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So you're an even bigger **** than we first thought with zero regard for others. Emergency services are stretched enough as it is without having to deal with idiots like you. Going 1 mile over the speed limit doesn't land you in jail. The more you post, the more of a fool you make yourself sound, or perhaps you're just after some attention and you're making it all up. Either way, it doesn't paint you very well. Now let's get back on topic with regards to the tv deal.

Tungate?

Put on a proper peak to the helmet for the first half of the meeting, instead of having the motocross ones that most have pointing slightly upwards. The sun has always been there at Lynn but don't recall big problems in the 70's and 80's. I would assume lots of riders these days don't drive their vans west to Somerset with the sun in their eyes!

From Bjerre being injured costing us against Coventry to more recent events one fact these events cant hide is over the past two seasons we have choked twice in the away leg at Monmore.

correct, the team with their name on the trophy.

What has this got to do with Swindon

You don't have to 'elevate him above all others'! He's the World Champion so he has pretty much elevated himself above all others. Isn't that what being World Champion is?! And to have him at any event will surely generate greater positivity than if he wasn't!

In 2002 saddlebow road was the home to Boston, King's Lynn stars & kids teams. To update the topic, I have just picked up a silver 1936 Dagenham speedway trophy, won by the king of the 'daggers' Frank Hodgson. It will go nicely with my original badge from the same period.

Ive heard that a one year deal is about to be signed.

He has too now - he is in BSF 'jail' for 24 hours

Please give it a rest Baldyman this thread is supposed to be about BT tv sport

Seriously this is ridiculous in a variety of sports. No one is forced to do there job as a ring girl, walk on darts girl or umbrella girl. If a lady wishes to do the job then why not let them earn some money. A couple of people who are offended, its probably no more than that, should be told to clear off and find offence elsewhere. Its getting to a time where no one can say anything about any subject in case it causes offence. .

Sorry my bad. Put this in the wrong forum. Thanks for spotting it!! Sorry did not mean to that.

"Medium-sized insectivore with protruding nasal implement." I've done "C" and "D." "Big blue wobbly thing that mermaids live in." - "C" I'm quite pleased with my definition of "dog" for "D": which is, "Not a cat."

I have to agree with some others that Jason Doyle is a great marketing addition to the Benevolent Fund meeting and my admiration for him has grown over the last few years, especially to come back from the horrific injuries of 2016, when he surely would have been World Champion without them. He now reminds me, to a degree, of the great Ivan Mauger, who came to the UK as a young man and didn't make it, so he went home and practised and came back a few years later with the determination to succeed at the highest level. Doyle has shown those characteristics since his move away from Poole and the Party Scene, realising the need to put in the hard graft. What I think is very commendable is that he rode for a few months with a broken right foot, not just in the Grand Prix and World Cup but also for his league clubs in different countries, this again reminded me of Ivan Mauger, who rode for virtually a whole season with a broken scaphoid in each hand and still fulfilled all his commitments. Ask any speedway rider how hard it is to ride with one broken scaphoid, let alone two! So, Hat Off to Jason Doyle his commitment to UK speedway and hope he has a very successful year in 2018.

Was speaking to Adam Shields at Cardiff about 9 or 10 years ago and he said his Uncle Dave still had a spin on Matt Shields track. Said Dave's black leathers with the yellow handprint on the bum still fitted him too.

THIS thread has nothing to do with Doyle riding in the Ben meeting. I was impressed by his loyalty and commitment to British speedway and the fact that he happily tells others riders they should come here and it's not about the money. It is a huge asset to have the WC racing here. How many haver done that since 2010? Not many!

The site was supposed to have been fenced, amongst other things, as a condition of the long lease. That wasn't done, so the lease was substantially shortened which became particularly problematic when the area became desirable for redevelopment.

According to Reg Fearman in his book the lease was 're-negotiated' during the Bill Dore/Pat Bliss era if I remember off the top of my head...good read by the way!

Anyway less of talking rubbish the junior team look strong again this year with the inclusion of Leon flint to last years all conquering side

I assumed 25th/26th for P&P Just wondering if the meet the riders night could be used as a fundraiser providing there is enough time to organise one.

No need to worry the league racing is happening in 2018 had this confirmed again today by a former colleague now at BT. He understands the delay in announcement is due to the forthcoming confirmation of whom has won the PL Football rights 2019 onwards. If BT are unsuccessful in getting what they want they will likely run an ad campaign about what other sport they still have on the channels inc Speedway.

Hardly call it exciting....

Should've been on 6th February but not heard anything.

Thanks for elevating me to a position of authority.

See our new sponsor, BTS is named, best of look to them. Hope it puts some minds at rest.

What has happened has happened and I'm not one for what if. I go along with Hyderd that the champions are the team with their name on the trophy. However, the discussion was about what might have happened if certain riders had not been injured and whether Belle Vue have choked. I don't see it as paranoia in those circumstances to point out that results could have been different if Newman and Lindgren had been excluded and if Woffinden had not been allowed to return on an average which didn't reflect his ability at the time. All valid points if you are of the opinion that those decisions were wrong.

