big mate of Hans as well2 points
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Yes. AFTER the event. Willa grown up please explain the concept of hindsight to MFF and put him to bed for his afternoon nap ?2 points
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I'm right end of story. Not even debateable. You lot can make as many excuses as you like it doesn't bother me.2 points
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I think it's time to stop apportioning blame, riders got injured, no one wants to see that. Alan Rossiter has put out a statement on the Swindon website and apparently riders were offered the chance to try out the track by the Clerk of the Course but no one took up the offer. What we should be doing is wishing the injured riders a speedy recovery and hope this awful weather that is causing havoc to the sport we love improves so that riders, promoters and referees don't get put in the no win situation they were in last night.2 points
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Or as in Poland, in discussion with riders the manager selects 2 riders to have 2x 1 minute practice laps. Pit gate opens, 2 riders from away team take to track. One minute practice then red flag out, riders return to the pits and home team 2 riders go out. This is then repeated with same 4 riders. Not rocket science2 points
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Looking forward to this one. Always had a soft spot for Workington as my 'second team' since my early speedway days watching Schott/Carr vs Stonehewer/Stead at Armadale and Derwent Park. Fancy Edinburgh to win this but it will be closer than most expect I think. Max looked impressive last week, hopefully he can carry that on tonight but it will be a real test against a solid Comets side. Erik has had a scorching start to the season and we will need him and Ricky to be on form against potentially weaker Workington heat leaders. A lot also depends on the return from BWD at #7, hopefully Josh can keep him subdued. I'll go Edinburgh 49-41 Workington2 points
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The track "looked good" last night at Swindon too, look what happened. Buster will be in his ivory tower with a bit of smugness on his face. I personally hope that this way of thinking continues, a bit of trust is being regained just by correctly calling these meetings off. Everybody is fed up with the "track conditions are perfect, look forward to a great night of Speedway" only to watch Buster blading the track for a couple of hours.2 points
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Rain due to go off by noon latest then receeding chance of rain with cloud all day. Lets avoid another late call off ....please. Think we should sign Noah and his crew at this stage...I`m getting webbed feet. Makes you wonder why water is not our No1 export.......2 points
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Regarding the suggestion that riders should be allowed to "test ride" the track before the meeting - on many occasions in televised meetings one hears the comment "the track will come to the riders later in the meeting" Therefore, wouldn't everyone - riders, mechanics and spectators - benefit from there being a practice session immediately prior to every meeting? The bikes would be correctly set up, track conditions and (to the visiting riders) size and shape would be experienced, and the track itself would "come to the riders" earlier in the meeting - all this would improve the spectators' experience2 points
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Hes the biggest joke on here. Changed teams once and never attends a live meeting. As biased as Shovlar and Starman are at least they go and support the team.2 points
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Or some fans have got it wrong, and forgot to look outside on speedway nights and blaming the wrong people for the rain.2 points
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Both teams agreed to give it a try. If the riders wanted to give it a go who’s in the better position to judge, the guys putting their neck on the line of some bloke on the internet who’s probably never swung his leg over a bike?2 points
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Let's Just wish all the fallen riders good health or speedy recovery, all this constant bickering needs to be toned down, too many keyboard warriors on here spoiling for an argument........pathetic.2 points
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No one is interested in anything you have to say ! So, why don't you quietly disappear and crawl back up your hole1 point
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The next meeting on 28.07 featured the much awaited match race challenge between Lees and Jervis.Again a very good crowd of 16,000 turned up.In the first heat of the best of 3,Lees made a great start and after the first lap was 50m in front and held that lead in the next lap,but Jervis was making up ground and into the last turn was only about a metre behind Lees,but couldn't get past him.Lees was greeted with hearty applause from the crowd.The second heat had to be put back until after the break as Jervis had problems with his bike and had to repare the cylinder head.Before the next heat Jervis made a test lap to see that everything was ok,then showed he was happy.Jervis led from start to finish,but was chased all the way by Lees who was trying everything he could to get past,to no avail.The times for both heats showed how good the riders were going.75.6 for Lees and 76.0 for Jervis!! They met again before the scheduled decider in one of the finals over 3 laps.Lees had beaten Morian Hansen in his quali,Jervis on the other hand surprising finished behind Danish rider Walter Ryle.In the final Jervis upped his game and came out of the first bend in front,but Lees was not giving up and managed to pass Arthur on the home straight of the first lap.It was again looking like a super race,but then Lees lost control on the bend and had what looked like a very nasty crash and Jervis went on to win the final followed by Morian Hansen.It was announced that Lees was only shaken up and a little while later it was relayed to the crowd that he had recovered enough to have a cigarette!!! He couldn't come out for the match race decider though,and it was announced that they would hold a new one at the next meeting....... Unfortunately when the next meeting was held Ginger hadn't recovered from his fall and the new world record holder,Jervis was having his last meeting for while at least,as he was being recalled to England so they could parade him to the fans.The Golden Helmet had helped make Wednesdays the main race night and 15,000 turned up.After a couple of relatively low turnouts things were looking so good that Motordrom A.G were now planning to run 3 meetings a week!!!Wednesday-Friday and