Guest Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Countries where league racing has failed: USA, New Zealand (in the original concept), Australia, South Africa, Holland (in the original concept), Italy (?). Any additions to the list please? And possible reasons for the failures. Where could it happen next? Edited December 9, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 britain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Countries where league racing has failed: USA, New Zealand (in the original concept), Australia, South Africa, Holland (in the original concept), Italy (?). Any additions to the list please? And possible reasons for the failures. Where could it happen next? britain Bruno - I assume you mean Britain as the next country where team racing will fail. The comment reminds me of the old phrase - something like this - "Many a true word is spoken in jest!" Edited December 10, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Ukraine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Countries where league racing has failed: USA, New Zealand (in the original concept), Australia, South Africa, Holland (in the original concept), Italy (?). Any additions to the list please? And possible reasons for the failures. Where could it happen next? I again pose the question: is there a long-term future for team racing in the UK or should we adopt a format similar to that which takes place in the USA at present (where there have been over the years at least two failed attempts to popularise team racing in a league format). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Countries where league racing has failed: USA, New Zealand (in the original concept), Australia, South Africa, Holland (in the original concept), Italy (?). Any additions to the list please? And possible reasons for the failures. Where could it happen next? Ukraine? So far the 'head count' for countries where league racing has failed is seven countries. To 'be naughty' we could I suppose add in Wales - i.e Cardiff and Newport? Is an eventual failure likely elsewhere one wonders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertsRacer Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 So far the 'head count' for countries where league racing has failed is seven countries. To 'be naughty' we could I suppose add in Wales - i.e Cardiff and Newport? Is an eventual failure likely elsewhere one wonders? Didn't Finland have a league once, or have they still got one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Didn't Finland have a league once, or have they still got one? I found this comment in regard to Finnish speedway in 2015: http://www.monsterenergyswc.com/news/article/4107/fast-facts-finnish-speedway LITTLE LEAGUE: While Poland, Sweden, Britain and Denmark attract riders from all over the world to race in their leagues, Finland’s SM-Liiga is a comparatively small competition, featuring five clubs. Edited June 21, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertsRacer Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I found this comment in regard to Finnish speedway in 2015: http://www.monsterenergyswc.com/news/article/4107/fast-facts-finnish-speedway LITTLE LEAGUE: While Poland, Sweden, Britain and Denmark attract riders from all over the world to race in their leagues, Finland’s SM-Liiga is a comparatively small competition, featuring five clubs. Not sure about this one, but in the 70's speedway was held in what was then Rhodesia. I have some programmes somewhere. Think there was team racing but not sure if there was a league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Not sure about this one, but in the 70's speedway was held in what was then Rhodesia. I have some programmes somewhere. Think there was team racing but not sure if there was a league. You are right HertsRacer. There was a league of sorts in Rhodesia and mentioned way down this excellent article. Obviously another add to the list of countries where league racing has failed. http://www.speedway-sa.com/resources/other_pdfs/75%20Years%2016-20.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertsRacer Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) You are right HertsRacer. There was a league of sorts in Rhodesia and mentioned way down this excellent article. Obviously another add to the list of countries where league racing has failed. http://www.speedway-sa.com/resources/other_pdfs/75%20Years%2016-20.pdf Thanks for that gustix, a wonderful read. It all comes flooding back to me now. They even feature 2 of the programmes I have. Must dig them out. Edited June 22, 2016 by HertsRacer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Countries where league racing has failed: USA, New Zealand (in the original concept), Australia, South Africa, Holland (in the original concept), Italy (?). Any additions to the list please? And possible reasons for the failures. Where could it happen next? Now added to the list to make it eight countries where league racing has failed are Rhodesia and Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Well of minor countries that had riders, I would guess: Switzerland Belgium Romania Bulgaria France Spain Yugoslavia Czechoslovakia Latvia? Edited July 3, 2016 by Joe Beevers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Well of minor countries that had riders, I would guess: Switzerland Belgium Romania Bulgaria France Spain Yugoslavia Czechoslovakia Latvia? The thread is dedicated to those countries where LEAGUE RACING HAS FAILED. You have sent an interesting list of speedway nations Joe Beevers but most of them have NOT staged league racing There was a league in Czechoslovakia when it was a united country but it is now two nations - The Czech Republic and Slovakia. I know there was league racing in the days of the 'united' country. Edited July 3, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Sorry, I was purely guessing gustrix. I had presumed League Racing did take place in all of these countries at some point as they had teams represented in the World Pairs and World Cup etc. Mind you most of them maybe like Ireland where there were few riders but no league. Hungary would be an interesting guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Sorry, I was purely guessing gustix. I had presumed League Racing did take place in all of these countries at some point as they had teams represented in the World Pairs and World Cup etc. Mind you most of them maybe like Ireland where there were few riders but no league. Hungary would be an interesting guess. There's nothing to be sorry about Joe Beevers. We are in debate and exchanging opinions to gather a larger picture of the demise of league racing in various countries. You now name Hungary - involved in speedway for many years - but I am certain has never staged league racing. I wonder where the next country to see league racing cease will be - did I hear somebody say "quite near to home'? Edited July 3, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 If i remember rightly Hungary did field a team in the lowest polish leage in the last 10 years,just like Prague had a team as well as Daugavpils from Latvia,who are the only survivors of the foreign teams Sandor Levai is listed as having raced for Honved i think,but might have just been a club like Debrecen that organised meetings and had a few challenge matches against others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Countries where league racing has failed: USA, New Zealand (in the original concept), Australia, South Africa, Holland (in the original concept), Italy (?). Any additions to the list please? And possible reasons for the failures. Where could it happen next? Now added to the list to make it eight countries where league racing has failed are Rhodesia and Ukraine. The count remains at eight - as listed in the Link posts - Joe Beevers. The yardstick for this thread is obviously where an actual league competition of home clubs has taken place in the same country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertsRacer Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) If i remember rightly Hungary did field a team in the lowest polish leage in the last 10 years,just like Prague had a team as well as Daugavpils from Latvia,who are the only survivors of the foreign teams Sandor Levai is listed as having raced for Honved i think,but might have just been a club like Debrecen that organised meetings and had a few challenge matches against others? Seeing Joe's list brought to mind another country with a long history of staging speedway, namely Austria. Did they ever stage league racing? Edited July 3, 2016 by HertsRacer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) Seeing Joe's list brought to mind another country with a long history of staging speedway, namely Austria. Did they ever stage league racing? Holland definitely in the past few years had a league of sorts.3 or 4 teams.Austria had clubs challenges(Ove Fundon amongst others riding for the Vienna club i think,but have never seen any evidence of a league Edited July 3, 2016 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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