Sounds like Fred Jacobsen is in the process of becoming a pirates asset!

ha ha good one skidder, you not had too many dealings with bill then

Can we get back on topic please, the picture shown of the fans forum could be any club in the land, not just Lakeside, every club has young and older fans, just that the older ones tend to follow their clubs closer because its more of a social thing for them where as the young and middle aged have their education and work based lifestyles which keep them busy.

Great that the track is being ripped up and relaid. Just strange that its happening now. Most tracks do it within a week or so after the final meeting of the season and let it bed in and settle over the next 6 months. I thought Linus acquitted himself very well indeed. Happy to chat, sign photos, and encouraged questions. Certainly comes across very well when interviewed. If he hits the ground running, I think Poole could be in for a very good season. Lost out in the quiz to Shovvys team when we had a dire final round. They got 24 while we only scored 9. Ended up losing by 7pts. Disaster! We had James Shanes in our team and I must admit, him and his sister are very knowledgeable. Very nice people too. Hope he has a good season. Good to see Starman make a fleeting appearance, although I didnt get to say hello. Also, very good to see and meet up with familiar faces. Havent been to a REF night for around 7 years. Excellent evening.

We always had a load of meeting's against Newport great rivals with Crump,Street,Trigg,Tebby,Mudge etc) good crowds and Newport walloped us a few times great days.

Yes, Sid, a great rider. I remember when he came to Cowley in 1974 riding for Newport and managed to smash the track record! Glad that I saw him ride at Newport (twice if I recall)...a difficult track which he graced with distinction!

He rode one meeting i believe Steve in 1973 before his scaphoid injury the next three years were the pinnacle of his career.He averaged over 10.5 twice and a 11.15 average 74,75,76, He had a bad injury with Martin Ashby at Sheffield in 77 but he came back and always averaged between 9 .5 and 10 points a meeting if only he had put his Streety conversion away for the World Final 75/76 he had every chance great rider though.

Armadale is approx 30 miles from Edinburgh though!!!!!!

Just seen this debate for the first time so forgive me if this has already been stated, but on the plans it seems to indicate a speedway track of 320 metres.

They probably already know either way. If it was a done deal then BT Sport will want to announce it when they are ready.

Mark Loram v Chris Louis 1997 British Final was as good if not better in my opinion

Personally I think there should be an investigation as to just why Doyle was awarded the World Championship trophy when clearly his elevation was not cleared by the authority that is Hot Shoe.

You might not be being negative, you're just showing a complete and utter lack of understanding of promotion. Indeed, I'm starting to think you must be a member of the BSPA!

The situation that Jake Knight and numerous other riders find themselves in is 99% due to allowing riders to race for more than one team. Speedway has had absolutely no benefit from this and all it has done is reduce the number of team places available. Most people agree that the leading National League riders should be looking to move up to the next lever, but how can they if 30plus riders are now riding for two teams? Those riders who keep trying to convince us that they must have two teams "to make it pay" should stop for a moment and think of the riders such as Jake Knight etc, that they have deprived of one team place - because they have two! This situation will only get worse until or unless the BSPA see where it is leading us and have the courage to scrap doubling-up.

I think I get what you are saying but you seems to be implying that all riders are equal because they all do the same job. While I like a good national league meeting and understand that it takes courage to race a speedway bike at any level being good at something does makes a difference. Even at NL level there will be riders you enjoy watching more than others. If you're not impressed with the world champion promoting riding in the uk then good for you but for most people sport is about appreciating talent and achievement.

You really are not getting it. Doyle is the World Champion and tops a good looking line up. This meeting is a fund raiser that needs to utilise all Marketing opportunities in order to maximise interest. No need for the negativity.

makes me laugh really if he doesn't do the meeting he gets slagged off of he does the meeting he gets slagged off by you lot who wont even put your leg over a bike. Jason over the last few years has turned himself about to improve as he has done, and he is quite a nice genuine person. perhaps if others had his drive and commitment speedway would be in a better place, Just has Ben Barker love him or loath him does the ben fund every year and is also great with fans especially kids so please leave these guys alone any who put their leg over a bike and entertain us support them and perhaps things can improve .

The great majority of riders racing in the UK are not earning big bucks in Poland and riding in the top league in Sweden. The UK is their only option to earn a living but Doyle is one of the few exceptions still prepared to commit to the UK when he can earn a very good living abroad, that's what you're missing. Most riders racing in the UK aren't in the GP's and most of those racing abroad who are in the GP's won't entertain racing in the UK but Doyle not only does but regards it as a priority, that's what you're missing. Doyle is the World Champion which makes him different to every other rider racing in the UK, that's what you're missing.

Objection sent, despite the attitude of some like D. Jones who, thankfully, is no relation.

Well, you won't by stabbing Horton in the back - whether he deserves it or not. This seems to me to be major aim of some posters on here, including you.

I like to see them show how its a suitable long term option. A one year deal isn't suitable, owner Mick Horton says it can only be a temporary measure and of course Leicester isn't a replacement for Brandon. It can't run stox for starters. If both Bees and CoventryStox wasn't running it would be a lot tougher to show the need.

Don't bother then, there are plenty of others that will. You won't be missed. This is nothing to do with Mick Horton he's just" an aside", it's a fight to save the Stadium.

Yes. It's 1 point for a personal insult 2 if you manage to upset all the supporters of a particular team and 3 if you p!ss off the whole forum. I'll get my coat