Sunday..... The heats saw the first appearance of a german rider from outside of Hamburg.Franz Heck from Berlin,who it was said had been training on the Berlin Dirt Track!!Taking a guess,but could this be the same Franz Heck who won the 1928 1000cc race at the Nürburgring?Strange that no metion of this is made if it is,but would be a big coincidence if there was another Franz Heck from Berlin racing motorbikes at the same time.This time Fritz Niss couldn't win,but only come 2nd to Otto Heinrichs and Graf Strachwitz finishing 3rd. Niss still had a good lead with 18pts,Heinrichs now on 11,Max Plambeck on 6,Graf Strachwitz on 5,Wunder 2.König and Niemeck on1 Jervis found it all a bit harder and struggled to find a way past Niels Sorensen in his heat,only managing due to a mistake by the Dane on the home straight otherwise Niels looked the likely winner.And then in the final Arthur couldn't quite make up the 4 second advantage that Kay Hansen held and so finished 2nd in front of the following Morian Hansen and Sorensen As a replacement for Jervis it was said that one of the Australian riders that brought the sport to Europe was coming to Hamburg.Steve St.George!!!! A top class rider would be arriving for the next meeting.Ignoring the fact they had his name and nationality wrong there turned out to be two problems.First he didn't turn up on time,but maybe even worse,when he did,it was found he wasn't as good as they had been led to believe!! The first Friday meeting saw a very poor crowd of around 3,000 turn up and the question was asked,'is it too much,3 meetings a week?' A reason for this might have been down to only using German and Danish riders,and not the expensive English.What it did have was a match between Germany and Denmark,at least of sorts.3 pairs from each country were graded into groups with the idea that evenly matched groups would bring very close races.So in the C group Germany had Plambeck and Wunder against Knudsen and Hoier for Denmark.Group B saw Arnold Stölting and Niemeck v Hans Bitsch and Otto Hansen.Then Group A saw Fritz Niss and Otto Heinrichs come up against Th.Clausen and the other Bitsch brother,Johannes!!! The C group at least didn't turn out quite so even as things were hoped as Einar Knudsen won all 3 followed by his partner Hoier and Max Plambeck finishing 3rd in each,but strangely it seems points were only awarded for the first 3 places,rather than 5-3-2-1,so Knudsen ended with a 15pt max,then Hoier on 9 and Plambeck with 6. In group B Germany held the upper hand winning each heat.Stölting the first two and then his partner Niemeck one and the points ended up with Stölting on 13,Niemeck with 8,H.Bitsch 5 and O.Hansen 4 The A group saw Golden Helmet leader Niss win the first heat,but in the next two he could only once finish among the points with a 3rd.Thorkild Clausen won the 2nd and 3rd heat and his partner Bitsch managed a second place in all 3 heats,so Clausen ended with 10,Bitsch with 9,Niss on 7 and Heinrichs with 4. This meeting did though see the return of Ginger Lees on track after his crash.During the break he rode 3 laps in a good time of 75.6 and looked as good as before his injury!!!1 point
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I've said this for years!..it seems SO OBVIOUS and sensible that there must be some reason we are not aware of that is stopping this happening? or is it just that those in control of speedway really ARE that thick?!! The shouty twins time and time again spout on that the track will get better after a few heats and so will the racing and for once, they are mostly correct as it generally does! so why is this not happening NOW? Would have stopped any injuries last night and also would have improved the "entertainment" on show for hundreds of meetings over the past years and given the (all too often forgotten) spectators better value for their hard earned money.1 point
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Keep going fella. Love the insults keep them coming as soon as I tell the truth people like you cant even have a sensible debate about it because you know that I'm right. You said the meeting shouldn't have started. Hans said the meeting shouldn't have started. End of story its not even debateable.1 point
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excuses coming in thick and fast now . if you dont beat one of the most un fancied trams in the championship , there is something wrong . when you do beat wucky , it will be a total surprise , womt it ? anyhow , is it not rained off yet ?1 point
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From Leicester website: There was then a unanimous decision between riders of both sides and the referee to abandon the meeting. Skipper Danny King said: “We thought the biggest problem beforehand would be the visibility. The track didn’t seem too wet when we walked it, and I don’t think anyone complained about it. “Obviously underneath it was a lot wetter but from walking on it, it seemed dry enough to race on. But it was damper than we thought, and it caught the riders out because as soon as they got to peak speed and tried to turn, none of them could.1 point
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I thought the blank dates in the summer were to avoid clashing with world cup football dates which would reduce crowds1 point
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I think if you think that, it's you that has been sniffing some dodgy stuff. Do you really think promotions can afford to continue to have these costly calloffs. Your way would seem to either blame the weather on the promotions or expect the Promoters to go ahead with a meeting on a dodgy surface, which could be dangerous to riders and would probably put many fans off because of the low standard of racing. Time for you to get a reality check.1 point
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What a load of Ill informed s**t being spoken on here....nothing changes , the track was totally suitable to start on the pits bend looked greasy compared to the first corners but all 4 riders went into the 3rd corner at full pelt which resulted in the inevitable, despite what Hans typically says in hindsight everyone was keen for the meeting to commence so keep your bull***t opinions to yourself MattFordFan you total fanny1 point
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Bloody hell what a disaster. Meeting abandoned Vaculik possible broken leg. Leicester seem to have rotten luck with their Polish riders. Get well soon Martin.1 point
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The daft thing is, not many promotion post on forums, I don't think they like the feedback much, but Barry does from Isle of Wight, and he takes it all on board and improves the fans experience and is always being praised, so maybe some promoters do need to start listening before too many fans start doing other things.1 point