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So you're an even bigger **** than we first thought with zero regard for others. Emergency services are stretched enough as it is without having to deal with idiots like you. Going 1 mile over the speed limit doesn't land you in jail. The more you post, the more of a fool you make yourself sound, or perhaps you're just after some attention and you're making it all up. Either way, it doesn't paint you very well. Now let's get back on topic with regards to the tv deal.

Tungate?

Put on a proper peak to the helmet for the first half of the meeting, instead of having the motocross ones that most have pointing slightly upwards. The sun has always been there at Lynn but don't recall big problems in the 70's and 80's. I would assume lots of riders these days don't drive their vans west to Somerset with the sun in their eyes!

From Bjerre being injured costing us against Coventry to more recent events one fact these events cant hide is over the past two seasons we have choked twice in the away leg at Monmore.

correct, the team with their name on the trophy.

What has this got to do with Swindon

You don't have to 'elevate him above all others'! He's the World Champion so he has pretty much elevated himself above all others. Isn't that what being World Champion is?! And to have him at any event will surely generate greater positivity than if he wasn't!

In 2002 saddlebow road was the home to Boston, King's Lynn stars & kids teams. To update the topic, I have just picked up a silver 1936 Dagenham speedway trophy, won by the king of the 'daggers' Frank Hodgson. It will go nicely with my original badge from the same period.

Ive heard that a one year deal is about to be signed.

He has too now - he is in BSF 'jail' for 24 hours

Please give it a rest Baldyman this thread is supposed to be about BT tv sport

Seriously this is ridiculous in a variety of sports. No one is forced to do there job as a ring girl, walk on darts girl or umbrella girl. If a lady wishes to do the job then why not let them earn some money. A couple of people who are offended, its probably no more than that, should be told to clear off and find offence elsewhere. Its getting to a time where no one can say anything about any subject in case it causes offence. .

Sorry my bad. Put this in the wrong forum. Thanks for spotting it!! Sorry did not mean to that.

"Medium-sized insectivore with protruding nasal implement." I've done "C" and "D." "Big blue wobbly thing that mermaids live in." - "C" I'm quite pleased with my definition of "dog" for "D": which is, "Not a cat."

I have to agree with some others that Jason Doyle is a great marketing addition to the Benevolent Fund meeting and my admiration for him has grown over the last few years, especially to come back from the horrific injuries of 2016, when he surely would have been World Champion without them. He now reminds me, to a degree, of the great Ivan Mauger, who came to the UK as a young man and didn't make it, so he went home and practised and came back a few years later with the determination to succeed at the highest level. Doyle has shown those characteristics since his move away from Poole and the Party Scene, realising the need to put in the hard graft. What I think is very commendable is that he rode for a few months with a broken right foot, not just in the Grand Prix and World Cup but also for his league clubs in different countries, this again reminded me of Ivan Mauger, who rode for virtually a whole season with a broken scaphoid in each hand and still fulfilled all his commitments. Ask any speedway rider how hard it is to ride with one broken scaphoid, let alone two! So, Hat Off to Jason Doyle his commitment to UK speedway and hope he has a very successful year in 2018.

Was speaking to Adam Shields at Cardiff about 9 or 10 years ago and he said his Uncle Dave still had a spin on Matt Shields track. Said Dave's black leathers with the yellow handprint on the bum still fitted him too.

THIS thread has nothing to do with Doyle riding in the Ben meeting. I was impressed by his loyalty and commitment to British speedway and the fact that he happily tells others riders they should come here and it's not about the money. It is a huge asset to have the WC racing here. How many haver done that since 2010? Not many!

Was really good to see you Bob you'll have to check on your Dad when the next one is on.

The site was supposed to have been fenced, amongst other things, as a condition of the long lease. That wasn't done, so the lease was substantially shortened which became particularly problematic when the area became desirable for redevelopment.

Anyway less of talking rubbish the junior team look strong again this year with the inclusion of Leon flint to last years all conquering side

Another reasons to start at 7.30 is if there are sun delays or there are other delays at least some racing has been run starting near on 8pm is 30 mins wasted time can’t be made up - for me if the club is serious about attracting families 7-30 start time is an absolute must .

All valid points and I'm sure Belle Vue have their fair share of shaftings in the past but to say that officialdom will ensure that you never win the play offs is a little far fetched.

I WOULD imagine that they will be the tyres supplied free of charge, as Mitas did previously. But riders can use any homologated tyre at their own expense.

Interesting development but should be viewed with a certain amount of caution as tyres have proved problematical in the past with legality of same and subsequent confusion resulting in protests and counter protests.

Hardly call it exciting....

Should've been on 6th February but not heard anything.

See our new sponsor, BTS is named, best of look to them. Hope it puts some minds at rest.

What has happened has happened and I'm not one for what if. I go along with Hyderd that the champions are the team with their name on the trophy. However, the discussion was about what might have happened if certain riders had not been injured and whether Belle Vue have choked. I don't see it as paranoia in those circumstances to point out that results could have been different if Newman and Lindgren had been excluded and if Woffinden had not been allowed to return on an average which didn't reflect his ability at the time. All valid points if you are of the opinion that those decisions were wrong.

There is no new stadium. These plans are simply designed to free-up the land that the proposed new (old) stadium was supposed to be built on for housing.

ha ha good one skidder, you not had too many dealings with bill then

Gets a brief mention in this article on Torquay United's future - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42958113 Has it ever been confirmed that someone at Swindon has actually seen these parts of the stadium in the car park in Wales?

The Play Offs should not be over 2 legs. Semi Finals should be 1 v 4 & 2 v 3 with the final being staged at the venue of the team that finished higher in the league. This would reward the team that did best in the league which ought to be the case.

Finally, a level playing field for everyone at Poole? Who would have thought that...

Depends what type of billiards you are playing...some billiards are played on tables with holes in.

8.25 was Perks' 2016 NL average. He didn't ride NL in 2017. As he hasn't got a 2017 NL average, but does have a 2017 CL average, I would assume he would have an NL average of 2 x his CL. = 10.16?

He rode one meeting i believe Steve in 1973 before his scaphoid injury the next three years were the pinnacle of his career.He averaged over 10.5 twice and a 11.15 average 74,75,76, He had a bad injury with Martin Ashby at Sheffield in 77 but he came back and always averaged between 9 .5 and 10 points a meeting if only he had put his Streety conversion away for the World Final 75/76 he had every chance great rider though.

Get on well with Giles doesn't suffer fools.

Just seen this debate for the first time so forgive me if this has already been stated, but on the plans it seems to indicate a speedway track of 320 metres.

They probably already know either way. If it was a done deal then BT Sport will want to announce it when they are ready.

Personally I think there should be an investigation as to just why Doyle was awarded the World Championship trophy when clearly his elevation was not cleared by the authority that is Hot Shoe.

The Martin Ashby, Ray Wilson race off in the British Final was the best race. Ever... great memories.

The situation that Jake Knight and numerous other riders find themselves in is 99% due to allowing riders to race for more than one team. Speedway has had absolutely no benefit from this and all it has done is reduce the number of team places available. Most people agree that the leading National League riders should be looking to move up to the next lever, but how can they if 30plus riders are now riding for two teams? Those riders who keep trying to convince us that they must have two teams "to make it pay" should stop for a moment and think of the riders such as Jake Knight etc, that they have deprived of one team place - because they have two! This situation will only get worse until or unless the BSPA see where it is leading us and have the courage to scrap doubling-up.

You really are not getting it. Doyle is the World Champion and tops a good looking line up. This meeting is a fund raiser that needs to utilise all Marketing opportunities in order to maximise interest. No need for the negativity.

makes me laugh really if he doesn't do the meeting he gets slagged off of he does the meeting he gets slagged off by you lot who wont even put your leg over a bike. Jason over the last few years has turned himself about to improve as he has done, and he is quite a nice genuine person. perhaps if others had his drive and commitment speedway would be in a better place, Just has Ben Barker love him or loath him does the ben fund every year and is also great with fans especially kids so please leave these guys alone any who put their leg over a bike and entertain us support them and perhaps things can improve .

Ever thought of a career in promotions? You seem a natural.

The great majority of riders racing in the UK are not earning big bucks in Poland and riding in the top league in Sweden. The UK is their only option to earn a living but Doyle is one of the few exceptions still prepared to commit to the UK when he can earn a very good living abroad, that's what you're missing. Most riders racing in the UK aren't in the GP's and most of those racing abroad who are in the GP's won't entertain racing in the UK but Doyle not only does but regards it as a priority, that's what you're missing. Doyle is the World Champion which makes him different to every other rider racing in the UK, that's what you're missing.

Well, you won't by stabbing Horton in the back - whether he deserves it or not. This seems to me to be major aim of some posters on here, including you.

Its not just about the 15 mins of speedway though is it.Its a night out where you can enjoy the racing but also if you are like me I meet up with my speedway friends(some I only see at speedway).Talk about all things speedway and all other thing ands have a good laugth etc and if I like I can have a drink. I went to the pub the other night spent about £15 on a few pints but that's all they gave me for my money other than a bit of background music.The enjoyment of the night was chatting and having a laugth with my friends etc= a good night out.If it was just about the booze i could have stayed in and drank the same on my own for a fraction of the cost.So what I am saying its not just the speedway its everything put together that gives me a really good night out at every speedway meeting I go to.

Just as with Woffinden, there will always be the jealous, bitter, xenophobic haters. Doyle is a rider who has grown on me tremendously over the last couple of seasons and one who certainly has achieved far more than I ever thought him capable off.

Yes. It's 1 point for a personal insult 2 if you manage to upset all the supporters of a particular team and 3 if you p!ss off the whole forum. I'll get my coat